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Socket 939 PCI-E 6800 upgraded to ______?

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December 22, 2006 3:27:30 PM

I was wondering if anyone can recommend some upgrade options for my aging A8N SLI deluxe setup.

Currently I have a Leadtek 6800 with an AMD 3000+ processor 1 gig of ram.

I would like to know if there are any decent choices for me within the 300-400 $$$ range. I plan to upgrade my proc as well but I'm not sure what I should do first.

Sales person I was talking to said I should probably get a proc as the Socket 939 is on the way out, and I can always find a good PCI-E card.

Thoughts?
December 22, 2006 4:33:04 PM

Depends what you use the system for.

If it's gaming, sell your 6800 and get a nice X1950 XT for under $300. That'd give you the biggest gamning boost you could ask for.

As for the processor, it won't make that much difference in gaming if you have an A64 already. In the future, older CPUs will always be cheap to find on ebay...
December 22, 2006 5:03:11 PM

So you think I should get a video card first?

Will that video card you mentioned work with a A8N SLI deluxe mobo, i think it has an Nforce 4 chipset
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December 22, 2006 5:13:57 PM

IF your mobo has a PCIe slot, any PCIe videocard will run on it just as long as your PSU is up to snuff.

Yeah, I'd upgrade the vc as AMD will hault 939 in a few months. You'l always be able to transfer the videocard.
December 22, 2006 5:43:25 PM

My suggestion is to go for 2 Gigs of ram first. Save the rest of your money for a DX10 card and overclock the crap out of your 3000 (figuratively speaking). Why buy a DX9 card when DX10 is right around the corner.
December 22, 2006 6:13:01 PM

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My suggestion is to go for 2 Gigs of ram first. Save the rest of your money for a DX10 card and overclock the crap out of your 3000 (figuratively speaking). Why buy a DX9 card when DX10 is right around the corner.


This does make sense. I'll see how much I cant pick RAM up for. i think i probably have ancient ram. anyone have anything they can recommend?
December 22, 2006 6:39:33 PM

This does not make sense.

There are only, like, 2 games on the planet that care if you have over 1gb of RAM.

More ram will give you absolutely no extra performance with that machine. Wasted money.
December 22, 2006 7:06:44 PM

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This does not make sense.

There are only, like, 2 games on the planet that care if you have over 1gb of RAM.

More ram will give you absolutely no extra performance with that machine. Wasted money.

Uh, are you sure about that....? I mean, ram will mean faster load times for SURE. I sit and load the massive textures my X1950 craves for like 3 minutes whenever I play Company of Heroes :roll:
December 22, 2006 7:26:24 PM

Cleeve's right. The biggest performance gain the OP will get for his dollar in gaming with that system is a new video card.

Why put more money into DDR400 RAM now when it will be useless to the OP come upgrade time? A good $300 PCI-E video card will be far more useful down the road a bit.

The sales person said new processor because he'll have to sell you new RAM (DDR2) and a new motherboard (AM2 or C2D) to go with it. :wink:

@ ak47is1337, where the hell have you been?
December 22, 2006 7:56:56 PM

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Depends what you use the system for.

If it's gaming, sell your 6800 and get a nice X1950 XT for under $300. That'd give you the biggest gamning boost you could ask for.

As for the processor, it won't make that much difference in gaming if you have an A64 already. In the future, older CPUs will always be cheap to find on ebay...


Seconded. I also agree that you'll see a much bigger improvement by upgrading your GPU than you would by adding another gig of RAM.
December 22, 2006 8:07:12 PM

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Uh, are you sure about that....? I mean, ram will mean faster load times for SURE.


Pretty sure...

Faster load times between levels with 2 Gb? Maybe.
But what good is shorter load times it if your videocard can't deliver playable framerates?

You're better off with a faster videocard and smoother gameplay with an extra few seconds of waiting between level loads, methinks...
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2006 8:12:16 PM

i agree. hell maybe even keep the 6800 card and wait for
the middle of the road ati and nv dx10 cards.
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2006 8:19:28 PM

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Uh, are you sure about that....? I mean, ram will mean faster load times for SURE.


Pretty sure...

Faster load times between levels with 2 Gb? Maybe.
But what good is shorter load times it if your videocard can't deliver playable framerates?

You're better off with a faster videocard and smoother gameplay with an extra few seconds of waiting between level loads, methinks...

bf2 is the only game that i play that 2gigs works better.
and that is only for the (verifying clientdata).
and well the choppyness.
December 22, 2006 8:45:34 PM

Agree. Go with the gpu. Entering the game quicker than everyone else - yet groaning at 10fps? It would be viable if you had 512mb's.
December 22, 2006 9:12:23 PM

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Cleeve's right. The biggest performance gain the OP will get for his dollar in gaming with that system is a new video card.

Why put more money into DDR400 RAM now when it will be useless to the OP come upgrade time? A good $300 PCI-E video card will be far more useful down the road a bit.

The sales person said new processor because he'll have to sell you new RAM (DDR2) and a new motherboard (AM2 or C2D) to go with it. :wink:

@ ak47is1337, where the hell have you been?

I never said the money would be better spent on RAM, I just stated that I do believe another gig of ram would make a difference.
December 22, 2006 9:36:44 PM

But what would make more of a difference?
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2006 10:06:32 PM

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But what would make more of a difference?


goign from 1 gig to 2gigs made a night and day difference for me.
and going from 2gigs back to 1gig sucks.

i did it to make 2 computers.

the 6800 is a good OLDER card i have 2 68gt,s.
use to have them in sli but split them up for the other computer.

my 68gt,s in sli score 10000 in 3dmark05 max.
if you look at cleeves sig youll see he has a single x1900
that scores the same.
that is just a video benchmark but it gives you an idea of the difference.
December 22, 2006 10:11:18 PM

3dmark benchmarks and real life gaming are completely different.
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2006 10:18:04 PM

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that is just a video benchmark but it gives you an idea of the difference


duh thats why i said this.
December 22, 2006 10:23:49 PM

haha sorry im out of it today. :D 
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2006 10:35:38 PM

yeah it kinda sucks i paid 300 frogskins for my first 68gt
over a year ago and 140frogskins for my second 68gt about 6 months
or more ago. and can get a 79 series gpu or an ati x1900 gpu
for under 200 frogskins that will perform as good or better than
the 68gt,s in sli.
December 22, 2006 10:44:56 PM

go ahead and spend about $100 bucks now on a 7600 gt video card ,thats should work well for awhile and save for a future upgrade (dx 10)or new computer system
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2006 10:47:17 PM

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go ahead and spend about $100 bucks now on a 7600 gt video card ,thats should work well for awhile and save for a future upgrade (dx 10)or new computer system


the bad thing about that is there wont be any performance
increase.
December 22, 2006 10:49:06 PM

Or you can just go for the x1950xt like cleeve said.
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2006 10:52:44 PM

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I was wondering if anyone can recommend some upgrade options for my aging A8N SLI deluxe setup.

Currently I have a Leadtek 6800 with an AMD 3000+ processor 1 gig of ram.

I would like to know if there are any decent choices for me within the 300-400 $$$ range. I plan to upgrade my proc as well but I'm not sure what I should do first.

Sales person I was talking to said I should probably get a proc as the Socket 939 is on the way out, and I can always find a good PCI-E card.

Thoughts?



one thing to think about is.
go for the gpu upgrade, but wait atleast 1 month maybe 2

for the cpu go for a dual core s939.

this should be around the 400$ range for both.

the initial test results for the amd 65nm cpu,s
suggest that they arent that much faster than
s939 or am2 cpu,s now.
December 22, 2006 10:53:50 PM

you dont think that a 7600gt will be way better than a 6800?
December 22, 2006 10:55:49 PM

It all depends if you need to upgrade now. If not wait, if you do dont wait.
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2006 10:57:20 PM

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you dont think that a 7600gt will be way better than a 6800?


they are about equal.

except the 76gt uses less power.
and less memory.
and at 100$

that is what makes the 76gt so good

but for gaming they are pretty close.
i have 2 68gt,s, my brother and some freinds have the 76gt,s.
i have played with them all.
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2006 11:00:39 PM

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It all depends if you need to upgrade now. If not wait, if you do dont wait.


yes what im trying to say go for the dualcore cpu now.

as the s939 are getting scarce.

and prices and availabilty for gpu cards will change in the next month or 2.
December 22, 2006 11:01:04 PM

according to the thg vga chart it shows 7600 gt and 6800 gt not reg 6800 and in half life bench it beats it pretty good and that the gt. not the plain version he says he has
a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2006 11:08:57 PM

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according to the thg vga chart it shows 7600 gt and 6800 gt not reg 6800 and in half life bench it beats it pretty good and that the gt. not the plain version he says he has


maybe but in cod2, bf2, fear, oblivion, f.s.x
and a few other games i dont see any difference.

im saying that the 76gt is not worth 100$
not from a 6800.

there will be little difference in gaming.

well not 100$ worth.
December 23, 2006 12:49:17 AM

I would not recommend going too far into any one component at this stage, for 300-400 and notice a difference try this combination:

GeForce 7900GT 256M $239.99 rebate to $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Raptor WD360ADFD 36.7GB $104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Athlon 64 4000+ $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Total: $424 AR $384

I would not recommend a ram upgrade yet due to DDR2 used in all newer systems so you will not get your money back. Make sure you have a PS to handle all the additional power also.
a b U Graphics card
December 23, 2006 1:18:22 AM

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I would not recommend going too far into any one component at this stage, for 300-400 and notice a difference try this combination:

GeForce 7900GT 256M $239.99 rebate to $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Raptor WD360ADFD 36.7GB $104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Athlon 64 4000+ $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Total: $424 AR $384




I would not recommend a ram upgrade yet due to DDR2 used in all newer systems so you will not get your money back. Make sure you have a PS to handle all the additional power also.


why the raptor?
December 23, 2006 6:18:52 AM

The hard drive is a common bottleneck in a majority of computers due to the relatively fast speed of the CPU and GPU, almost all applications and games are hungry for data be it textures, data files, sound, video, etc. so having a faster hard drive will minimize the wait time for data to be located and loaded. I recommend it for your system because you can always tranfer it to a newer system and still have the same top of the line performance.
a b U Graphics card
December 23, 2006 2:22:26 PM

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The hard drive is a common bottleneck in a majority of computers due to the relatively fast speed of the CPU and GPU, almost all applications and games are hungry for data be it textures, data files, sound, video, etc. so having a faster hard drive will minimize the wait time for data to be located and loaded. I recommend it for your system because you can always tranfer it to a newer system and still have the same top of the line performance.


i know but for the price its not worth it.
December 23, 2006 3:25:52 PM

I guess what you have to decide is how long before your next system upgrade.
If you are looking to keep the same system for 2 more years then I would upgrade to a dual core processor first ( The new AM2 socket isn't that much faster than the 939 and its best to get the processor before they stop selling them). A 4800+ is almost on par with the 5000+ AM2 and can be had for under $300 easy.

If you are looking to upgrade now and get a new system in a year or so get the ram now to make it run faster and a lower end DirectX 10 card that you can transfer to your new system later (I am sure they will have less expensive cards come out in another 4-6mos. they always bring out the high end first then make the cheaper ones for the rest of us). If you buy a new system in a year you will probably want vista and a directX 10 card for the eye candy.
Just my 2cents hope it helps.
December 24, 2006 1:42:00 AM

Sure the hard drive is worth the money, especially if you are looking for performance. A new GPU will give you speed in games and 3D rendering, if you do that kind of stuff, a new processor will help you in all areas up to a certain point, but a fast hard drive will improve almost all aspects of your computer, faster boot, faster installs, faster game load times, faster application access, etc. no other component except maybe a RAM upgrade from 512 to 1 gig can give you that noticable difference in everything that you do.
a b U Graphics card
December 24, 2006 1:45:34 AM

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Sure the hard drive is worth the money, especially if you are looking for performance. A new GPU will give you speed in games and 3D rendering, if you do that kind of stuff, a new processor will help you in all areas up to a certain point, but a fast hard drive will improve almost all aspects of your computer, faster boot, faster installs, faster game load times, faster application access, etc. no other component except maybe a RAM upgrade from 512 to 1 gig can give you that noticable difference in everything that you do.


a 36gig hdd at 10000rpm for 100$

ill take a 250gig hdd at7200rpm for the same price
December 24, 2006 6:18:14 AM

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I guess what you have to decide is how long before your next system upgrade.
If you are looking to keep the same system for 2 more years then I would upgrade to a dual core processor first ( The new AM2 socket isn't that much faster than the 939 and its best to get the processor before they stop selling them). A 4800+ is almost on par with the 5000+ AM2 and can be had for under $300 easy.

If you are looking to upgrade now and get a new system in a year or so get the ram now to make it run faster and a lower end DirectX 10 card that you can transfer to your new system later (I am sure they will have less expensive cards come out in another 4-6mos. they always bring out the high end first then make the cheaper ones for the rest of us). If you buy a new system in a year you will probably want vista and a directX 10 card for the eye candy.
Just my 2cents hope it helps.

I agree with Finneus...Go dual core 939 while you can still get one..will slip right in your MB....wait for DX10 Mid Range cards.Dual core's make your rig run very smooth!
December 26, 2006 2:34:14 PM

@ak47is1337 I wasn't questioning your reply, I was asking where you've been. I haven't seen you post in awhile.
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