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April 13, 2005 3:41:48 PM

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I have a server farm of about 50 servers (2k and 2k3). On 2 of my 2K
servers, todays updates killed TCP/IP (I am assuming it is Security Bulletin
MS05-019)

Both of these servers have QLogic HBAs installed. I was able to get one
back up and running by uninstalling TCP/IP, uninstalling MS05-019, then
re-installing TCP/IP. One is still dead.

I am afraid of installing this patch on my other servers with HBAs for fear
of killing them.

Anyone?
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 3:41:49 PM

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Support for security updates is always free. Call them at 1-866-PCSAFETY

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS05...

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"Blake" wrote:
|I have a server farm of about 50 servers (2k and 2k3). On 2 of my 2K
| servers, todays updates killed TCP/IP (I am assuming it is Security
Bulletin
| MS05-019)
|
| Both of these servers have QLogic HBAs installed. I was able to get one
| back up and running by uninstalling TCP/IP, uninstalling MS05-019, then
| re-installing TCP/IP. One is still dead.
|
| I am afraid of installing this patch on my other servers with HBAs for
fear
| of killing them.
|
| Anyone?
|
|
April 13, 2005 9:35:16 PM

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Their support isn't free for server OSes.

We called today and their first question was ' how would you like to pay for
this call?'

:( 

"Dave Patrick" <mail@Nospam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message
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> Support for security updates is always free. Call them at 1-866-PCSAFETY
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS05...
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "Blake" wrote:
> |I have a server farm of about 50 servers (2k and 2k3). On 2 of my 2K
> | servers, todays updates killed TCP/IP (I am assuming it is Security
> Bulletin
> | MS05-019)
> |
> | Both of these servers have QLogic HBAs installed. I was able to get one
> | back up and running by uninstalling TCP/IP, uninstalling MS05-019, then
> | re-installing TCP/IP. One is still dead.
> |
> | I am afraid of installing this patch on my other servers with HBAs for
> fear
> | of killing them.
> |
> | Anyone?
> |
> |
>
>
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Anonymous
April 13, 2005 9:35:17 PM

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It makes no difference. Did you mention the article and purpose of the call?

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"Blake" wrote:
| Their support isn't free for server OSes.
|
| We called today and their first question was ' how would you like to pay
for
| this call?'
|
| :( 
Anonymous
April 14, 2005 12:34:08 AM

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Small detail:
the majority of Windows licences are sold outside the US-Canada.

I bought one of those licences overhere in Belgium,
at a much higher price than a US customer would pay.

The last time I needed support for a security update
I spent +30 minutes on a regular Belgian toll-line to Brussels.

MS simply does not offer toll-free support lines
for patches outside the USA/CAN

I even had some trouble convincing the Dutch speaking MS operator that I did
not
need a credit card to get help with the security patch that
made my XP unbootable.







"Dave Patrick" <mail@Nospam.DSPatrick.com> schreef in bericht
news:uSQOpSEQFHA.2356@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Support for security updates is always free. Call them at 1-866-PCSAFETY
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS05...
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "Blake" wrote:
> |I have a server farm of about 50 servers (2k and 2k3). On 2 of my 2K
> | servers, todays updates killed TCP/IP (I am assuming it is Security
> Bulletin
> | MS05-019)
> |
> | Both of these servers have QLogic HBAs installed. I was able to get one
> | back up and running by uninstalling TCP/IP, uninstalling MS05-019, then
> | re-installing TCP/IP. One is still dead.
> |
> | I am afraid of installing this patch on my other servers with HBAs for
> fear
> | of killing them.
> |
> | Anyone?
> |
> |
>
>
Anonymous
April 16, 2005 4:51:00 PM

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The way it normally works in this regard is you pay first and if the issue is determined to be from a security update then they re-imburse. That doesn't happen very often.

--
George Hester
_________________________________
"Dave Patrick" <mail@Nospam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message news:eJr9JHHQFHA.2580@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> It makes no difference. Did you mention the article and purpose of the call?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "Blake" wrote:
> | Their support isn't free for server OSes.
> |
> | We called today and their first question was ' how would you like to pay
> for
> | this call?'
> |
> | :( 
>
>
Anonymous
April 16, 2005 8:36:25 PM

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Actually, no. Calls to the security number are free, always have been and
always will be. If you call the regular support lines then what you suggest
is what happens.

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Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
* http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm



"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The way it normally works in this regard is you pay first and if the issue
is determined to be from a security update then they re-imburse. That
doesn't happen very often.

--
George Hester
_________________________________
"Dave Patrick" <mail@Nospam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message
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> It makes no difference. Did you mention the article and purpose of the
> call?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "Blake" wrote:
> | Their support isn't free for server OSes.
> |
> | We called today and their first question was ' how would you like to pay
> for
> | this call?'
> |
> | :( 
>
>
Anonymous
April 16, 2005 9:17:30 PM

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The calls are free they always are. The support costs $

--
George Hester
_________________________________
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message news:un1z2PsQFHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Actually, no. Calls to the security number are free, always have been and
> always will be. If you call the regular support lines then what you suggest
> is what happens.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
>
>
> "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:o G0l7RqQFHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> The way it normally works in this regard is you pay first and if the issue
> is determined to be from a security update then they re-imburse. That
> doesn't happen very often.
>
> --
> George Hester
> _________________________________
> "Dave Patrick" <mail@Nospam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message
> news:eJr9JHHQFHA.2580@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > It makes no difference. Did you mention the article and purpose of the
> > call?
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> > Microsoft Certified Professional
> > Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> > http://www.microsoft.com/protect
> >
> > "Blake" wrote:
> > | Their support isn't free for server OSes.
> > |
> > | We called today and their first question was ' how would you like to pay
> > for
> > | this call?'
> > |
> > | :( 
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
April 16, 2005 11:26:22 PM

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Sorry, you're still wrong.

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Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
* http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm



"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The calls are free they always are. The support costs $

--
George Hester
_________________________________
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:un1z2PsQFHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Actually, no. Calls to the security number are free, always have been and
> always will be. If you call the regular support lines then what you
> suggest
> is what happens.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
>
>
> "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:o G0l7RqQFHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> The way it normally works in this regard is you pay first and if the issue
> is determined to be from a security update then they re-imburse. That
> doesn't happen very often.
>
> --
> George Hester
> _________________________________
> "Dave Patrick" <mail@Nospam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message
> news:eJr9JHHQFHA.2580@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > It makes no difference. Did you mention the article and purpose of the
> > call?
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> > Microsoft Certified Professional
> > Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> > http://www.microsoft.com/protect
> >
> > "Blake" wrote:
> > | Their support isn't free for server OSes.
> > |
> > | We called today and their first question was ' how would you like to
> > pay
> > for
> > | this call?'
> > |
> > | :( 
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
April 17, 2005 12:50:37 AM

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Ditto el wrongo.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"George Hester" wrote:
The calls are free they always are. The support costs $

--
George Hester
Anonymous
April 17, 2005 9:38:32 PM

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Microsoft has 1-800 numbers many of them. I don't think the op can access them though. So although you may think I am wrong believe it when push comes to shove what I said will happen. Microsoft has first to determine the issue is a result of a security fix and when they do that the Credit Card will be reimbursed. But note that can take months.

--
George Hester
_________________________________
"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:o QDt3msQFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
The calls are free they always are. The support costs $

--
George Hester
_________________________________
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message news:un1z2PsQFHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Actually, no. Calls to the security number are free, always have been and
> always will be. If you call the regular support lines then what you suggest
> is what happens.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
>
>
> "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:o G0l7RqQFHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> The way it normally works in this regard is you pay first and if the issue
> is determined to be from a security update then they re-imburse. That
> doesn't happen very often.
>
> --
> George Hester
> _________________________________
> "Dave Patrick" <mail@Nospam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message
> news:eJr9JHHQFHA.2580@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > It makes no difference. Did you mention the article and purpose of the
> > call?
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> > Microsoft Certified Professional
> > Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> > http://www.microsoft.com/protect
> >
> > "Blake" wrote:
> > | Their support isn't free for server OSes.
> > |
> > | We called today and their first question was ' how would you like to pay
> > for
> > | this call?'
> > |
> > | :( 
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
April 17, 2005 9:38:33 PM

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Quoted from any security bulletin;

Support:
Customers in the U.S. and Canada can receive technical support from
Microsoft Product Support Services at 1-866-PCSAFETY. There is no charge for
support calls that are associated with security updates.

International customers can receive support from their local Microsoft
subsidiaries. There is no charge for support that is associated with
security updates. For more information about how to contact Microsoft for
support issues, visit the International Support Web site.

--
Regards,

Dave

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"George Hester" wrote:
Microsoft has 1-800 numbers many of them. I don't think the op can access
them though. So although you may think I am wrong believe it when push
comes to shove what I said will happen. Microsoft has first to determine
the issue is a result of a security fix and when they do that the Credit
Card will be reimbursed. But note that can take months.

--
George Hester
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 12:39:41 AM

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I understand that. But Microsoft has to first determine the issue WAS from a security update. If it wasn't do you think THEN they are going to ask you to pay for the support that was given? I doubt it. Microsoft charges first then re-imburses later. Been there done that.

There is one way to avoid these support charges and only one that I know of. But just calling their Support Center with a security update issue is not one of them.

--
George Hester
_________________________________
"Dave Patrick" <mail@Nospam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message news:eJUSDk5QFHA.2384@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Quoted from any security bulletin;
>
> Support:
> Customers in the U.S. and Canada can receive technical support from
> Microsoft Product Support Services at 1-866-PCSAFETY. There is no charge for
> support calls that are associated with security updates.
>
> International customers can receive support from their local Microsoft
> subsidiaries. There is no charge for support that is associated with
> security updates. For more information about how to contact Microsoft for
> support issues, visit the International Support Web site.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "George Hester" wrote:
> Microsoft has 1-800 numbers many of them. I don't think the op can access
> them though. So although you may think I am wrong believe it when push
> comes to shove what I said will happen. Microsoft has first to determine
> the issue is a result of a security fix and when they do that the Credit
> Card will be reimbursed. But note that can take months.
>
> --
> George Hester
>
>
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 12:39:42 AM

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So you're saying you don't believe what you read on the page. "There is no
charge for support calls that are associated with security updates." OK

First point. 1-866-PCSAFETY probably only nets you support for security
updates.
Second point. When you tell them you install it, it is broke. You uninstall
it, it is fixed.

You think they're going to send you to paid support? I think you have left
reality George.

--
Regards,

Dave

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"George Hester" wrote:
I understand that. But Microsoft has to first determine the issue WAS from
a security update. If it wasn't do you think THEN they are going to ask you
to pay for the support that was given? I doubt it. Microsoft charges first
then re-imburses later. Been there done that.

There is one way to avoid these support charges and only one that I know of.
But just calling their Support Center with a security update issue is not
one of them.

--
George Hester
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 2:37:56 AM

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Maybe so. All I can say is the proof is in the pudding.

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George Hester
_________________________________
"Dave Patrick" <mail@Nospam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message news:uunFmE7QFHA.1500@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> So you're saying you don't believe what you read on the page. "There is no
> charge for support calls that are associated with security updates." OK
>
> First point. 1-866-PCSAFETY probably only nets you support for security
> updates.
> Second point. When you tell them you install it, it is broke. You uninstall
> it, it is fixed.
>
> You think they're going to send you to paid support? I think you have left
> reality George.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "George Hester" wrote:
> I understand that. But Microsoft has to first determine the issue WAS from
> a security update. If it wasn't do you think THEN they are going to ask you
> to pay for the support that was given? I doubt it. Microsoft charges first
> then re-imburses later. Been there done that.
>
> There is one way to avoid these support charges and only one that I know of.
> But just calling their Support Center with a security update issue is not
> one of them.
>
> --
> George Hester
>
>
April 18, 2005 1:06:50 PM

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I appreciate the time, guys, but this isn't helping.

Uninstalling didn't fix the problem. (that was the first thing I tried). I
have 50 servers, 9 of them with QLogic HBAs (for connecting to our SAN). I
ran the updates on 10 of these servers. 8 worked fine. The 2 I ran that
have HBAs had no network access after reboot. IPCONFIG reported that the
machine had no TCP/IP capability. I removed the patches - nothing. I
uninstalled/re-installed TCP/IP - nothing. I re-applied SP 4. Nothing. I
have been afraid to apply the patches to the other servers for fear of
killing them.

I called MS - they said 'how do you want to pay for this call'.

I don't think anyone disagrees, Dave, that MS says what you posted (that the
calls are free). However, actually calling them gets a different response.

I know have 40 unpatched machines.


"Dave Patrick" <mail@Nospam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message
news:uunFmE7QFHA.1500@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> So you're saying you don't believe what you read on the page. "There is no
> charge for support calls that are associated with security updates." OK
>
> First point. 1-866-PCSAFETY probably only nets you support for security
> updates.
> Second point. When you tell them you install it, it is broke. You
> uninstall
> it, it is fixed.
>
> You think they're going to send you to paid support? I think you have left
> reality George.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "George Hester" wrote:
> I understand that. But Microsoft has to first determine the issue WAS
> from
> a security update. If it wasn't do you think THEN they are going to ask
> you
> to pay for the support that was given? I doubt it. Microsoft charges
> first
> then re-imburses later. Been there done that.
>
> There is one way to avoid these support charges and only one that I know
> of.
> But just calling their Support Center with a security update issue is not
> one of them.
>
> --
> George Hester
>
>
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 1:06:51 PM

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OK, I mis-understood. I thought removing ms05-019 was part of your fix. You
might try removing the NIC from Device Manager, restarting the machine. The
Found New Hardware wizard should start and reinstall the hardware. Seems
you've nothing to lose anyway.

--
Regards,
Dave

-------------
Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
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"Blake" wrote:
|I appreciate the time, guys, but this isn't helping.
|
| Uninstalling didn't fix the problem. (that was the first thing I tried).
I
| have 50 servers, 9 of them with QLogic HBAs (for connecting to our SAN).
I
| ran the updates on 10 of these servers. 8 worked fine. The 2 I ran that
| have HBAs had no network access after reboot. IPCONFIG reported that the
| machine had no TCP/IP capability. I removed the patches - nothing. I
| uninstalled/re-installed TCP/IP - nothing. I re-applied SP 4. Nothing.
I
| have been afraid to apply the patches to the other servers for fear of
| killing them.
|
| I called MS - they said 'how do you want to pay for this call'.
|
| I don't think anyone disagrees, Dave, that MS says what you posted (that
the
| calls are free). However, actually calling them gets a different
response.
|
| I know have 40 unpatched machines.
Anonymous
May 1, 2005 8:17:58 AM

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"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#YwlowdTFHA.2096@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Hi Herb:

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/rootkitrevea...

>Well I can tell you if someone said to me you are urinating alot; you have
a dry mouth
>and fruity breadth; you feel always run down; and have an unquenchable
thirst sounds
>like you have Diabetes I'd say I probably do if I had those symptoms.

(The above doesn't seem to have anything to do with what I wrote, so
maybe it was in reference to something earlier in the thread.)

> This article almost exactly described what I experienced. I'd say it was
a User Mode RootKit but the Kernel also sounded right the Registry issues.


> I ran his scan tool and it seems I have some issues on a drive that I can
remove from Windows 2000. It's a FAT16 drive and the files it contains look
like source files. So I really don't know what this means if anything.
I've removed it from Windows 2000 I'll be running the tool again later but I
think I have a clean bill of health. Thanks for that RootKit description.
I actually knew about this but never had the need to investigate it.

Glad to help.
Anonymous
May 2, 2005 3:16:11 AM

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What it means is if you have the symptoms a diagnosis may be in order. You doubted that a RootKit could be a part of malware. I had the symptoms and so chances are RootKit as diagnosis is NOT so far fetched. That's the reason for my analogy. Sorry it escaped you.

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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message news:#Py7u6iTFHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:#YwlowdTFHA.2096@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi Herb:
>
> http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/rootkitrevea...
>
> >Well I can tell you if someone said to me you are urinating alot; you have
> a dry mouth
> >and fruity breadth; you feel always run down; and have an unquenchable
> thirst sounds
> >like you have Diabetes I'd say I probably do if I had those symptoms.
>
> (The above doesn't seem to have anything to do with what I wrote, so
> maybe it was in reference to something earlier in the thread.)
>
> > This article almost exactly described what I experienced. I'd say it was
> a User Mode RootKit but the Kernel also sounded right the Registry issues.
>
>
> > I ran his scan tool and it seems I have some issues on a drive that I can
> remove from Windows 2000. It's a FAT16 drive and the files it contains look
> like source files. So I really don't know what this means if anything.
> I've removed it from Windows 2000 I'll be running the tool again later but I
> think I have a clean bill of health. Thanks for that RootKit description.
> I actually knew about this but never had the need to investigate it.
>
> Glad to help.
>
>
>
Anonymous
May 2, 2005 5:14:56 AM

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>"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eyBSrUsTFHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> What it means is if you have the symptoms a diagnosis may be in order.

Got that part.

> You doubted that a RootKit could be a part of malware.

No me -- you were reading someone else's comments and replying
to mine.

> I had the symptoms and so chances are RootKit as diagnosis is
> NOT so far fetched. That's the reason for my analogy. Sorry it escaped
you.


Which is the reason I suggested you download the RootKit Revealer.

See, I was assuming you knew what you were doing. (You sounded
like it.)
Anonymous
May 5, 2005 2:25:46 AM

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Not always.

--
George Hester
_________________________________
"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message news:o Hz3uAuTFHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eyBSrUsTFHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > What it means is if you have the symptoms a diagnosis may be in order.
>
> Got that part.
>
> > You doubted that a RootKit could be a part of malware.
>
> No me -- you were reading someone else's comments and replying
> to mine.
>
> > I had the symptoms and so chances are RootKit as diagnosis is
> > NOT so far fetched. That's the reason for my analogy. Sorry it escaped
> you.
>
>
> Which is the reason I suggested you download the RootKit Revealer.
>
> See, I was assuming you knew what you were doing. (You sounded
> like it.)
>
>
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