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Hi, guys

I've just stand on the decision of building new Desktop for gaming. Hence, I came up with some odd questions. I am lacking of some important experiences because of long-time off reading. So, I post it here wait for someone mind sharing.

The "criteria" for system: Integrity (means as less of constraints as possible) and Efficiency. My Budget is about 700 - 800 (not include monitor and other peripherals), but I don't mind if the cost can reduce less than that. :D

1. Which system should I choose at current time, Intel or AMD, base on both price and performance relatively? It must be Quad core CPU. I prefer AMD, but I appreciate if someone give me some experiences about Intel as well. I see that Intel has just put up in the market the series i-x CPU, 32nm, but price is really high. I care about the performance compare to the price of similar AMD CPU. I still know that next week will be the advent of new AMD's motherboard chipset 8xx, is there any affection to the whole new performance of current AMD CPU like Phenom II X4 Deneb 955...
2. Do I need overclock, consideration on basis of relation between cost and performance of system? If yes, what should I need to care about the cooling system as well? It is not good idea if I spent too much on cooling overclocking system and the result received is just 5 - 10% increased in clock-rate, not on the whole system performance.
3. I need experiences on choosing motherboard thereof. Brand, chipset. Why is so much different in price of mainboard with the same type of North and South Bridge chipset? In my opinion this is the most important component of system, ensuring for Integrity.
4. For Integrity of the system, should I use graphic Card ATI or NVIDIA? Which one is better for game? What should I choose if I used AMD system? Are there any other option? (I like to play Role Playing Game, with highest quality for Resolution about 1600x900)
5. Is there anything I should pay attention on choosing RAM?
6. Are there anything else?

So, I am eager of waiting reply from pro-guys. Thank you so much for spending time answer my question.
 

greenfield

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Hi: Well AMD processors are currently at a performance disadvantage
to Intel processors, although AMD processors are also less expensive
than Intel processors, so you may lose 5-10% performance, but drop
20-30% off the price. Based on that, I would suggest AMD if you don't
have a fortune to spend.

Regarding the video card,I would suggest An a Radeon HD 4870 or ATI 5770 Based on your budget and needs

For Motherboard I suggest :

MSI NF750-G55 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
DDR3, 2Way & Hybrid SLI rdy w/ dual PCIE 2.0x 16

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130235


OR:

BIOSTAR TA790GXE 128M AM2+/AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
140W TDP, AM3, CrossFire X ready, HDMI w/ Radeon VGA

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138146



HDD :
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284



Case:
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137


CPU:
AMD Athlon II X4 630 Propus 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103704


PSU:

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ700SXS 700W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341019

OR:

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
Voted 2009 Best Power Supply Manufacturer by Custom PC Magazine

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&Tpk=Corsair%20TX%20650



RAM:

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3RPR16004GK - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227320


DVD :

Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118030&Tpk=Sony%20Optiarc%20AD-7240S-0B%20Black%20SATA%2024X%20DVD%20%2f%20CD%20B

Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240s-0B -OEM


Finally: You should give the following URL a Spin for more useful hint:

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2164

bon courage..

 

quanghuan

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Thanks for your suggestion, Greenfield.

Is there any different in mainboards between 790GX chipset and 790FX chipset, beside the onboard video card? Why do we have to use such a "big" case like this? Do we need extra cooler device for entire system? Can I use Phenom II X4 Deneb 2.8 ($139) instead, if so, what type of motherboard should I use? I notice there is some type of mother board that support specific for (ex: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130228 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130223R ). Is there alternatives of Intel System instead?

Please help me to answer those question once.

Thank you so much for reading and spending time for reply.
 

greenfield

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Hi: 790FX vs 790GX:

http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=100977


http://www.motherboards.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=716174&sid=c378e7fa9ce0bb76fefc60a64d2fd356

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27108588

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/cpus-motherboards/19155-790fx-vs-790gx.html



Good Motherboard:

ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Xtreme Design w/ CrossFireX, DDR3 1800(limit 5 per customer)
1x Winner of Customer Choice Award - AMD Motherboards

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131402&cm_re=Asus_M4A79xtd_Evo-_-13-131-402-_-Product


Or:

MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
DDR3, true 3 way SLI ready w/ triple PCIE 2.0x 16

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130236&Tpk=MSI%20NF980-G65%20Motherboard


system with :

AMD Phenom II x4 925 OC-3.0
Corsair 750watt PSU
XFX HD 5770
4GBs Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600
Asus M4A79xtd Evo
500gb WD
Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240s-0B -OEM
Windows 7 64bit
1680x1050



In regard to cooling: a better cooling is really good for your entire system
especially if you are a gamer


bon courage..