Dammit Dammit Dammit, Newegg sold out.

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Thanks

Low latency?? How's 46.5ns,that is with OCZ's 3500 gold xtc [ddr]@ 2.5,2,2,5.
Try it you'll like it....

I'm looking for 2.2.2.5 or lower, but thanks. I was going for some platinum elites, 2.2.2.6 but the 6 is not sitting well with me.

just a thought, try super talent, I don't know how good their regular ddr is, but I timed some my ram @ 840 to 3-3-3-5 stable

Don't. SuperTalent isnt some kind of wonderful company that will produce they best possible modules in every situation. They simply added a truck load of highly binned chips in some of their DDR2 (not even all of them) modules.

okay, as I said, I can't say for the regular ddr

why not just by that and lower the latency and up the voltage? I did that with my ram and works fine, I got some cheap 2.5-3-3-8 to run @ 2-2-2-8 (corsair value ram) on my old athlon 3000

Edit: buy not by

South Africa's power supply is prone to some nasty spikes so i want something rated for maximum performance at a low voltage so if the spanner hits the turbine (it actually happened recently and all of Capetown was unpowered for quite some time) my pc will survive. SO i will pay the extra to have something that will survive, you need extra tough stuff if you want it to work here, eskom(the power company) is very good at taking out laptop screens, 2 of my bro's died and a few friends' too. Not sure if i am correct about this but better to err on the side of caution.

okay.......
Just get some corsair xms, the platinum heatspreaders are pretty good quality and I believe that runs @ 2-2-2-5 or something low like that

That DFI board you mention can be found via Froogle at a few different lesser known vendors. Too bad DFI makes the only AM2 Crossfire board with three PCI slots.

true, but I have a crosshair that I absolutely love that has three pci slots, only problem is that it is nvidia, but it offers the best ocing you can get with am2, becauseI have pushed my x2 4000 to the limits on air (almost 3ghz) because the architecture maxes out @ 3.1/3.2 ghz. But I will be doing a review on super talent soon using my crosshair board, so if you want, youcould wait and see the results I have gotten with it (they are actually pretty impressive for the 250 I paid for the ram)

For the power supply issue i recommend a UPS.

I'm going 939, for an fx 57, So AM2 is not happening for me unfortunately.

About the ups, good idea but i keep telling my friend how gay his ups is so i am going to look like such a hypocrite.

UPS? united postal sevice? didn't know they made a psu

Uninterruptable powersupply   Has a small fusion generator inside it so dropping it is a no no.


NOT FOR SALE IN IRAN.

fx-57? either get a 55 (already has unlocked mult, and you won't take advantage of a 14x mult anyway, you'll end up lowering it) or an x2 4800, that ocs to 3ghz easy or an fx-60 if you must have unlocked mults

Here is some CAS 1.5 stuff from Geil

One Series 2X512 1.5 - 2 - 2 - 5

ChiefValue has prices that compare with the egg in many respects.

This is kind of a last hail to single core so i am getting the fastest single cpu, fastest ddr1 and best 939 motherboard and maybe an x1950 to be later supplemented with an r600

If newegg still has it by next week will get the geil but i am in poland right now so i cannot do anything which sucks ass, i came here for a nice white cristmas and there is no bloody snow and now i am being prevented from getting my pc, bloody east europe.

have fun, but don't say I didn't worn you, because you will be kicking yourself for not getting dual core-- later on when more multi threaded apps become available with vista

I know i am being a bit of a dumbass but i can always just get and fx 60, when(if) it drops to $300

I hate to break it to you, but all the fx are being phased out, and will be gone within a few months, possibly even weeks (I'm surprised they're not gone already), but the fx-60 will never reach 300, its now or never, because they will be in shotr supply and the price will rise again

Also, the fx-60 is the last and only amd dual core for 939 with unlocked mults, so I personally would jump on the opportunity, better yet jump on it

eeh I tought you had the CPU already, which you had gotten for free/very cheap...

Nope, still gotta get all the parts, just want to make sure i can get it all at once, and it is likely that i ahve wasted all your time cause i ahve been planning on a new pc for a year already and now when i get back i nedd to get hold of one of my friends who has relatives in america so i can send the parts there so they can send them to SA as newegg does not ship outside the USA. I want my bloody PC!!! Unfortuntely this year i won't get to use it much cause i am taking more subjects than before so i just want it over and done with so i can use a non laggy non shit pc.

alright, this is probably one of the few times anyone'll ever here me say this, but get a conroe (gasp) 8O , if you want a non-laggy pc, you can get an e6400 with a rd600 and some super talent or ocz ram that will push you to 4ghz

As for shipments, worst come worst, you can always tell ups to ship it a site then forward it to be shipped to south africa

Can't afford that...   , but as for avoiding intel  .

(sorrry about the sh*tey spelling on the last post.)

Gimme a solid budget on USD, ill make you be able to afford it hehe

afford the shipping or the conroe set (I too own an amd system). Worst come worst, just find a member that lives in the new england region on the atlantic coast, and have it shipped to him, the overall shipping cost will be the least in that case

dario......what are you up to this time :wink:

Listen to this person! I am still regretting buying an FX55 two years ago. If I had just gotten an x2 4800, I would not currently be considering a dual core CPU upgrade right now. Dammit, dammit, dammit. :?

exactly, don't ever buy the top of the line older modles, your better off with a midrange newer modle

I know dual core is the way to go but i am still getting the fx 57, no point trying to argue that against me, but i know dual / multi core is the way to go but i cannot afford a good dual ( i know a crappy dual is better than a good single) core, i spend 7 rand per dollar and i want a top model so i am going for this cpu. 64 bit was the thing when i got my last pc but it did not last, so i might as well go for an fx as it is the only time i will ever get a crack at one. My pc will not last and i know that. Dual core will not last long either it will be replaced by multi core. SMP is only efficient at 100+ processors so dual core apps have limited life like everything else. I am going for the best of the worst.

The only place I can get my parts sent is unfortunately Kentucky. Please don't kill my dream.  

I am also going to clock the crap out of this thing.

well see, its all in a matter of what you need from your cpu, for instance when I went am2, I had the choice between an fx-62 or a cheaper processor. So what I did was get the x2 4000 (same core, 2mb lv2 cache, only difference was the 10 and unlocked multipliers) so what I did, was using the money I saved, I bought a very high quality motherboard (best am2 one on the market-asus crosshair) and some quality ram that takes me above 500 mhz with tight timings of 4-4-3-8 or to almost 1200 mhz with looser timings. Then because I had the quality parts, I clocked my x2 4000 to almost 3ghz (I am hitting a wall @ 2.95 because I have air cooling   ) and it beats the fx-62 in benchmarks, and about ties the e6700 at stock. So what I am trying to say is that if your computer will get fried because of the power problems in South Africa, why not get something like a 4800 and oc the hell out of it to 3ghz and beyond, that will be faster than your 57 and is dual core

Good point.

you know, you could always get a 3800 or a 4400 (has the larger cache, otherwise just get the 4200) and save some money for a water loop, you can get a pretty cheap loop for just the cpu for less than 100 US money. That will allow you to push even a 3800 to above 3ghz with temp problems

I'll go for what i can get, the fact that cpu now matters for gpu means i need the fastest.

whatever, I tried, if you want to blow off money and be disappointed because the x2's have the same amount of transistors per core and overclock just as high, be my guest

You will need a physx card for many games now if you still have a single core, but the second core of a dual core can double as one actually saving your money, not to mention even in single threaded apps, you won't bog down your cpu as much with a dual core, you will relieve your gpu of some stress

Didn't know that so 4800 here i come, just newegg has none. Ewiz has none. Chiefvalue has none either.

Can't find the damn thing anywhere.

If anyone sees one for about $300 please let me know.

well, newegg has the am2 model for only $234, have you already bought the motherboard and stuff? Because if you haven't, I totally recommend the asus crosshair, thats what I'm running (damn, I wish I had waited for the 4800 to come down now). And I bought some super talent ram for 250 (had a rebate) that is running better than my previous dominator

here's a last shot, ebay, not bad actually
http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-Athlon-64-X2-4800-Dual-Core-CPU...
there is also another one ending in a day that is 300, but I don't think the price will go up on that one because the others are cheaper, but have many bids and this doesn't (possibly no one else will bid, so you could bid 301 and win)
http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-Athlon-X2-4800-Toledo-Socket-93...

sorry, I wish I had told you this like a month ago when stores still had the x2 4800, but the 4400 isn't bad either (if you can find it)

There's still the option of an Opteron dual core. I think they seem to be more available than their X2 equivalents and mostly seem to be similiarly priced (well, they are in the UK, anyway) as well as being a higher quality cpu.

You could get an Opteron 185 which is the same clock as the FX-60, although it doesn't have the unlocked multiplier, it should overclock well. That being said, I think you would get better value going for a 170 or 175 as they are meant to overclock really well too.

I shuda remember that, get the 170, it offers the best overclocking, and is cheaper (I think the 185 is 2.4 not 2.6, but either way, its too expensive)

i can't get my 4800+ past 2.7 stable. cant even get it to boot at 2.8. where did you see 3ghz?

I can afford the 180 so i will go for that but what is the difference between the 180 and 185(apart from the 200mhz)
?

you got a bad stepping then, a couple of sites have pushed it to 3.13 ghz. And 2.7, thats kinda pathetic for a 4800, how much voltage are you using? Because I keep my 4000 (am2 version of the 3800 with twice the cache) to 2.95 with only 1.4 vcore and it runs benches and everything. I actually could probably push 3ghz if I wanted, but since I use air cooling, I am afraid of pushing more than 1.48 volts (that is how I got to 2.97)

nothing, get the 170, buy a nice mobo and ram with the money saved. People take the optys to about the same, the mult makes no difference

I think i am just going to get an fx 60, it is the only "4800" in stock. I can already afford the mobo and ram so cpu can go up to fx 60 price i have $2800 of which i want to use about 1400

400 cpu
400 gpu
200 mobo
200 ram
200 hdd (raptor)
rest 100, i can get it for that over in SA).

well lets put it this way...im not worried about temps with my case. it pushes 636cfm. as for my processor, all i remember is that its an athlon x2 4800+ (1.4vcore stock).

right now it's at 1.46 and it idles 26C. full load it runs at 40C. as for my motherboard, it's an asus a8n32-sli deluxe. memory is OCZ gold gamer 2gb dual channel kit

raise vcore to 1.48