e6300 and e4300 C2D, what speeds can i hope 4?

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hi
upgrading pc in a few weeks, C2D e4300 is coming out Jan 21st so i will probably wait until then

I will be getting 1GB 667mhz Samsung Ram and the Gigabyte GA-965p-S3 as well.
i know the ram isnt the greatest but i cant afford Corsair/OCZ or any 800mhz ram :cry:
also i will be using the stock HSF

the e4300 with a 333FSB is ~3ghz and the ram will run it fine (is 3ghz to much to hope for?)
also if i got the e6300 how far do you think i could get it with those parts? how far do you think the ram will safely overclock too?
 

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If you are willing to pay for the e6300 its price is going to drop in late January and the e6400 will fall into it's place. The article that I read also rumored the the e6320 and e6420 (4mb cache versions) would be at the same pirce as their 2mb cache brethren at launch. With the e6400/e6420 you'll get the 8x multi and hit 3.2 with 400 fsb. I know on the 965-DS3 you should be able to select your memory to run at 667 in bios, and for the difference in price you might want those solid capacitors on the DS3.
 

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yea i assume you read the same or similar article as I did
i thought all the price drops and the 6x20 CPU's arent until Q2?
I cant really afford the DS3 board because its 40$ extra (Aus prices) and i dont really care about the solid state caps. i will have a new board by the time mine should die anyway

how much performance do you lose by running dividers and not a 1:1 FSB:RAM Ratio?
 

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Even if the E6400 reaches the E6300 price it still wont let you get 3Ghz. The very cheap E4300 (E4400 I believe its called now) is a much better choice for that overclocking goal.
 

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i know people that have the e6400 at ~3.5ghz and people with the e6300 @ ~3.3ghz, perfectly stable

the e4300 is the 1.8ghz chip coming out January 21st
the e4400 is 2ghz (10x multi) coming out in Q2
 

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i know people that have the e6400 at ~3.5ghz and people with the e6300 @ ~3.3ghz, perfectly stable
On Samsung 667 RAM?? ...Thought so.

the e4300 is the 1.8ghz chip coming out January 21st
the e4400 is 2ghz (10x multi) coming out in Q2
The E4400 was formely knowned as E4300, either way any E4x00 will do.
 

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so to get to ~3ghz with the e4300 how much voltage do you think ill have to add?
i heard the more voltage the more chance of failing?
 

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Even that the CPU isnt out yet, I would dare to say that 1.4v is going to be more than sufficient.
In case youre able to get over 333Mhz you should get a 650i mobo to run the memory slower than that.
 

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i think 333 will be enough

i will have read reviews on what speeds the get be4 i buy any way

can the Gigabyte GA-965p-S3 run dividers?
and am i correct to think that it OC's better than the Asus P5B?

If I wanted to go past 333 will the samsung ram OC far if i add voltage and increase timings if necessery?

and also what do you think is better, Samsung or Hyundai(Hynix)?
they are the same price

sorry for all the questions
 

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can the Gigabyte GA-965p-S3 run dividers?
and am i correct to think that it OC's better than the Asus P5B?
I believe not. Its comparable to the P5B Deluxe, but not the P5B vanilla.

If I wanted to go past 333 will the samsung ram OC far if i add voltage and increase timings if necessery?

and also what do you think is better, Samsung or Hyundai(Hynix)?
I would need to see the specs for both.
 

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ok ill stick with the 965p-S3

dw about the Hynix, i just checked and the store where im getting my parts from only have Hynix 533mhz

so ill stick with the Samsung

1 last question:
how much does an aftermarket cooler help with overclocks? how much extra speed am i likely to get with a good cooler such as the TT Big Typhoon VX?
i will be limited by the ram, but lets just say if i wasnt limited by the ram
 

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how much does an aftermarket cooler help with overclocks? how much extra speed am i likely to get with a good cooler such as the TT Big Typhoon VX?
i will be limited by the ram, but lets just say if i wasnt limited by the ram
For comfortable temps, it's about 100Mhz FSB.