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Any suggestions on a mutually entertaining way to get yourself sacked from a job? I need to get the boot but can't have it on the grounds of gross professional misconduct as that would leave me in the same situation as quiting. Simply put I need to give them a great big fat excuse to not continue my probation period at work. I've given it a month now and can honestly say I fcuked up badly when I took that job :( time to cut my losses and run.

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Don't get the sack. If you do you'll just be a worthless scrounging bum. You need to work, your happiness and mental health don't matter. Stepping stone, something will come up, try to think of a way to turn the situation around and other such bollocks.[/SS]

Seriously, I suggest you have a discrete word with whatever of your line managers you think will be receptive to the idea. Failing that, pull a sickie for two months and then offer them the same deal. ;)

Reply to Tom_Smart

and here i was away to say he should try it on with his boss.

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Reply to Strangestranger

Ah, quitting a job to live off the system until something else comes along....

Why not stick to the job and keep trying for another one? I'm sure we've been over this already... but if you quit this job, new employers are going to wonder why you only lasted a short time at the job, which ultimately will not look good for you getting hired at the next job.

------------------------------ "Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only one you can get yelled at for having. Goddammit Otto, you are an alcoholic. Goddammit Otto, you have Lupus... one of those two doesn't sound right." M. H.
Reply to Riser

oh ffs, i'm agreeing with riser. normally i would disagree but that would mean agreeing with tom, not sure which is the lesser evil so i'll stick to my own views regardless of who shares them.

------------------------------ I'm a git, deal with it.

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Reply to Strangestranger

It's not like he has kids to think about, if he's unhappy he should get the fcuk out. He knows all about the hardships he'll face if he's unemployed again. Do you really think he's, even for a Manc, that stupid that he hasn't already given this a great deal of thought? He's only had the job for a month, he won't have to mention it on his CV if he wishes not to. He'll have a slightly longer period of unemployment to explain away, no biggie.

He leaves. Worse case scenario, he's unemployed for too long and ends up back in the same situation again through desperation.

He stays. Worse case scenario, he becomes manically depressed, takes a sub machine gun into work and offs a fcuk load of his colleagues before topping himself.

Actually I think he should stay. ;)

Reply to Tom_Smart

No intentions of living of the system, I'd just like the fallback position there if I needed it. The problem is that if I stay any longer I will need to stay another 6 to 11 months to make any sense of it in removing the fears of a potential new employer. I'd sure as hell not be the first to walk on them, I've heard tale of three people doing it before I arived. If I leave now I just lie about what I've been doing this year to date. Temping is a good general cover and I could even claim the present job was just a two month contract...

The problem I have is that the job leaves me with zero minutes free to so much as talk to agencies or the like. Throw on 3hrs a day of traveling on public transport and my life has become somewhat chaotic. Time off for interviews will also be problimatic as I've been told I can have no holidays whilst in probation period which means another two months before I can have a day off for interview.

I've considered the sick option. The trouble with that option is that I only get SSP which is less than the dole and with no housing benefit to boot. I do not have a problem in defending my choices, if somebody asks I'll be honest and say that whilst on probation I decided the job was not for me.

I need away from the helpdesk and from the phones. The chaotic nature of a truly dynamic workload make it imposible for me to manage my time and deliver the quality of service that I feel compelled to give. At interview it was sold as a high quality customer focused operation, reality is that we sell them crap and make them wait for answers. Maybe it is a personal failing. If so I have no great problems with that as part of my nature. I've grafted my arse off in every job I've had. You will note that I never post here on company time.

Reply to audiovoodoo

@Tom - Did you see panoram tonight by any chance? Guess I know where to get the sub machine gun now ;)

Reply to audiovoodoo

Never seen it. I'll be surprised if they are any easier to get than I already know of.

Reply to Tom_Smart

Working at a sh*tty job isn't exactly bad as it seems. While it sucks while you do it, you can take the time to learn how to not do that job. It sucks.. take time to figure out what sucks about it, what doesn't suck, what can improve, how things can improve, etc. Yeah, you could look at it and in 5 minutes come up with the solutions.. but first you need to really figure out why the workplace ended up like that in the first place. You can say the manager is an arsehole, but why?
So the job suckis.. the next job you get could be worse, could be better.. but if your job sucks now, get used to it so when you get that better job, it'll have more of an impact.

You said you wanted to get into the field again and get caught up. Use it as a stepping stone and if you screw up, you really don't care. If you have to ask stupid questions, ask.. Abuse the place and find out what you need to know, pry a little.

Not saying you're aiming at this but too often people walk into a job, think it sucks and quit. As someone who interviews and hires, if someone even remotely mentioned that, I wouldn't hire them. Why would I want to hire someone who doesn't want to help fix things or someone who doesn't want to stick around if things are bad?

Is there any potential there to make a change and move on up higher to make the changes you think need to be done? Might not be.. but could be.

Might as well stick it out at the sh*tty job so you can learn what it good and what isn't.. 1 month in is a really short time to find out if you like a tech job. The going rate on job changes is 6 months to really know if you like the job or not. Most people tend to not like a new job because of Change.. but after 6 months change their view. Next, it takes about 2 years to really get comfortable in a technical position before you can really start offering adequate and well researched change at a job.

Aside from that, welcome back to the working life of not having as much time. Again, a month is a short time to adjust.

Did you drop the money on the new computer? Seemed like last week you were fairly happy about the job and all that.. now you're down about it? Its too soon to really figure it out.. Why not wait it out another 2 months and see if you get a raise or offered something else for job performance?

------------------------------ "Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only one you can get yelled at for having. Goddammit Otto, you are an alcoholic. Goddammit Otto, you have Lupus... one of those two doesn't sound right." M. H.
Reply to Riser

It was a special on gun crime in Liverpool. Quite telling that a few of the old school gangsters they were interviewing were actually scared of the kids nowadays.

Edit - Might also have helped if I'd typed 'Panorama' in the above post.

Reply to audiovoodoo

Move to the US for a tech job:
http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/career-ar [...] bs_are-435

And don't do all the stupid conversions on the money. Making $40k here is the same as making your 40 pounds over there. COLA resolves that issue.

------------------------------ "Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only one you can get yelled at for having. Goddammit Otto, you are an alcoholic. Goddammit Otto, you have Lupus... one of those two doesn't sound right." M. H.
Reply to Riser

By all means quit as long as you're prepared to face the consequences of your actions.

Reply to Anoobis

ach you see AV, what i think doesn't matter, when you were laid off i thought it was a good idea you take your time and get something you actually want to do, however, i do not agree with quitting a job, what you think is what's important but a job is a job.

------------------------------ I'm a git, deal with it.

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Reply to Strangestranger

Have a punch up in the lunch room.

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Reply to zpyrd

While at work $hit your pants and ask everyone what the smell is.
Works best if you have the runs.

------------------------------ Doctor Hooter
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Reply to zpyrd

Hey super chimp...I'm not poking hurtful fun at you about doing silly things to get fired from your job.
You have to do what is right for you. Do what feels right.
I understand how it can be difficult to find a new job while working at a job that you don't like and the job you don't like doesn't allow you free time to search for the job you want.
It seems like you have some difficult choices to make. I wish you the best of luck and I hope all works well in your favour.

------------------------------ Doctor Hooter
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Reply to zpyrd

When is the wedding?

Reply to Tom_Smart

I don't know.
I missed the engagement party.

------------------------------ Doctor Hooter
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Reply to zpyrd

Find something they're doing that's a bit dodgy.

Then arrange a discreet meeting with HR and ask who the firm's MLRO is, as you feel compelled to make a report under POCA (Proceeds of Crime Act).

If you're still on probation they'll either fire your ass or try to buy you off.

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Reply to llama_man

He could try preaching some obscure religon, like cristianity.

------------------------------ I'm a git, deal with it.

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Reply to Strangestranger

Strangestranger wrote :

He could try preaching some obscure religon, like cristianity.


That is pretty obscure. Is it anything like Christianity?

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Reply to llama_man

No, if it was I would have said christianity now wouldn't I.

P.S Did i cover that up? That was about my (insert massive number) mistake of the day.

------------------------------ I'm a git, deal with it.

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Reply to Strangestranger

No, your cunning plan was spoiled by your complete inability to punctuate properly. We just assume your spelling errors are f*ck-ups too.

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Reply to llama_man

Still, we should be thankful that it's midday and you're not already face-down in a puddle of vomit like most of your countrymen.

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Reply to llama_man

Fcuking foreigners, can't handle their drink.

Reply to Tom_Smart

POCA? You mean the initiative tax?

Reply to Tom_Smart

Claim sexual harassment by a higher up female.. nothing they can do to prove against it and they'll be more than likely to buy you out to shut you up.

------------------------------ "Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only one you can get yelled at for having. Goddammit Otto, you are an alcoholic. Goddammit Otto, you have Lupus... one of those two doesn't sound right." M. H.
Reply to Riser

prob if he is an ugly fcuker tho ...

------------------------------ Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds

 

Reply to reynod

Umm...most of us have been in such a situation before AV. Once, before i got my degree and had dropped out, i went into work as a dishwasher at a greek restaurent. You would not beleive the piled up mess they had in that back kitchen! I filled up the sink and began to attack the mountain of greassy pots and pans and then after 30 min i came to the realisation that it was too much. I didn't know at the time but i was at "the bottom of the barrel".

If you feel your job is the bottom of the barrel, then get outta there! However, Go have a look at the dishwasher at your local restaurent first.

Reply to pike

I know 10 year olds who know dishwashers are the bottom of the barrel at the restaurant. The Busers have higher status because they're seen by the diners.

------------------------------ "Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only one you can get yelled at for having. Goddammit Otto, you are an alcoholic. Goddammit Otto, you have Lupus... one of those two doesn't sound right." M. H.
Reply to Riser

Unless you're a head chef in the kitchen, anybody who works in the kitchen is at the bottom of the barrel.

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You know what ole Jack Burton says at a time like this? Ole Jack says...what the hell[/Jack Burton]

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Reply to Anoobis

Tom_Smart wrote :

Fcuking foreigners, can't handle their drink.



Some of us can, and do.

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Reply to KingLoftusXII

There are notable exceptions.

Reply to Tom_Smart

Friday night, about 9ish EST look west, as you may spot my party from there.

*grabs lighter and whiskey*

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Reply to KingLoftusXII

I shall look east, but there's mountains in the way. Make sure they go high!

------------------------------ No more promise no more sorrow,
No longer will I follow.
Can anybody hear me?
I just want to be me.
Reply to JustPlainJef

Audio tell them at work you can't handle the stress of dealing with angry people on the helpdesk.

At the very least they will temporarily move you and you might get course to go on.

Try to get some training out of the job.

Always look at what you can learn from the experience.

I started out as an apprentice ... now I run heaps of training programs ... people etc.

It is nice when you have a job that pays well and you enjoy.

Apply for something else then move

------------------------------ Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds

 

Reply to reynod

JustPlainJef wrote :

I shall look east, but there's mountains in the way. Make sure they go high!




Given the earths rotation, there's a possibility some may land in your backyard. I'll do my best. I can live with higher gas prices, but fireworks have gotten insane. Nearly $300 more spent this year for our usual. Chinese pricks.

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Reply to KingLoftusXII

Odd...I thought firework prices were more reasonable. I bought a few this year for the first time in ten years and I noticed I got more bang for my buck.

------------------------------ Doctor Hooter
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Reply to zpyrd

Bang for buck. Pun intended?

Reply to Vokofpolisiekar

Of course.

------------------------------ Doctor Hooter
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Reply to zpyrd

Fireworks are more fun when you make your own.

Although last Guy Fawkes' the neighbours moved away within the week. Rapidly. I think it had something to do with the blazing tree with the exploding trunk.

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Reply to mugz

After I had a brain storm in using fire works like paintball gun's I've had a rapid decline in friends.

Reply to Vokofpolisiekar

The actual backstory is as follows: the tree got in the way of my view of the local mountains in the evening, so I plotted its destruction. The only thing needed was to do it on a night when fireworks were going off all over the place.

It looked accidental, in the same way that a car that spontaneously explodes while in a traffic jam looks accidental.

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Reply to mugz

I once had the priviledge of watching a bunch of rednecks attempt to blow themselves up. They filled beach balls with acetelyne, attaching a wick, lighting, and watching from about 20 feet away.

------------------------------ "Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only one you can get yelled at for having. Goddammit Otto, you are an alcoholic. Goddammit Otto, you have Lupus... one of those two doesn't sound right." M. H.
Reply to Riser

Riser wrote :

I once had the priviledge of watching a bunch of hippies attempt to blow themselves up. They filled beach balls with acetelyne, attaching a wick, lighting, and watching from about 20 feet away.



Fixed.


Message edited by Vokofpolisiekar on 07-03-2008 at 04:28:06 PM
Reply to Vokofpolisiekar

Why were you at RC's house anyway?

And that "wick" was RC's legs, by the way. [/obvious]


Message edited by llama_man on 07-03-2008 at 06:52:17 PM
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Reply to llama_man

I ended up there because my friend's cousin was there with his girlfriend... it was her family's event or something. We went over to get him the hell out of there and go drink beer somewhere else.

------------------------------ "Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only one you can get yelled at for having. Goddammit Otto, you are an alcoholic. Goddammit Otto, you have Lupus... one of those two doesn't sound right." M. H.
Reply to Riser

Riser wrote :

I ended up there because my friend's cousin was there with his girlfriend, his cousin's sister and brother...




And there were still only two of them, right?

Reply to Tom_Smart

There have been some developments....

Yesterday I had a bit of a chat with a couple of managers explaining that the situation was critical and that the lack of staff on help desk was really causing a problem. I really laid it on the line with my boss and told him that my job was almost untenable. At the moment any calls that we don't pick up go on an office wide pick-up group. The volume of calls has actually caused a backlog in invoicing and dispatch to the point where senior management are asking why the cash flow is down. I told them we need more staff and a call automation system to manage the inbound calls. It would also let us get some proper stats on volumes etc and start the trend analysis and performance monitoring.

This morning my boss comes over and tells me that he has just been told that he can have another three help desk staff and that they are now looking for a call management system. A little later on he came out for a walk at lunch and started to sound me out on how I would feel about being an assistant manager on the team. The role does not exist yet but will once the new staff come. The conversation was very much it's mine for the taking if I can commit to it. Not a done deal though by any measure.

It's a very strange situation. Part of me thinks this could be my door into management and the rich rewards of money, hair loss and bad clothes. Part of me says it's going to be a shedload of work and take me away from the tech side. I have mixed feeling on that bit alone, let alone the whole idea of digging in for a couple of years to gain that all so needed experience.

Confused, flattered and lost all in one day. I've not got a clue how to move on this one. We're still getting smashed with calls and queries and I'm still half dead by the time I get in from work. Do I really want more stress in my life? I know I want more money but not at the price of my head.


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