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Just got my Brand spanking new X1950 PRO!!! weeeee

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December 23, 2006 12:46:50 PM

Major upgrade from a 6800 gs, wouldn't you say?
3dmark06=4594@1280*1024!!!!!

Paired with an E6400+1gig ram ddr400+Asrock dual vsta with pci-e@4x.

I should have got this:


but instead I got this:


The ati's reference design with a msi sticker on the fan.
I was expecting a dual slot design. Kinda dissapointed on that. Other picture on web, other card in the box. They shouldn't do that.

But can't really compain. This thing Rocks!!! I can even play NFS:Carbon@1280*1024 with all settings at full.Couldn't even play it @640*480 before!!!!

So to sum it all up: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
December 23, 2006 1:36:42 PM

Meh... I was trying to buy one of those but they aren't available here. F*ck East Europe... I got a 7900GT instead.
Not bad but I wanted ATI.
December 23, 2006 2:01:27 PM

Nice

I ordered mine, will get it on Thursday.

I bought the Sapphire X1950 pro 512mb version

http://www.sapphiretech.com/uk/products/products_overvi...


I originally had a XFX 7800 GS extreme...so I sold it for £160 after using it for the last 4 months and bought the ati x1950 pro for the same price :D  :D 

will let u know how it runs :) 
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December 23, 2006 2:10:35 PM

Most excellent! Please run a benchmark before you exchange the cards and run it again afterwards - and don´t forget to post the results. Thanks! :) 
December 23, 2006 2:11:02 PM

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Meh... I was trying to buy one of those but they aren't available here. F*ck East Europe... I got a 7900GT instead.
Not bad but I wanted ATI.


I'm from greece, thats kinda east/south!

Well, we have plenty here! And they are cheaper than 7900gs. 7900gs are still@210 euros. Bought the MSI/ATI@180 euros!!

Right now, I'm playing oblivion. I've waited for this day to arrive!! I knew that oblivion wasn't playable with my old gfx.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeee
December 23, 2006 2:23:09 PM

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F*ck East Europe...


I'm from greece, thats kinda east/south!


Greece isn't considered "east europe" even if it's south/east.

East EU is Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova. And they are a little behind technologically speaking ;) 

Anyway, do benchmark please, post results here. I'm curious what that card can do !
December 23, 2006 2:23:50 PM

Is it really important to let everyone know you got a new card, it's not like they are in short supply or super fast or even new.
December 23, 2006 2:26:41 PM

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Is it really important to let everyone know you got a new card, it's not like they are in short supply or super fast or even new.


Maybe they're not in short supply in US, but they are quite rare in EU.
+ it's currently the best performance/cost ratio card out there.

(at least until G84,G86 come out...)
December 23, 2006 2:29:55 PM

I can't! I sold the other card already. :oops: 

I have the score from 3dmark06 for 6800gs@1024x768 = 1502 3DMarks

1950 PRO 256mb@1280x1024 = 4594 3DMarks

I will run 1024x768 and compare

*update!
1950 PRO 256mb@1024x768 = 5258 3DMarks
December 23, 2006 2:33:07 PM

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Is it really important to let everyone know you got a new card, it's not like they are in short supply or super fast or even new.


Well in US they might be in all stores for months. Here we are kinda slow. For me it's a great step forward.
If you don't like my thread pls go away and don't post here. Nobody forces you to post.
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December 23, 2006 3:01:31 PM

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This thing Rocks!!! I can even play NFS:Carbon@1280*1024 with all settings at full.Couldn't even play it @640*480 before!!!!

Yeah, the X19xx's really shine in NFS:Carbon. Here is a review, where you can see the X1950 pro crushes the 7950GT and the X1800XT in that game. It more than doubles what the 7900GS can do. I just upgraded from a X1800XT to a X1950XT and the difference in NFS: Carbon was huge(just like in that review).

Enjoy the card, stinks you didn't get the nice cooler though.
December 23, 2006 4:59:35 PM

And just where the hell in eastern europe are you? no x1950pro avilable on the market? Are you in Prednestrovskaia or something?
December 23, 2006 5:25:16 PM

Well they sure are plentiful here in the UK.
December 24, 2006 8:06:22 AM

That plus legal hookers..
December 24, 2006 8:50:27 AM

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That plus legal hookers..


mmm hookers are good!
December 24, 2006 8:52:29 AM

Quote:

The ati's reference design with a msi sticker on the fan.
I was expecting a dual slot design. Kinda dissapointed on that. Other picture on web, other card in the box. They shouldn't do that.


I had exactly the same experience with exactly the same card. I bought it for my nephew's PC, expecting to see the much quieter 2 slot cooling solution.... But I got the single slot. So I won't be buying my X1950Pro from MSI when I upgrade in a couple of weeks!

(Or maybe I will.... Anyone recommend a good after-market heat-pipe cooling solution for an X1950Pro?)
December 24, 2006 9:15:30 AM

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The ati's reference design with a msi sticker on the fan.
I was expecting a dual slot design. Kinda dissapointed on that. Other picture on web, other card in the box. They shouldn't do that.


I had exactly the same experience with exactly the same card. I bought it for my nephew's PC, expecting to see the much quieter 2 slot cooling solution.... But I got the single slot. So I won't be buying my X1950Pro from MSI when I upgrade in a couple of weeks!

(Or maybe I will.... Anyone recommend a good after-market heat-pipe cooling solution for an X1950Pro?)

Well I had a choice of two. Go MSI or Gecube. Gecube had a fan blowing the opposite direction (into the case) and isn't a certified ati partner anymore (so I've heard) which means normal ATI catalyst drivers won't work with it. Had I known that it wasn't the dual slot design maybe I would have waited till after xmas. But then again the reference cooler seems to do the job, 35*C idle, 54*C full load. It's a little audible, more than my other fans. I will consider a different cooler solution later on. Or maybe I'll just sell it when midrange DX10 cards arrive and theres a sufficient DX10 games out there to make it worth it. I estimate September 2007. Agh so much to decide. Well better shut up and go win a couple of races at carbon. (I suck at downhill drift, need a better car)
December 24, 2006 9:47:27 AM

okay im not trying to start somthing here... but shouldnt you be happy that you got a single slot instead of a dual slot? i suppose it shouldnt matter that much to you...

anyways kudos to you !!

i always wanted a ati card but somehow always landed with a nvida 0.o

btw your 3d06 isnt much lower than mine tho you seem to have the more better setup?

my setup is in signature

and i got 6290 at 2.66ghz ( cpu) 570 core 1380 mem
December 24, 2006 10:44:56 AM

I bought the sapphire version, its got a single slot cooler.

Haven't got it yet, so when i do i'll let you know what the cooling is like.
December 24, 2006 12:42:26 PM

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okay im not trying to start somthing here... but shouldnt you be happy that you got a single slot instead of a dual slot? i suppose it shouldnt matter that much to you...

anyways kudos to you !!

i always wanted a ati card but somehow always landed with a nvida 0.o

btw your 3d06 isnt much lower than mine tho you seem to have the more better setup?

my setup is in signature

and i got 6290 at 2.66ghz ( cpu) 570 core 1380 mem


maybe my cpu is a little better than yours, but my m/b has a pci-e 4x, not 16x. I'm guessing I'm losing around (guesstimate) 800 points in 3dmark06.

Well I was kinda pissed off from the fake photos. Also believed that a dual slot cooler would cool even better, but observing the temps, I guess stock cooling is just as good.

Your score (6290) is in what resolution?
December 24, 2006 12:47:53 PM

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I bought the sapphire version, its got a single slot cooler.

Haven't got it yet, so when i do i'll let you know what the cooling is like.


pls do!
Also 3dmark06 scores pls! Both 1280x1024 and 1024x768.
and your system specs.
December 24, 2006 8:21:36 PM

the res is always in 1280x1024 isnt it? unless you got the pro version. yeah im reallly sure its 6290..


but how can you only have a pci-e 4x? its ether agp or pci 16x.. i havent found one that is only 4x 0.o

anyways waht i was trying to say was that your setup shoulda killed mine!

and could you please post a pic of your mobo? very interesting it supports conroe but no pcie x16

do you want me to run it in 1024x 768 as well?
December 24, 2006 8:43:43 PM

The asrock dual VSTA mobo can be found here

it has a full agp and a pci-e@4x.
not to mention dirt cheap. It allowed me to keep my old drr400 and my psu.
it doesnt o/c well but it's been rock solid so far!

Well I coulda had better results, but I'll need some high quality DDR2-800 and a p965 m/b. can't afford any of these right now.
December 24, 2006 9:07:30 PM

i have to wonder...

with dx10 coming out, everyone know's that for new games they'll need a dx10 card.

rather than spending 300$ on one of these, why got grab the 400$ gts 8800...

that way you wont be stuck paying for the switchover to the dx10 cards so soon....?
December 25, 2006 2:59:43 AM

and i suppose you know when and what GOOD games are gonna be out?

oh would you be my god and tell me how to eat my porridge as well ==''

let them spend their money there on way. hell they couldve been advised by the very best compu geek in the universe to buy a dx7 and been told to oc it to 2ghz and hardmod it.

also, ddnt you read that it has pcie x4? if the x1950 pro gets bottlenecked wth would you think of would have happend with the 8800 series?

ain the r600 coming out? maybe he was using this card as a temp until the r600 comes out!

god...


if you want to start a flame war... i have more than one lighter and 20000+ gallons of nitrogen.
December 25, 2006 8:01:24 AM

like I said, I'm planning to keep this card till summer, assuming there are enough dx10 games to justify the upgrade. I will try to get a proper m/b and some ddr2 ram till then. Not all of us can afford 450$ for a gfx. I would get the midrange dx10 (when they do come out).
December 25, 2006 8:39:35 AM

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and i suppose you know when and what GOOD games are gonna be out?


World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade MMORPG 16-Jan-2007
Limbo of the Lost Adventure 23-Jan-2007
Sabotage FPS 26-Jan-2007
Arthur and the Minimoys Action/Adventure 26-Jan-2007
Europa Universalis III Strategy 26-Jan-2007
Charlotte's Web Action/Adventure 26-Jan-2007
Beer Tycoon Strategy 26-Jan-2007
Little Britain the Video Game Entertainment 26-Jan-2007
Black Buccaneer Action/Adventure 02-Feb-2007
Tortuga: Two Treasures Action/Adventure 09-Feb-2007
Maelstrom Strategy 09-Feb-2007
UFO: Afterlight Strategy 09-Feb-2007
Genesis Rising: The Universal Crusade Strategy 09-Feb-2007
Dead Reefs Adventure 09-Feb-2007
Test Drive Unlimited Racing 16-Feb-2007
Storm of War: Battle of Britain Simulator 16-Feb-2007
Ducati World Championship Racing 16-Feb-2007
Spellforce 2: Dragon Storm Strategy 16-Feb-2007
Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened Adventure 16-Feb-2007
World Series of Poker: Tournament of Champions Cards 20-Feb-2007
War Front: Turning Point Strategy 23-Feb-2007
Monster Madness: Battle For Suburbia Action 23-Feb-2007
Resident Evil 4 Action 23-Feb-2007
Half-Life 2: Episode Two FPS 23-Feb-2007
Dark Age of Camelot: Labyrinth of the Minotaur MMORPG 23-Feb-2007
Frontline: Fields of Thunder Strategy 23-Feb-2007
Winter Sports Sport 23-Feb-2007
Ship Simulator 2006 Add-On Simulator 23-Feb-2007
Chicken Little: Ace in Action Action 23-Feb-2007
The Sims 2: Seasons Simulator 23-Feb-2007

(just to name a few until FEBRUARY)
No idea if they are good or not, but lots of game ARE coming.

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if you want to start a flame war... i have more than one lighter and 20000+ gallons of nitrogen.


Nitrogen doesn't burn, you even BREATHE nitrogen, our atmosphere is 70% nitrogen...

It's nitrous-oxide that's used as a CATALYST for methane-gasoline compounds to add extra power to the overcharged engine.
December 25, 2006 9:01:11 AM

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if you want to start a flame war... i have more than one lighter and 20000+ gallons of nitrogen.

are u saying notrogen is flamable?
December 25, 2006 9:04:17 AM

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and i suppose you know when and what GOOD games are gonna be out?


World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade MMORPG 16-Jan-2007
Limbo of the Lost Adventure 23-Jan-2007
Sabotage FPS 26-Jan-2007
Arthur and the Minimoys Action/Adventure 26-Jan-2007
Europa Universalis III Strategy 26-Jan-2007
Charlotte's Web Action/Adventure 26-Jan-2007
Beer Tycoon Strategy 26-Jan-2007
Little Britain the Video Game Entertainment 26-Jan-2007
Black Buccaneer Action/Adventure 02-Feb-2007
Tortuga: Two Treasures Action/Adventure 09-Feb-2007
Maelstrom Strategy 09-Feb-2007
UFO: Afterlight Strategy 09-Feb-2007
Genesis Rising: The Universal Crusade Strategy 09-Feb-2007
Dead Reefs Adventure 09-Feb-2007
Test Drive Unlimited Racing 16-Feb-2007
Storm of War: Battle of Britain Simulator 16-Feb-2007
Ducati World Championship Racing 16-Feb-2007
Spellforce 2: Dragon Storm Strategy 16-Feb-2007
Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened Adventure 16-Feb-2007
World Series of Poker: Tournament of Champions Cards 20-Feb-2007
War Front: Turning Point Strategy 23-Feb-2007
Monster Madness: Battle For Suburbia Action 23-Feb-2007
Resident Evil 4 Action 23-Feb-2007
Half-Life 2: Episode Two FPS 23-Feb-2007
Dark Age of Camelot: Labyrinth of the Minotaur MMORPG 23-Feb-2007
Frontline: Fields of Thunder Strategy 23-Feb-2007
Winter Sports Sport 23-Feb-2007
Ship Simulator 2006 Add-On Simulator 23-Feb-2007
Chicken Little: Ace in Action Action 23-Feb-2007
The Sims 2: Seasons Simulator 23-Feb-2007

(just to name a few until FEBRUARY)
No idea if they are good or not, but lots of game ARE coming.

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if you want to start a flame war... i have more than one lighter and 20000+ gallons of nitrogen.


Nitrogen doesn't burn, you even BREATHE nitrogen, our atmosphere is 70% nitrogen...

It's nitrous-oxide that's used as a CATALYST for methane-gasoline compounds to add extra power to the overcharged engine.

lol, I didn't question that you didn't know when games are coming. Thanx for the list btw!!!! But are any of these games dx10???
December 25, 2006 9:23:32 AM

Is it worthwhile to pay the extra $$$ and get the 512mb version? Is it really that much faster?
December 25, 2006 9:39:42 AM

Me thinks they will be 9 and 10 compatible. Besides, it will be a long time before i upgrade to Vista, and in the meantime, the pro rocks.
December 25, 2006 9:44:57 AM

[[edit: the guy above posted while i was typing this so dnt complain]]

hahaha thanks for totally owning me, i meant propane/ethylene =P


or flamE-war-[gen] =D


haha

might i also ask where you got those games? also.. world series of poker? chiken little? 0.o yeah... 8800gtx ( s ) for those

im mainly interested on halflife 2 episode 2..

wth ? how do you know it will be dx10?
how does valve expect to sell it if almost 90% of people wont be able to run it? ( keeping in mind that gamers usually arent the first ones to jump to vista or any new os [ by microsoft])


heheh sorry for hijacking your thread... it had to be done



one more thing..

your saying that everyone should get a dx10 card now... when they can be waaaay cheaper in the future, when it is almost [[NEEDED]] for those games, that also require vista.

unless once again you can prove me wrong... which you prolly will

i dnt suppose those games can be backward compatible with dx9 ehh.?
December 25, 2006 9:58:06 AM

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Is it worthwhile to pay the extra $$$ and get the 512mb version? Is it really that much faster?

Video Card Memory Analysis: 256MB vs. 512MB
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So, should you buy a 512MB card? Probably, but you’ll have to look hard at the data in this article to decide that one for yourself. Personally if I were looking for a new video card to last me a few years I would not even consider a 256MB card. If you’re like me and seem to have a new card at least once a year or less, don’t worry too much, 256MB will do you fine.
December 25, 2006 11:08:21 AM

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Is it worthwhile to pay the extra $$$ and get the 512mb version? Is it really that much faster?


well....where i got it from the 256 mb version was selling for £158 and the sapphire 512 mb one was on a one week offer of £151 :)  sooooooo....i just took it. Plus compared with most other sites the 256 Mb version sells for around £149 any way. so who cares about £2 extra.

I just wanted a card i could use for another year or so till all the really good DX10 games came out and it was worth getting a DX10 card. Plus I needed to extra money to buy a new mobo and core 2 duo processor rather than buy the 8800 and have nothing to plug it into :lol: 
December 25, 2006 11:34:34 AM

I don't think that DX9.c will be going away anytime soon. How many gamers you think have upgraded their gfx to a 8800? Not even 0.1% globally. Most people will wait and see what happens just like me. People will buy the midrange line a lot more than upper supper line. There will be no exclusively dx10 game only. They will be backwards compatible.

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I just wanted a card i could use for another year or so till all the really good DX10 games came out and it was worth getting a DX10 card. Plus I needed to extra money to buy a new mobo and core 2 duo processor rather than buy the 8800 and have nothing to plug it into


same here!!!!!!

Also I'll wait about 9-12 months to upgrade to vista. That is until I'm satisfied that there are enough games+applications to justify the migration.
January 2, 2007 9:58:23 PM

iv finally finished building my system and tried it out on the 3dmark products.

my card: Sapphire X1950 pro 512Mb AGP


Old system: p4 2.5 ghz, 2gb DDR400, x1950 pro agp 4x

Results: 3dmark05 - 4806 (1024x768) , 3dmark06 - 3200 (1024x768)




New system: core 2 duo E6600 @stock speed, 2Gb DDR400, X1950 pro agp8x

Results: 3dmark05 - 10127 (1024x768) , 3dmark06 - 6070 (1024x768)


talk about a big difference thanx to the new processor.

If i get the time i'll test it out with the 1280X1024 and let u know how that turns out :) 

*Im happy with my results* :D  :D 
January 3, 2007 12:20:19 AM

What MoBo are you using for the C2D :?:
January 3, 2007 12:18:15 PM

Asrock 775dual-vsta (cause I had DDR1 memory and couldnt be bothered to get DDR2)
January 8, 2007 4:54:02 PM

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Asrock 775dual-vsta (cause I had DDR1 memory and couldnt be bothered to get DDR2)


why did you bought the agp version if you had this "godly" budget mobo? I have it as well and bought the pci-e version of the 1950 pro. pls post your 1280*1024 3dmark06 results.

I only have 1 gig ram, I'm beginning to think that another gig will make a big difference. maybe in a month or two, I'll go and buy some ddr2 ram.
January 8, 2007 8:10:02 PM

cause i bought the card before i had the money to get a mobo+cpu and my old mobo was agp only :roll:

i'll post the result....right after i test it out now..lol
January 8, 2007 8:31:50 PM

okay, at 1280x1024 i get a 3dmark06 score of 5092 points.

sm 2 score: 1901
sm 3 score: 2154
cpu score: 2093


Im pretty sure it can do better, but my ram is not very good :) 
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