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December 18, 2006 9:24:05 AM

Hey Pros and Bros

Last night at 2 o'clock in the morning - I was doing an important research- when I was working with and IDE my PC started to cripple until it stopped working. I restarted the machine but it just freezes on loading Windows. I am running 2 Raptors in RAID 0 on a Pentium D 930 overclocked to 4.0 Ghz with Asus P5WD prem. I reseted all the settings and currently no overclock is going on, the Intel chipset still recognizes the RAID conf but again it won't load Windows. Any ideas what to do - besides hair pulling and Christmas shopping-

I hope my work won't be gone..

Thanks

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December 18, 2006 9:59:15 AM

simple as hell:
no save = gone :-(
December 18, 2006 10:42:57 AM

Raid 0? Well, well, there is a reason people call it the Kamikaze Raid. Happend to me too, with two 40GB WD HDDs.
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December 18, 2006 10:55:06 AM

Try doing a repair install from the original Windows CD
December 18, 2006 11:20:40 AM

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Try doing a repair install from the original Windows CD


If that dont work i has a gun u can borrow :twisted:

If feel your pain. Raid 0 should have NOOO place near important research(porn).
Neither should OC tbh.

When my sis was doing her honors/doctorate this is wot i did...
1HDD, setup auto windows backup every day. EVERY DAY! U can do a lot in a day.
No incremental backup, 7 new files a week.
Weekly transfer from her hdds to one on my pc, then to xbox, just cos im super careful, then weekly transfer the latest single file to my web server just in case the house burns down :twisted:
Plus ~fortnightly backup 2 dvd.
Did that for 4 years. Now running my own business i do just about the same.

Yah its a long lecture and can be a pain in the arse, but if u really ARE doing important stuff, its worth every minute.

If u simply CANT afford to lose ne data there are data recovery apps out there, tho ive got NO idea how they work on RAID. Are the HDDs physically farked? Can try plug them in another sys see if u can pull the data. Or..... send if off for data recovery, but u will prob drop at leas $500.

Prevention is better.
December 18, 2006 11:51:02 AM

RAID 0 = double the chance of data loss due to HDD failure.

RAID 0 + no backups = you stupid f**k

Try www.spinrite.com or equivalent software for recovery. But the fact that its RAID0 makes recovery TWICE as difficult.

Software recovery by a professional (~$500).
Hardware recovery by a professional ($1000 and upwards).

Backup folks ... HDDs are cheap as shit ... if you dont backup you only have yourself to blame :evil: 
December 18, 2006 12:10:09 PM

Hello!

If you have multiple RAM sticks try testing them independently. Let me know if that works!

Good luck.



PS - Don't do RAID 0!
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December 18, 2006 12:15:14 PM

Sorry bud, think you are sol.

Next time use raid 1 or 5.
December 18, 2006 12:16:45 PM

gl with that and remember not to do raid 0 again for your mission critical computer ;) 
December 18, 2006 12:35:35 PM

I'm curious... were you doing legitimate research? Even if it was just porn as other people have suggested, why the need for 4GHz and RAID 0? Well, maybe you learned your lesson.
December 18, 2006 12:47:42 PM

If you don't have a back up on that data, then sorry for it is lost. All you can do now is reinstall the OS again on the formatted disk preferably. Then make sure to have back up on important data, especially when using raid 0 array.

Raid 0 is not really raid to start with. It should be "aid 0" not "raid" redundant array of independent disks. Raid 0 is not redundant so it should be "aid 0".
December 18, 2006 12:49:59 PM

Hum. RAID0 + screaming OC + important work + first post = we get to chase off another nooB by telling how really, REALLY, ... misguided, yeah, misguided that was.
December 18, 2006 2:03:57 PM

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Hum. RAID0 + screaming OC + important work + first post = we get to chase off another nooB by telling how really, REALLY, ... misguided, yeah, misguided that was.



Hey stop right there mister mister! This is not your average young Joe you are talking to. This is a married man -with no children yet!- who happens to write server applications. I need to have a similar development environment at home. Don't pull that noob card on me or I whip your little punk ass. Maybe I was thinking of the old Forumz when I posted here. Anyway thanks for the input guys I will try to swap the RAM modules and reinstall windows or something.

Cheers!
December 18, 2006 2:06:35 PM

Simple answer = You're screwed.
December 18, 2006 2:08:15 PM

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Hum. RAID0 + screaming OC + important work + first post = we get to chase off another nooB by telling how really, REALLY, ... misguided, yeah, misguided that was.



Hey stop right there mister mister! This is not your average young Joe you are talking to. This is a married man -with no children yet!- who happens to write server applications. I need to have a similar development environment at home. Don't pull that noob card on me or I whip your little punk ass. Maybe I was thinking of the old Forumz when I posted here. Anyway thanks for the input guys I will try to swap the RAM modules and reinstall windows or something.

Cheers!

My n00b-O-meter just went off the charts 8O
December 18, 2006 2:18:20 PM

You know there was a time before you xBox-PS3 junkies discovered toms forums. There were some knowledgeable people here.

Anyway I got it, no need to reply to this people. Thanks!
December 18, 2006 2:43:53 PM

Thank god he fixed it. I was worried I might have to join in this conversation...
-cm
December 18, 2006 2:56:54 PM

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Hum. RAID0 + screaming OC + important work + first post = we get to chase off another nooB by telling how really, REALLY, ... misguided, yeah, misguided that was.



Hey stop right there mister mister! This is not your average young Joe you are talking to. This is a married man -with no children yet!- who happens to write server applications. I need to have a similar development environment at home. Don't pull that noob card on me or I whip your little punk ass. Maybe I was thinking of the old Forumz when I posted here. Anyway thanks for the input guys I will try to swap the RAM modules and reinstall windows or something.

Cheers!

wow... I really hope your production environment isnt a RAID 0 on a severely overclocked server with no backup- as if it would make a diff at the application level, what kind of array you were running- unless its a storage application that configures RAID arrays. But then processor frequency wouldnt be a factor.

Dont know what being married has to do with your config (unless your wife built it)... but seriously, if you're doing "important research," you should AT LEAST be backing up to a USB hard drive. Which, of course would be cheaper than the bohemoth heatsink and umpteen hundred fans. Maybe she could install that for ya too! :p 
December 18, 2006 3:10:11 PM

8O 8O 8O
-cm
December 18, 2006 3:47:44 PM

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Anyway I got it


Could you please let me know what the problem was? Thanks,
December 18, 2006 7:35:55 PM

What an ungrateful (and stupid!) son of a bitch.
December 18, 2006 7:50:30 PM

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Hey stop right there mister mister! This is not your average young Joe you are talking to. This is a married man -with no children yet!- who happens to write server applications.


since your raid problem is fixed i'll just offer to help you out with your no children problem. Tell your wife I hit the back of the skillet every time. *patingg! or you can have one of mine.
December 18, 2006 8:19:10 PM

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since your raid problem is fixed i'll just offer to help you out with your no children problem. Tell your wife I hit the back of the skillet every time. *patingg! or you can have one of mine.


8O 8O 8O
That's a little too much out of line here.
December 19, 2006 1:37:55 AM

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Hey Pros and Bros

Last night at 2 o'clock in the morning - I was doing an important research- when I was working with and IDE my PC started to cripple until it stopped working. I restarted the machine but it just freezes on loading Windows. I am running 2 Raptors in RAID 0 on a Pentium D 930 overclocked to 4.0 Ghz with Asus P5WD prem. I reseted all the settings and currently no overclock is going on, the Intel chipset still recognizes the RAID conf but again it won't load Windows. Any ideas what to do - besides hair pulling and Christmas shopping-

I hope my work won't be gone..

Thanks

Boot file damaged maybe.
December 19, 2006 1:47:07 AM

Why must every simple request turn into a flame war?
December 19, 2006 5:07:58 AM

I'm familiar with Windows failures :lol: 

First thing, get a second hdd with windows on it. Put it into your computer as your Master drive and set your WD150's as slave.

Download a copy of GetDataBack (Fat32 or NTFS) from

http://www.runtime.org/

and install it onto the master drive.

Run the software, let it do its job, if it finds your files, either purchase the full version or Bitch Torrential might be a good place to look for it :wink:

I used this to recover 160GB of data from my Windoze decided to commit Seppuku in the System32 directories...

***Shame on all you people who just posted spam, flames and one liners. This guy was asking with a genuine question, not a typical "ZOMG! AMD FX60 or K0re2Duo????!?!!?! What is bestest???" thread...***
December 19, 2006 6:25:06 AM

You missed a '0'...
December 19, 2006 6:41:03 AM

That's the problem with raid 0... Its fast, but loses data even faster when it fails. Recovery options will not be cheap, so I hope it wasn't all that important.

Next time... Raid 1! Raid 1! Raid 1!

Unless it doesn't matter.

Too bad, sooo sad....

addendum: It isn't really that fast...
December 19, 2006 7:23:06 AM

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Hey stop right there mister mister! This is not your average young Joe you are talking to. This is a married man -with no children yet!- who happens to write server applications. I need to have a similar development environment at home. Don't pull that noob card on me or I whip your little punk ass. Maybe I was thinking of the old Forumz when I posted here. Anyway thanks for the input guys I will try to swap the RAM modules and reinstall windows or something.

Cheers!


wow... I really hope your production environment isnt a RAID 0 on a severely overclocked server with no backup- as if it would make a diff at the application level, what kind of array you were running- unless its a storage application that configures RAID arrays. But then processor frequency wouldnt be a factor.

Dont know what being married has to do with your config (unless your wife built it)... but seriously, if you're doing "important research," you should AT LEAST be backing up to a USB hard drive. Which, of course would be cheaper than the bohemoth heatsink and umpteen hundred fans. Maybe she could install that for ya too! :p 

Remember, post count does not a noob make, (has anyone else seen an un-named posters claim that CPU fans blow *away* from the chip?), but since he wants to go personal...

He writes *server* applications, not only is he software but he's got a network engineer to blame for everything. Has to have a "similar" enviroment at home that the company doesn't provide for him so he probably couldn't hack a quik an drty kludg on a PalmIII from a truckstop in Billings, MT to save his ass. Is married with no children, that's like, like overclocking a RAID0 with no backup. Sooner or later it's gonna blow something and you're not the one having fun. BTW: I love my RAID0 and my server that has a weekly ghost image of every system in the house on it.

And my ass is tight. Not little, not scrawny, not narrow. Tight.
December 19, 2006 7:39:05 AM

Quote:
I'm familiar with Windows failures :lol: 

First thing, get a second hdd with windows on it. Put it into your computer as your Master drive and set your WD150's as slave.

Download a copy of GetDataBack (Fat32 or NTFS) from

http://www.runtime.org/

and install it onto the master drive.

Run the software, let it do its job, if it finds your files, either purchase the full version or Bitch Torrential might be a good place to look for it :wink:

I used this to recover 160GB of data from my Windoze decided to commit Seppuku in the System32 directories...

***Shame on all you people who just posted spam, flames and one liners. This guy was asking with a genuine question, not a typical "ZOMG! AMD FX60 or K0re2Duo????!?!!?! What is bestest???" thread...***



or u may also try this :Quetek File Scavenger v3.0.1 from their site.

google the site.

and u already know what to do with a demo software..

but mine's rrecovering data greatly..

at last after trying others..

:lol: 
December 19, 2006 2:58:56 PM

what i want to know is who hired that idiot IT manager who was stupid enough to run raid 0 on busniess machines. That dude needs to be fired big time.
December 19, 2006 4:43:11 PM

Why must every simple request turn into a flame war?
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