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Re: G80 Vista driver NOT coming in December
Well, Lets See.

I bought an 8800 GTS card via an online vendor, and have now decided to dispute the purchase with my credit card company because of the 'no return' policy. The card still is not what it claims to be, and still does not offer Vista support. That, along with the lack of legitimate explanations for missing beta drivers less than 1 month and 1 week from Vista scares me.

Nobody realizes the bad thing about lack of G80 Vista driver support at this stage-

G80 DOES NOT WORK WITH VISTA !!!

Nvidia is more worried about letting the public see/hear about how messed up the drivers are this close to 'official release', because it makes a stronger case that they are guilty of false advertising, as well as misrepresenting their product - Direct X 10 Capable, Vista recommended (really, how? when? in which country?) They should have labled their marketing materials 'VISTA READY we hope

It is not ready. Otherwise, there would be a Beta driver available. Notice how there are no disclaimers anywhere, and no dialogue regarding the status of the drivers. They are claiming that G80 Vista compatibility comes INTO EFFECT on the public release of Vista. NONSENSE ! What they mean is, they are screwed, and are having a hard time making something work. They should say they decided not to let the public experience how bad their expensive product works with Vista until they HAVE to.

Nvidia is trying to bulldoze over the inconvenient fact that they have serious trouble on their hands for false advertising.

This is really a pathetic PR disaster. Nvidia is smart by keeping their mouths shut, as they don't have anything they coud possibly make things better. I hope they have a functional Beta ready by Jan 30. People be happy if they can play hard without crashes, glitches etc. And they will also be happy for basic Vista functionality (beyond, say, being able to increase desktop resolution).

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ummm yeah....

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You poor thing. I think a lawsuit is in order.

Funny thing is you keep spouting this same crap in a few threads now and even provided a link to nvidia's forum about this. I see a lot of whining there, but this post pretty much summed it up:

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Secondly

You cannot build a Driver while a an OS is Beta or RC as there are still changes being made to the core which can in the end, effect the driver, causing a conflict of some form.

lastly im not really worried that you can't play games.. thats not nvidia's fault, thats your own fault for expecting to much as you early adopters do.

the OS was released to Businesses and MSDN officially, not for game play, for business and development usage, im sorry if you got a copy becoz you submitted a bug, but this is microsofts fault here for letting you have the OS before it had decent support by anyone.

Nvidia has not stated it will release a driver next week, that is the inquirer.. as usual.

Nvidia never puts a release date on its drivers, they will be done when they are done, so don't get your hopes up, becoz there is every chance you will be disappointed.

at the moment it seems the Inq is trying to make Nvidia look bad.

and btw, Buggy drivers can burn your graphics card out, i saw it happen on the Forceware 60 beta's on about 20 cards with one of the beta's.

its not just that though, to be able to install these video drivres on Vistax64, they MUST be driver signed as WHQL certification is mandatory in Vistax64 so this will push back a Vista driver release even further.

onw for the love of god, drop the subject,.. stop with the speculation

Brian has posted that info on the Vista drivers, emails has been sent out and apparently a guy that was banned from here recently got in touch with on of the Nvidia tech engineers who will be raising the whole Vista Ready labelling and marketting problem up.....

its time to
a. get a girlfriend
b. go and take a walk.
or c. go to the beach and relax. while your waiting the next few weeks for the drivers.. go get some exercise, so when the card is ready, you won't have a heartattach becoz of the sheer power of the G80


The bolded parts are done by me, and it's post #49 on this page:
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php [...] 3399&st=40

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Re: G80 Vista driver NOT coming in December
Well, Lets See.

I bought an 8800 GTS card via an online vendor, and have now decided to dispute the purchase with my credit card company because of the 'no return' policy. The card still is not what it claims to be, and still does not offer Vista support. That, along with the lack of legitimate explanations for missing beta drivers less than 1 month and 1 week from Vista scares me.

Nobody realizes the bad thing about lack of G80 Vista driver support at this stage-

G80 DOES NOT WORK WITH VISTA !!!

Nvidia is more worried about letting the public see/hear about how messed up the drivers are this close to 'official release', because it makes a stronger case that they are guilty of false advertising, as well as misrepresenting their product - Direct X 10 Capable, Vista recommended (really, how? when? in which country?) They should have labled their marketing materials 'VISTA READY we hope

It is not ready. Otherwise, there would be a Beta driver available. Notice how there are no disclaimers anywhere, and no dialogue regarding the status of the drivers. They are claiming that G80 Vista compatibility comes INTO EFFECT on the public release of Vista. NONSENSE ! What they mean is, they are screwed, and are having a hard time making something work. They should say they decided not to let the public experience how bad their expensive product works with Vista until they HAVE to.

Nvidia is trying to bulldoze over the inconvenient fact that they have serious trouble on their hands for false advertising.

This is really a pathetic PR disaster. Nvidia is smart by keeping their mouths shut, as they don't have anything they coud possibly make things better. I hope they have a functional Beta ready by Jan 30. People be happy if they can play hard without crashes, glitches etc. And they will also be happy for basic Vista functionality (beyond, say, being able to increase desktop resolution).



Dude STFU. This is the way it is when you are an early adopter, I have a G80 myself and was fully aware how things would be for a while.

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Hi,

Please go step in front of a city bus. Thanks,

-mpjesse

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Hi,

Please go step in front of a city bus. Thanks,

-mpjesse


I remember you telling that one already. :twisted:

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Re: G80 Vista driver NOT coming in December
Well, Lets See.

I bought an 8800 GTS card via an online vendor, and have now decided to dispute the purchase with my credit card company because of the 'no return' policy. The card still is not what it claims to be, and still does not offer Vista support. That, along with the lack of legitimate explanations for missing beta drivers less than 1 month and 1 week from Vista scares me.

Nobody realizes the bad thing about lack of G80 Vista driver support at this stage-

G80 DOES NOT WORK WITH VISTA !!!

Nvidia is more worried about letting the public see/hear about how messed up the drivers are this close to 'official release', because it makes a stronger case that they are guilty of false advertising, as well as misrepresenting their product - Direct X 10 Capable, Vista recommended (really, how? when? in which country?) They should have labled their marketing materials 'VISTA READY we hope

It is not ready. Otherwise, there would be a Beta driver available. Notice how there are no disclaimers anywhere, and no dialogue regarding the status of the drivers. They are claiming that G80 Vista compatibility comes INTO EFFECT on the public release of Vista. NONSENSE ! What they mean is, they are screwed, and are having a hard time making something work. They should say they decided not to let the public experience how bad their expensive product works with Vista until they HAVE to.

Nvidia is trying to bulldoze over the inconvenient fact that they have serious trouble on their hands for false advertising.

This is really a pathetic PR disaster. Nvidia is smart by keeping their mouths shut, as they don't have anything they coud possibly make things better. I hope they have a functional Beta ready by Jan 30. People be happy if they can play hard without crashes, glitches etc. And they will also be happy for basic Vista functionality (beyond, say, being able to increase desktop resolution).




You know, it doesn't help your argument to have such a poorly written post.

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Yes, but I really like that one!

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Personally I've never rushed out and bought a new OS as soon as it comes out anyway.

Let someone else find out the bugs and incompatability isssue's for you.
Then when the service packs and updates come out you benefit form someone else's bad experience.

Same can be applied to device drivers, Wait its not like they will never make a vista driver for your card, Stay with XP for a bit longer, Problem solved.

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Hi,

Please go step in front of a city bus. Thanks,

-mpjesse


Such a nice young man[/old lady]

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Didn't Mommy and Daddy show you enough attention when you were a child? [/fullmetaljacket]

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The new graphics card you bought doesn't work with an OS that is not officially released yet? OMG! Call teh WHAAAAMBULANCE!

Seriously though, the Vista drivers are all BETA, by using the beta you are doing testing, not using a real product that comes with anything you have a legal foot to stand on. Even on a retail product you barely have a legal foot to stand on either due to EULA crap.

And its not the retailer's fault for the card not working, getting on their case just brings them more grief, though I seriously doubt the credit card company is going to do anything about it since your complaint has to do with a BETA software package not even out.

The Vista READY and Vista compatible programs are a series of tests that EVERY hardware manufacturer must do in order to use the logos. Having chatted up some MS employees regarding this, our business learned what all that entails. Its a LOT of work, and would require it in a far more up to date state than you claim it to be.

If your beef is with you using RC1, and nvidia's drivers are meant for RC2 (which was what I had experienced trying an nvidia card on vista before), the RC1 compatible drivers were still downloadable, just not the most recent. Again, these are all BETA, meaning you are using them at YOUR OWN RISK, you have no recourse for things not working as you yourself expect them to work.

The proper analogy is moving into a building that is not yet finished, you can move in your high expensive refrigerator, TV, or Server farm.. but if the wiring and security setup is not fully done, you have no recourse if something bad happens.

Seriously, deal with it and wait for vista to be released. If you're so hot for windows vista or other products so early go get a job with microsoft and do your part to make their products get finished faster. Either that or get a job with Nvidia and write drivers, the guy I know was looking for experienced programmers.

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Lol... if G80 doesn't work with vista, do you even realize how much of a deep shit Nvidia is going to be in?

Vista is not out yet, so don't comment on G80 working or not working with it. But if it is vista ready and dx10 compliant, there is no way it won't work with stable releases of drivers etc.

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Boo frickity hoo

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Yes, but I really like that one!


ok then. :lol:

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The new graphics card you bought doesn't work with an OS that is not officially released yet? OMG! Call teh WHAAAAMBULANCE!

Seriously though, the Vista drivers are all BETA, by using the beta you are doing testing, not using a real product that comes with anything you have a legal foot to stand on. Even on a retail product you barely have a legal foot to stand on either due to EULA crap.



Seconded!

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Personally I've never rushed out and bought a new OS as soon as it comes out anyway.

Let someone else find out the bugs and incompatability isssue's for you.
Then when the service packs and updates come out you benefit form someone else's bad experience.

Same can be applied to device drivers, Wait its not like they will never make a vista driver for your card, Stay with XP for a bit longer, Problem solved.



And again, Seconded!

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G80 Vista driver NOT coming in December



Hmm... let's see OMG, Vista is NOT coming in December either! What a surprise! Seriously... think before you speak. It's people like you that we at the forum just... well... yeah... "dislike"

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Lol this thread is funny, i got a 8800GTS because it runs DX9 games so awesome who cares about vista? everyone who is somewhat smart enough uses XP, UNLESS, your beta testing Vista, even then beta testing vista shouldnt including playing video games when DX10 doesnt even come with the beta.

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i got a 8800GTS because it runs DX9 games so awesome who cares about vista? everyone who is somewhat smart enough uses XP, UNLESS, your beta testing Vista, even then beta testing vista shouldnt including playing video games when DX10 doesnt even come with the beta.



I guess he's never heard of dual-boot. Genius. I'd say he deserves atleast 8 pages of flaming.

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