Radovan Karadzic.

as i have said in another thread, there is no UN, just UN members.

also, who cares, tons of people massacre or organise the massacring of people and we don't see this hoohah.

and why would i be fcuktard. i was simply stating facts.

I have very little to no respect for the law. I do respect human life. 8373 dead in Srebrenica just isn't funny.

These two guys created this website called Google... maybe you've heard of it?

hmm, we are opposites aren't we tom. numbers on a screen here. if you piled them up so i could get as sense of scale then it might help but just numbers even then.

now, seeing as how many innocent people the brits and the yanks have been responsible for, are bush, blair and now brown also going to be hunted down as some of the worlds most dangerous men?

Yes, I'm all for that.

And the Dutch fcukers who stood by and done nothing.[/Biggie baiting]

I can just about believe you're stupid enough to think more of animal welfare than that of your fellow man. I refuse to believe you actually think killing one person, for whatever reason, is no different than ordering the destruction of an entire race for political gain.

Riser is the forum's button-pusher around here. You are just taking the piss or are seriously mentally ill.

uhm, lets see, RAF, WWII. like i say, it appears the how is more important than the what.

also, give me a little time and i am sure i can come up with evidence of exactly that situation, then again, history favours those who write it.

maybe there is something wrong with me that i cannot connect with what some people consider atrocities. i am well aware that they are wrong but i do not feel anything about them. i would have to see it for myself.

seeing as i do not care about one, i do not care about all is my way. however, i do not give preference to one over the other which too many do.

sorry, you are asking of me something that i cannot give, compassion.

hmm, post WWII, hmm. i'll have a dig about. we ain't done as much pillaging as we used to since then.

My platoon was smack bang in the middle of the atrocities, we found a couple of the mass graves. It was the stench that hit you first.... it's something that will live with me for the rest of my life. The worst thing I've ever seen. I watched battle-hardened men slump to the ground in shock when we found it, and we'd been warned what we might find.

I see the point you are making, the bravery of being out of range.

Jef is talking about the bombing of a legitimate military target as opposed to a fcuking lunatic slaughtering innocent civilians. Perhaps he is at fault for not being a little clearer, perhaps for not getting out the felt shapes too.

So you're saying that Saddam's "human shield" during the Gulf War should have made us pack up and go home and let him have Kuwait?

What you're suggesting is a kidnappers charter. You really are a dimwit, aren't you?

knowingly killing civilians is never the best solution, especially by something so remote as bombings, no matter how accurate they say they are it is never accurate enough, somethings have to be done by actual people.

No, that's the point. Most people can comprehend just how horrific those events would be if witnessed first hand.

Yes. That's exactly what I was talking about. Bombing a village / city as a target during war. Both sides know that there's a war going on, both sides know what could happen to them. I was pretty vague, but I thought most people here would be smart enough to figure it out.

Let's also look at the 9/11 attacks on America, and even Pearl Harbor. I also see those as (slightly) less bad, as those involved knew that we would be coming after them full force. I didn't hear a whole lot about any resistance to the polesmoke that spawned this thread. He was a bully and he had people killed because he could. He used killing of innocent people as an incentive to his men to keep their morale up.

SS, you really are a complete moron. We aren't saying it has to stir feeling in you. You can still know right / wrong. I'm not sitting here crying for those that died (like Pike prolly is), but I know this guy was a cnut and should have been killed a long time ago.

***predicts SS won't care either way***

Because you look somewhat like a sheep.

Strangely, I have both poor eyesight and knackered wrists.

Now is not the time to be investing in stocks. Its time to buy real estate.

Why are you guys arguing about the level of moral atrocity of one bad act to another?

Unquestionably, killing in person is worse than killing from afar (missile, bomb, etc), but at the same time, this guy was not the one with his hand on the trigger (as far as we know, for most of it).

He ordered his psychos to do it, similar to ordering a bombing.

Do I think either is right? Nope. But the whole Serbian thing is just a bit further off teh sicko scale not only for the persoanl attension to killing. It also has no real point other than power and the consolodation and securement thereof.

The second thing is the fact that I cannot imagine a man who is commanding a genocide ot have the least feelings of remorse, regret or shame for any act he has committed sheerly in the name of his own movement. While that cannot be proven any more than saying those that ordered similar killings of innocents by alternate means in WWII DID show these feelings and knew what they were doing for what they wee getting in the grand scheme, there is still a leaning towards the means and methods.



I, for one, would feel more frightened of a group of heavily armed men kicking down my door and brutally slaying me and my family than sitting there when a bomb hits.

2 things:


1. How is talking about what I should have gotten 10 years ago have anything to do with what I should get, or whether I should get it, today?

Don't answer that. It was "Rhetorical" (Google it you do not know what that means)

2. Real estate is not a good investment right now for a few reasons. First, it is not liquid. It is taking longer to sell, so as in investment, it is harder to liquidate after you buy and rennovate or just buy and sit on for two years (tax purposes).

Second, interest rates (like the 30 year fixed) are at thei highest in 10 years. With bank rates low and the stock market doing poorly AND the real estate market flattening, you do not stand to see too much coming from anything that would overcome that,what is it now, 6.5% rate?


So if you were being serious, you really need to get out more.

If you were joking, that was about as funny as bending over with Wingy in the room.

Riser is just yanking everyone's chains. Even Sypher wouldn't be buying real estate now.

Anyone with spare cash should be picking up shares in companies trading below their NAV. There's a lot of cash to be made over the next 18 months-3 years if you have a bit of spare cash and know your way around a balance sheet.

Bombs are far, far worse than being killed by people, for one you can almost be gauranteed to be the intended target and to be killed and not just wounded.

I am also, not getting this concept you are all talking about, i am who i am and that ain't changing anytime soon.

the real interesting thing is that do you guys believe given the right circumstances you would not carry out equally bad atrocities, that would be an interesting experiment.

Would that have been a soggy biscuit?