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Are overclockers nuts? Don't they mind jetengine pc sound??

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December 20, 2006 9:47:32 PM

Jut wondering if there is somebody out there with an Asus P5W DH Deluxe overclocking an E6600 with memory timings cl4-4-4-12? I wonder how much sound your system produces when you overclock it too 3 ghz. I'm asking this because my dad bought a very very quiet setup on my advise. Asus P5W DH Deluxe/E6600/Artic Cooling Fan Pro 7/G.e.i.l DDR2 800 cl4-4-4-12 everything build in a Antec P150 casing. It just runs perfectly silent. More silent then this is impossible as when I pushed the power on button I thought the fans were malfunctioning but they were not.....it is the most quiet setup I ever (heared). OK but now here it comes....I had to ignore this cpu error fan message on startup in the bios...that was one thing I was not happy with. I just put the rpm on ignore. The second when I push the cpu to 3 ghz.....yes 3 ghz only for a super overclockable system that should be able to run 3.5 ghz air cooled with this setup and this cpu fan starts to make the sound of an old pc with rusted fans at 2600 to 2800 rpm for what?. It's totally insane while the idle temps are still below 40 degrees that it blows this hard. Has Asus made a big mistake? Or should we all stick to our stock coolers? Talking about stock coolers...I've even read that guys that own stock cooled cpu's are talking about the same problem. They all connected the fan to the right cpu connector. Will this be ever fixed in bios updates or not? If not, this will be the last time my dad and me bought an Asus motherboard.
December 21, 2006 4:58:02 AM

i know what your talking about, alot of fans (lets say artic cooling for example) that are made to run quietly, only run quietly at a certain speed, and they should not be slowed down by BIOS settings, i know mine dont like to do so, and they start sounding like a Mil Hind landing if i dont run them at full speed (otherwise they are rather quiet).
December 21, 2006 5:43:03 AM

I love the sound of my rig firing up in the morning. I couldn't sleep with it on though because it lights up my room too much.
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December 21, 2006 7:56:20 AM

Lol, well, the lights are okay...it's almost Christmas anyway :D 
December 21, 2006 8:44:02 AM

What? My tuniq tower makes barely any noise whatsoever... while sitting on a 3.76GHZ 1.55V OC'd Pentium D 805 ... In summer
Unless I put a load on it, at which point it gets loud. By by load i mean either video encoding, or running orthos, both of which I am usually not here to hear it.
December 21, 2006 9:43:34 AM

I have a vacuum cleaner at home that's more quiet than the presshott they gave to me at work. Really sucks but I'm not allowed opening and tinkering with it.

My rig at home is quiet and I have it at about a 23% OC on stock cooling. It's all about the airflow in the case. Gotta love me Lanmoto case.
December 21, 2006 10:15:41 AM

I actually have a hard time falling asleep without my computer on. The quiet is too loud.(if you don't understand what I mean, I don't know how to explain.)
December 21, 2006 10:17:31 AM

My PC sounds like paint drying. Not OCed though after I discovered that I was p___ing into the wind with that hardware.

My new system (P4D 925-based) cannot be started up with people in the room, otherwise they complain about deafness and stuff like that. *sigh* I have to wait for march to start making the thing quiet...
December 21, 2006 10:18:04 AM

Yup, the good old sound of silence.

In my old flat (puny damn thing) my pc was right next to my bed on the dest. Couldn't sleep without it either. Lotsa night activity outside my place.
December 21, 2006 10:20:31 AM

I have to add that it's an athlon XP 2500+ Barton. Stock is 1.83Ghz or something. I've got it running at about 2.2Ghz. They just OC so easily...
December 24, 2006 12:15:37 AM

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jetengine pc sound??

Describes my PC perfectly.
December 24, 2006 6:57:29 PM

My computer is nearly dead silent and I keep the side of the case off :p 

Scythe Infinity with it's stock fan on the processor, 1 back case fan, and 2 fans in the PSU. My video card has heatsinks only and my Opteron 1212 @ 3.1Ghz doesn't go above 46C.
December 24, 2006 7:36:52 PM

The trick with owning a loud pc is to also own headphones(good ones(sennheiser)). Fans are hard to hear over the sound of gunfire.
December 24, 2006 8:06:48 PM

just fire all six rounds off of a s&w model29 44mag in double action
with no ear protection and you wont hear your pc for
a day or two.
December 24, 2006 8:12:57 PM

I usually have at least 2 computers of my own at any time - one for internet, music, and watching video, and the other for heavy lifting, gaming and overclocking. You can always build a low-end media box with integrated everything cheap and then it's only the cpu and powersupply to contend with for sound, and game on the noisy machine - when as someone has already said, the sound of gunfire obscures whatever crazy amount of noise is being generated by the machine itself.
December 24, 2006 8:20:14 PM

:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

:*RING*:
December 24, 2006 8:22:30 PM

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:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

:*RING*:


:lol:  exactly.
December 24, 2006 10:12:19 PM

lol you people are crazy :D  I knew it :D 
December 24, 2006 11:10:02 PM

The one component making the noise is the Freezer Pro 7. Even without overclocking if its running at 2600-2800rpm its very noisy. I know mine is and I cant get it to run at anything other than full speed or minimum (960rpm, and its pretty much silent but too hot for my liking). The noise of it at full speed all the time is starting to drive me mad.
December 24, 2006 11:36:12 PM

Seems stupid to buy like 15 expensive fans for some huge case...
It's just air and adding more than one extra case fan doesn't make any sense to me..
Just add a few bucks on top of what fans would cost, and get some simple prefab water cooling kit..
December 24, 2006 11:56:22 PM

watercooling makes my pc dead silent. Keeps everything cool and quiet on my Opty 165 OC'ed to 3.0GHZ. And thats with 4 120mm fans in a push pull config on my rad.
December 25, 2006 12:08:46 AM

My Scythe Infinity runs at 1300rpm, so my computer is really quiet...even with this massive overclock I keep it at (stays pretty cool too).
December 25, 2006 12:48:23 AM

My pc runs about 20db.. in a very cheap €15 case :lol: 

And its quiet enough to me.
December 25, 2006 2:32:13 AM

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just fire all six rounds off of a s&w model 29 44 mag in double action with no ear protection and you wont hear your pc for a day or two.


Did that once, really. Now I don't hear the pc fans much at all. Doctor said its called tinitus. Don't hear the girlfriend complaining, don't hear the kid squealing the tires of his car, play the sterio loud enough that the neighbors think its in their living room instead of mine.

But seriously now, for the OP. I don't think the problem is in the ASUS board. Its in the fan on the heatsink. Unless ASUS made the fan on the heatsink, its just not their fault. It may have a bad bearing or a cheap bearing that's loud. The cpu fan error in the BIOS probably just means that something's wrong with the fan and would you please fix it.

No wait, I see its an Artic cooling fan, so its probably a bad bearing. So RMA it if you can, or just buy a new fan. If you don't want to try Artic Cooling again, then try Zalman, Thermaltake, Sythe, or some other flavor. I don't see any reason to tolerate loud fans.
December 25, 2006 2:37:18 AM

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Did that once,

me too and once was enough for me :lol: 

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Now I don't hear the pc fans much at all. Doctor said its called tinitus. Don't hear the girlfriend complaining, don't hear the kid squealing the tires of his car, play the sterio loud enough that the neighbors think its in their living room instead of mine.


that could be a good thing. kinda :lol: 

how to invent a mute button for a woman :!:
December 25, 2006 9:42:26 AM

Don't let them hear your idea or they will find a way to counter it.

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watercooling makes my pc dead silent. Keeps everything cool and quiet on my Opty 165 OC'ed to 3.0GHZ. And thats with 4 120mm fans in a push pull config on my rad.


Watercooling makes my cpu wet.
December 25, 2006 9:47:43 AM

Well, it's not that simple as just try another fan cause....every fan even the zalman fan makes noise at 2600RPM. That's not really the problem....the problem is that when you don't need the 2600rpm as no heavy cpu load is going on.....the Mobo should adjust the rpm right to a more quiet mode. :)  Maybe watercooling is a better option for this little overclock....have to look into that.
December 25, 2006 2:10:49 PM

I guess it just seems odd to me that you have so much noise. My Zalman has a separate fan control, so I can turn it up or down as I need and its fairly quiet. Now I wonder if you have a sympathetic vibration going on the amplifies the noise in the case. Don't know for sure, of course.
December 25, 2006 5:37:31 PM

Ah yes indeed...that's a very nice feature...a seperate rpm regulator LMH. The Artic does not support this feature but when it runs without overclocking you are not able to hear him. It's a very very quiet cpu fan. The casing is also top quality...a Antec P150 with antec PSU. Harddrive is hanging in midair. The case material is made out of noise reducing layers.

Just wanna know one thing.....how much rpm does the zalman give in medium mode? Will it be able too keep the E6600 under the 60C when overclocked to 3Ghz and running under full stress on both cores?
December 25, 2006 6:20:08 PM

My last rig ( OC xp 2500) was loud, but it's much quieter upstairs in my wife's office. I learned from that and put coolermaster stealth fans in the new one. Now, I can only tell it's on because of the porn.
December 25, 2006 8:31:09 PM

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Just wanna know one thing.....how much rpm does the zalman give in medium mode? Will it be able too keep the E6600 under the 60C when overclocked to 3Ghz and running under full stress on both cores?


I haven't any idea what the RPM would be in medium mode. My 9500 is on a fan controler, and I have just let it run without monitoring its speed. I've read that the 9700 installs a bit easier on an Intel cpu than the 9500 and it cools a bit better, so you might head to that if you're interested. Thermal Take has some good coolers too, along with Sythe. You might try checking out their websites for more information.
December 25, 2006 9:24:20 PM

My OCed PC is by far the quietest system i've ever owned.
December 25, 2006 11:58:34 PM

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My OCed PC is by far the quietest system i've ever owned.


I'm very glad to hear that :)  I also like the picture from the movie.....the only problem is...I watched too many movies so I forgot the name. Maybe you want to tell me your system specs instead? ;) 
December 26, 2006 9:06:09 PM

My PC is pretty loud, but the noise really doesn't bother me :/ 

I used to keep it in my bedroom, and when I moved it to the study I couldnt sleep without it for the first few days :/ 
December 26, 2006 9:16:23 PM

Amazing how close we get to our computers ane the sounds they make, isn't it? :wink:

Of course, I would never tell my girlfriend such a thing. :roll:
December 26, 2006 9:28:31 PM

Answer to first question--YES
Answer to 2nd question--Turn volume up - was concerned about sympathetic vibrations from sub-woofer causing foundation to shatter - but bought some nice surround sound headphones.
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December 26, 2006 9:37:19 PM

You know as soon as you get your pc "silent", a week later its gonna sound "loud" again. Thats what happened to me, and its gonna happen to you unless you get out of the deadly "loop of lack of silence" (can you say, "allllllliteration"?). Just be content.
December 31, 2006 4:29:15 PM

I'll say this with all the fans in my case it sounds like a dustbuster next to me lol older Athlon XP's run hot though and my system is stable with oc'd video card and mild cpu oc. now when I upgrade I'll be looking to get a quiet pc but for now mild noise is no problems just an excuse to have my music louder (much to my parents disdain) rofl
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January 1, 2007 2:00:50 AM

Also whoever said OCing requires a noisy pc (other than the OP obviously)? Even extreme OCers who use liquid nitrogen to cool dont need "jet engine" sounds coming from their pc. Liquid nitrogen doesnt need a fan, and if you used one, it would only mean you have to refill the cooling system more often.
January 1, 2007 2:41:44 AM

I use a fan controller. It inly spins up all the fans when the CPU is hot - and I have to stress my system pretty hard for that. In normal use the CPU fan only runs at 50% and two of the fans are off altogether. But it does sound like a hair dryer when the automatic fan controller kicks in.
January 1, 2007 9:33:00 AM

OK guys, I've found the solution. I've replaced the Artic Cooling Pro 7 and bought the best tested Thermalright ULTRA-120 and Nexus 120mm fan (both got many awards)which is the most silent 120mm fan around and runs at only 1100RPM with a max of 22.8DB low (not high irritating yelling) sound. The fan is btw not running at full 1100RPM but more like around 800RPM. My dad's pc now runs succesfully on 3.4Ghz with around 33 degrees C as idle temp and fully stressed using Intel Thermal Analsis Tool (TAT) around 65 degree C.....but TAT really runs both cores at 100% while prime 95 doesn't fully stress the cores and the temps with Prime 95 will stick around 55C running on both cores. I think Prime95 comes closer to reality. The E6600 is a B2 revision running FBS378/756/vcore 1.4/2.1 for the mem.....system runs perfectly stable and silent without a single crash on an Asus P5W DH Deluxe/2GB G.E.I.L. DDR2 800 CL4-4-4-12 (258 €) all build in an Antec P150 case. Who needs irritating noise. The solution is right here. :) 
January 1, 2007 10:39:20 AM

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just fire all six rounds off of a s&w model29 44mag in double action
with no ear protection and you wont hear your pc for
a day or two.


I prefer the distinctive sound of the AK-47 assault rifle. 100M users can't all be wrong.

To the OP, try a new HSF but stay away from Zalman unless you get the high end.

EDIT: Oops, didn't see the second page, sorry.
January 1, 2007 12:02:40 PM

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I prefer the distinctive sound of the AK-47 assault rifle. 100M users can't all be wrong.


Except that some of them were holding their AK-47s cuz another dude ordered 5 dudes to point their AK-47s at the first dude if he refused to shoulder his AK-47.
January 1, 2007 12:20:32 PM

I use a modded titan nikita watercooler, oc to hell, and can sleep while runnin a 2 hour render of a 3D video in Cinema 4D. So really, air cooled oCers or nuts.
January 1, 2007 4:48:08 PM

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I use a modded titan nikita watercooler, oc to hell, and can sleep while runnin a 2 hour render of a 3D video in Cinema 4D. So really, air cooled oCers or nuts.


Hope you will never get a water leak or pump failure while sleeping :)  My dad can do just the same with this setup so I don't get your point. Also...3.4 Ghz is a very decent for an E6600. I did not test it but I think I can even get his system to run on 3.6 Ghz or higher aircooled but why should I go to the unhealthy limits for a few more Mhz? You will not even notice the difference anymore while computing unless you start long time renderings day in day out.
January 1, 2007 8:37:29 PM

well, the likelyhood of my pump failing or something leaking with the setup ive got is equal to that of a fan failing in an air-cooled rig.. pretty freaking low. And as with most water coolers, the noise levels under full load are pretty low. I can't oc any further cuz some guy at abit thought that silent-otes (crappy Al-Heatpipes and Al-Heatsinks) would be cool. (the voltage overheats my chipset).

Basically i was illustrating my point that not all ocers are nuts cuz not all of us use air cooling... And i have done 3 day renders. (I was experimenting with crazy vertex extrusion calculations to simulate hair, with reflection-refraction (glass likeness) and soft shadows (which call for shadowmaps to be rendered per frame)yeah, it took like 15 minutes to render single 1080p frames)
January 1, 2007 9:15:46 PM

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I prefer the distinctive sound of the AK-47 assault rifle. ...


Except that some of them were holding their AK-47s cuz another dude ordered 5 dudes to point their AK-47s at the first dude if he refused to shoulder his AK-47.

It happens when AK's are deployed in a non-sporting capacity. SAC baby huh, where were you? I was underground @ Offutt.

I was just thinking, my PC must be pretty quiet. I caan't here it at all over the 4 routers, 2 switches and 3 servers in the rack behind me. :wink:
January 2, 2007 5:32:17 PM

ohhh... that's indeed a bit strange....is that the Abit AB9 Pro? I never thought that Abit was not delivering bad mobo's when it comes to overclocking. something new to me. But thx for letting me know. Nice one btw on the art thingie. I do a bit of art my self but more with photoshop and photographs. Do you also have an account on Deviantart.com? :)  Maybe you can pm it please? I would like to take a look thx.
January 3, 2007 9:04:58 AM

I run my 2 80mm case fans at half speed (hard-modded) and my Thermaltake Volcano 12 CPU cooler (it sucks ass) at about 1500rpm. The fan on the Ti4200 shat itself 3 years ago, so that's being passively cooled by the tiniest piece of aluminium you've ever seen. Even so, the system never goes above 60C, which I'm okay with.

The video card makes a funny smell when I boot up Empire Earth on a gigantic map with 8 players at 1280x1024 with full graphics settings though... It's an MSI card.

Edit: "I run my 2 80mm case fun"... corrected this. Case fun...
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