4700 Windows Mobile Version

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Andy Mulhearn wrote:

> I've seen debates, or think I have, where people are bemoaning the lack
> of a Windows 2003 SE upgrade for the HP 4700.
>
> I've checked my OS version in About and it clearly states it's running
> Windows Mobile 2003 Second edition.
>
> Did I misread something or is there another upgrade my Ipaq is missing?
>

Yes, wrong debate. All HX4700s have Windows 2003 SE. And it isn't an
upgrade.

They are bemoaing, very probably, the lack of VGA support.

Nikki

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Hmm, Well HP has decided not to offer an upgrade so far, the newest versions
of WindowsMobile have Windows Media Player 10 the Windows Mobile SE on the
4705 does not have Windows Media Player 10. Also their are problems with
having both the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth enabled at the same time, while also
having additional today screen plug ins enabled, or running additional input
methods. For "power users" their are real memory limits imposed by the
current hx4700 rom.

--
David Hettel
Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices

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"Andy Mulhearn" <mully@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I've seen debates, or think I have, where people are bemoaning the lack of
> a Windows 2003 SE upgrade for the HP 4700.
>
> I've checked my OS version in About and it clearly states it's running
> Windows Mobile 2003 Second edition.
>
> Did I misread something or is there another upgrade my Ipaq is missing?
>
> Andy

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Yes, there is a sub part of memory reserved for drivers and today screen
plug-ins. So if you add nothing to your today screen, and do not add extra
keyboards you may have no problems with the memory on the hx4705.

If on the other hand you like a lot of today screen plug-ins. And you also
add additional keyboards, it is relative easy to run out of "driver" memory
while still having free memory. That means you will be unable to use both
Bluetooth, and Wi-Fi or perhaps either.

Enabling HP ProtectTools can also cause problems, where again if you have a
few extra today screen programs running, and you happen to have the Wi-Fi
radio turn on, or the Bluetooth radio turn on, you may not be able to
complete a soft reset. The 4705 will basically hang when trying to soft
reset. This may force a hard reset.

Even adding more internal memory, say 128 MB will not solve this problem, it
is the same problem that the 545X and 555X had when they where first
released. IMHO.
--
David Hettel
Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices

This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
You assume all risks for your use.

Handhelds, mobile: http://www.geekzone.co.nz
Bluetooth guides: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=449

"Nikki Casali" <nikki@ncSasPali.deAmoMn.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> David Hettel MS MVP - Mobile Devices wrote:
>
>> For "power users" their are real memory limits imposed by the current
>> hx4700 rom.
>
> I would have presumed that the "real memory limits" would be imposed by
> the actual amount of physical free RAM? There are further limits?
>
> Nikki
>

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It's not exclusively an HP issue. My Dell X50c, with the 128M upgrade
suffers from thr same driver space limitation. It is rare for me to be able
to fire up BT or WiFi without having to soft reset first.

--
Sven
MS-MVP Mobile Devices
"David Hettel MS MVP - Mobile Devices" <dhettel@fuse.net> wrote in message
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> Yes, there is a sub part of memory reserved for drivers and today screen
> plug-ins. So if you add nothing to your today screen, and do not add extra
> keyboards you may have no problems with the memory on the hx4705.
>
> If on the other hand you like a lot of today screen plug-ins. And you also
> add additional keyboards, it is relative easy to run out of "driver"
> memory while still having free memory. That means you will be unable to
> use both Bluetooth, and Wi-Fi or perhaps either.
>
> Enabling HP ProtectTools can also cause problems, where again if you have
> a few extra today screen programs running, and you happen to have the
> Wi-Fi radio turn on, or the Bluetooth radio turn on, you may not be able
> to complete a soft reset. The 4705 will basically hang when trying to soft
> reset. This may force a hard reset.
>
> Even adding more internal memory, say 128 MB will not solve this problem,
> it is the same problem that the 545X and 555X had when they where first
> released. IMHO.
> --
> David Hettel
> Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
>
> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> You assume all risks for your use.
>
> Handhelds, mobile: http://www.geekzone.co.nz
> Bluetooth guides: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=449
>
> "Nikki Casali" <nikki@ncSasPali.deAmoMn.co.uk> wrote in message
> news1mrj2$24q$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
>>
>>
>> David Hettel MS MVP - Mobile Devices wrote:
>>
>>> For "power users" their are real memory limits imposed by the current
>>> hx4700 rom.
>>
>> I would have presumed that the "real memory limits" would be imposed by
>> the actual amount of physical free RAM? There are further limits?
>>
>> Nikki
>>
>
>