The future of Mac?

what a helpful post.... have you used a mac for an extended period of time? or jsut sat down and didnt understand it so gave up and said they suck? i have used windows my entire life but recently had access to a mac book pro for the last month few months, seriously they are much better, yes the windows partition can get viruses and such but then you just format that partition nothing happens to your mac stuff, yes it crashes in windows but not while in osx. seriously doing any graphic design is so much faster because you dont have random crap happening, you dont to spend time fixing problems, you just do your work and are done. creating somethin in photoshop on a mac is much easier and quicker than on a pc. you are all just windows fanboys who have never actually tried using mac.

I agree with most everything except this...

Im not sure this really means all that much. Unix/Linux are also moving to be more compatible with windows. In return Windows 2003 also has many extensions to it that make it more compatible with Macs/Linux/Unix machines as well. Office is now opening up to make it more compatible with other platforms. Whether its defeat or not, it is good for the IT industry for these OS's and software to start playing nice with each other.




Macs do get viruses btw, just check Talisker Security and that will become apparent. And it has nothing to do with it now being able to run Windows.

Agreed

As long as people need powerful, easy to use computers, people will keep buying macs.

Don't forget that running windows also qualifies you as a tool, so stop with the blind rage towards the mac.

In my opinion, once Mac went with Intel, all they are is an overpriced PC with a propitiatory OS. If I wanted to run Windows and Office, I won't spend the money on an Apple: a machine I can't upgrade or fix myself.

Macs, like every other pc manufacturer (Dell, Compaq, HP, Alienware....), targets a specific group. When Mac ads attack PC owners who are they really attacking? Dell, Compaq, custom builders, or even do-it-yourselfers. The majority of the world OSs are windows based. Mac is the underdog, and what do underdogs do, but attack everyone else regardless of who they got their PC from.

Desperation or great marketing scheme, it doesn't really matter. Apple will continue to sell computers as long as it serves their target group. Because everyone likes to use their computers for different things, and will purchase the one of their choice based on which one they FEEL suits them the best.

lol agreed, I have sat down and used many macs, many of my friends have owned macs and there are one or 2 that still do, but once they realize how to properly use windows then they realize what crap OSX really is!

Best,

3Ball

Negative ghostrider the pattern is full, I am well aware of the big L and how to use it, though I havent in a while, but if you use windows properly...or any OS for that matter then you arent going to have problems. The number one source of problems on PC's or any computer for that matter is lack of ability to use it. We get just as many macs in our shop as we do PC's of any brand, except we are unable to fix them and the people that come in do not do any sort of editing for thier work or any other use, and just fell into the false advertising of mac and bought the machines and now they have to ship them on back to get them to fix their problems for them because even though macs dont give you error messages they still do have problems and still get errors and virus' as well. They just do not tell you and then there is a large build up of crap that does not need to be their and results in a final problem/crash that is very unexpected and who are the only people that can fix it?!? oh thats right...mac! lol what a waste!

Best,

3Ball

in the garbage.

yes, but thats only because of their marketing. once their marketing machine fades away, macs will die out again. stupid iPods and stupid ibooks and imacs and stupid arghghghh die mac!!

the bottom line though, is that macs are just in a completely different price range than PCs. the cheapest mac is a little mac mini and thats $500. and no dvd burner. the premium that apple charges for mac users will never attract many consumers. and of course, that all the hardware is proprietary, so no upgrading, fixing, or changing of anything.
granted, i know a lot of people prefer macs for video and picture editing. but if your not in that category, i dont see the point.
right now, apple is riding the wave of die hard liberal adolescents. and adolescents now includes about 12- 35 year olds. and the connection between the commercials and politics by another poster is accurate. dont get me wrong, im no right-winger, but i despise ipod wearing tight jeans with holes people as the next guy

Thats advertising. Get over it.

This is why I get angry and I'm glad to see someone else thinks like me. Also, glad to see this thread still alive.

I think that this is based on what you are use to. I can figure out Windows based software very well. Plenty intuitive for me.

You get zero points for flamebaiting.

Honestly, what the fuck do you think you're doing?

It's the dumbest thread I've read in an age - and frankly, who gives a shit what you think? Macs have a legitimate market, and it seems incredibly unlikely their market share will drop any time soon - in fact, I'm willing to bet that they increase market share in the next 24 months.

Disclaimer: I own 6 PCs, 4 laptops, and a Mac Powerbook.

I think the mac has a great future. I have been a PC user for years. I have been through so many editing systems that were complete garbage. Avid was a solid program but you had to have a Bachelor of Avid to run it. Final Cut Pro came along and blew everything else out of the water...at half the price. You could just sit down and edit...without a manual. Very intuitive. Creating a DVD was a sure thing. In most PC DVD creation programs you crossed your fingers and hoped that the DVD recorder would be recognized and that it would like the media you put into it. iDVD was drag, drop, and burn...with nice templates as a bonus.

The comment about the commercial where the PC is actually being used for creative stuff. Actually...what the mac people were saying in that commercial is that PC's hate doing creative stuff. That is why he looked so tired and worn out. He is used to doing "spreadsheets and word documents".
Macs are created for creativity sake. You buy it. It usually is powerful enough to do the work. You can't upgrade it...but who wants to tear apart a system and rebuild it when you can just put the whole system up on Ebay and actually get some money for it. Macs keep their value for that reason. Sure they start out expensive but they hold value. That is why buying a used mac isn't such a bad proposition...especially if it has the applecare warranty which is fully transferable.

I am still a PC user. I am also a mac user. I know both systems and if I need something specific done I pick the best system. If I want to do animation or play Battlefield 2 I use a PC. If I want to edit video...I use a mac.

As for the future of the mac? Read the above paragraph. Mac has now given people like me an all in one solution. Why do you think they might have done that? Maybe because they wanted to sell more hardware...or at least give people like me the option to run both operating systems without having to have a room full of computer gear. One machine...two operating systems. I still haven't made the decision to jump to the mac platform and rely on a dual boot system...but as time progresses and hardware gets so cheap that even a mac is affordable...along with the seamless integration of Bootcamp...a mac would seem to be the way to go.

One last thing. There must be a reason why mac is gaining market share. It might be because people are tired of having to choose between 7 different versions of Windows when Vista comes out. Mac...one OS...no matter what machine you choose to use.

And for all the mac snobs out there...anyone can own a mac. All you have to do is reach into your back pocket and get out your credit card. It isn't an elitist thing...something that makes you of higher intelligence just because you can use a mac and get things done on it.

As for the PC users...some people like to hot rod. Overclock. Get the most bang for thier buck and endure the hardships of drivers and making every single piece of the puzzle work. When you do figure it out...it feels good. Don't hate mac users just because they don't want to take apart stuff to get it to work.

Use what works for you. Don't hate others because they made a choice you didn't. Don't make a choice that you think will make you elite. It won't.

Peace.

I"ve used macs from the 1st as well as PC's. I have used them professionally in printing/graphics where MACs really shine and PCs really suck. HOWEVER, at home I use and build PC's so I can play cool games and where MACs suck. Draw your own conclusions.