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December 26, 2006 1:17:38 AM

I have a bit of money from Christmas and I could really use an upgrade in components. Now, what I'm asking may not be feasible (and that's part of the reason for asking).

My current system is:
P4 2.8 (Socket 478)
Abit IC7
1 GB of ram
2 Seagate 120 GB drives
Ati 9800XT

I think those are most of the pertinent specs.

What I would like to do is move to Socket AM2 or 775(preferably Core 2 Duo) (I'm not particular about Amd or Intel, whatever is the best bang for the buck)

To do that I will need a motherboard, Ram and a CPU. I have an MSI MX6600 PCI Express card (crap, but free!)

I have been on TigerDirect, Newegg, ZipZoomFly, MWave, Pricewatch, and I am just not really finding anything very good. (course, that may be because I am dreaming, but hey. . .)

Anyway the challenge is if anybody can come up with a decent group of stuff for 140.00 USD. If I'm insane and just need to save up more money, let me know.

The gauntlet is thrown. Good luck.


PS. I am a casual gamer. Will be mostly used for gaming and DVD creation.

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December 26, 2006 2:02:25 AM

if you mean 140.00 USD for all the stuff you need for an upgrade than yes, you are insane.
December 26, 2006 2:03:49 AM

Well, you are not going to get much for $140 at Newegg.

You could get an Asus M2V-TVM motherboard ($57.99) and an AMD Sempron 2800+ AM2 ($43) with a 512 stick of Corsair value ram ($53.99) Plus shipping. That is about as close as you are gonna get unless you want to drop the ram to 256MB.

The Motherboard is a Micro-atx board, the reviews are not stellar, but Asus is usually pretty good about fixing issues.

The processor may seem like a weakling, but those Semprons are known for 800 MHz+ overclocks. Though the board may not be capable of supporting that type of overclock, you should still be able to glean a couple hundred more Mhz out of it.
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December 26, 2006 2:04:11 AM

That's pretty much what I was coming up with so thanks for the confirmation. :) 
December 26, 2006 2:05:02 AM

no problem just save more money and go with c2d setup
December 26, 2006 2:08:57 AM

Hmm, didn't think about the Sempron's. That's not a bad idea because it still allows me to upgrade later. Thanks.
December 26, 2006 2:10:15 AM

Insane is an understatment if that price is in USD, get $300 atleast, then we can talk about a c2d or am2 rig. The components that you could for $140 would under perform the pc you have now.
December 26, 2006 2:11:12 AM

i was just gonna say it thanx :wink: :) 
December 26, 2006 2:16:31 AM

i don't think that you could really be satisfied with a $140 build honestly... you could get like the shittiest mobo with no features and a filler proc for a later upgrade... this may not be what you want to hear, but i'd say save: throw it in the bank and collect some "free money".
December 26, 2006 2:17:15 AM

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The components that you could for $140 would under perform the pc you have now.


You do have a point, I really didn't look at his original spec's.


I think a better idea would be to just invest the $140 in a high end motherboard. That way you can just buy the sempron and the memory later when you come across another $60-70 bucks. Then you can add a stick of ram later, then an x2 processor even later, and a SLI setup if you are interested in that sort of thing.
December 26, 2006 2:30:24 AM

Just save your money.
December 26, 2006 2:32:36 AM

One other thing, you didn't say what you would be using the computer for mostly. I take it PC Games because of your current video card?

I think your system isn't too moldy yet to be honest. Do you already have a DVD Burner and soundblaster X-Fi? Or maybe buy a nice mouse for gaming like the logitech G5 or a gaming keyboard?

Yes, I might recommend the RAM upgrade. I think 2GB is a good place to be at. Problem is DDR400 is not made anymore and the prices keep going up.

Maybe buy some new PC Games and peripheals for now and save you money for a new system when DX10 hits the mainstream.
December 26, 2006 2:51:41 AM

he did mention what the comp will be used for...

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PS. I am a casual gamer. Will be mostly used for gaming and DVD creation.
December 26, 2006 3:16:46 AM

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he did mention what the comp will be used for...

PS. I am a casual gamer. Will be mostly used for gaming and DVD creation.

Thanks for pointing that out, I obviously missed his postscript

What resolution do you run at and what games? I bet your system plays almost every game just fine with the possible excepton of oblivion.

If you really want to upgrade, you will be better off buying a compleletly new system when VISTA comes rolling out.

You'll need, like you said, new ram(DDR-2/3), video card (PCI-E), Possible DX10 compatiblity, CPU, Motherboard, Powersupply.

Keep your current system as a backup gaming rig and you could let you buddy use it when you play LAN or something.
December 26, 2006 3:26:51 AM

LambofGodE3X wrote:

Congrats on breaking 100 posts today :lol: 
December 26, 2006 4:49:45 AM

no problem about the pointing out thing, and thank you. i was quite happy about breaking 100 posts too. my next milestone is 1,000. :twisted: :D 

you bring up a good point...he should wait. amd is moving the release dates for their new processors up, and dx10 games are going to start appearing soon, so upgrading now would be kinda pointless. especially on that budget. i agree with cletus on this one.
December 26, 2006 5:39:23 AM

About as close as I can get is C2D 6300 with AGP motherboard. You could use your 9800XT and Ram. Here in Houston FRY'S has the Mobo and C2D6300 for $169.

Good Luck
December 26, 2006 5:58:05 AM

You don't need to upgrade that system. Better off with saving up that money and upgrade to a Core 2 Duo setup like everyone else suggested.
December 26, 2006 12:41:34 PM

Actually that's exactly what I want to hear. It's why I asked the question. I wasn't coming up with any kind of satisfactory results in my searches so I wanted to throw it out there and see if anyone had any brilliant ideas. The advice on these forums is generally really good and I thank all you people who jumped in for your advice.
December 26, 2006 12:44:41 PM

good luck with your money, whatever you chose to do with it! i hope this computer comes to fruition and pleases the hell out of you!
December 26, 2006 12:46:12 PM

I ran Oblivion and it really wasn't too bad. For resolution it depends on the game and what the card can handle. I run generally anywhere from 1024x768 up to 1280x1024. I was playing Gothic 3 (that's kinda choppy and I had to turn down the effects quite a bit) and Lego Star Wars 2 with my 6 year old(not really graphics intensive so that looks great). I would love to try out F.E.A.R. but I figure that should wait for a new system.
December 26, 2006 12:48:25 PM

Can you give me the model # for that motherboard? Is it one of those that has both AGP and PCI Express?
December 26, 2006 1:30:08 PM

Use the $140 to buy an 8-ball of crack

Smoke it

Hallucinate about all of the new stuff your now-uber computer has :) 
December 27, 2006 7:37:18 PM

Thanks for the constructive advice. :roll:
December 27, 2006 9:25:27 PM

invest it in china. just china in general. my uncle is insane, i have no clue what he does, he just "imports" and works with "clients...." its so funny, b/c he's rich and we have no clue what he does.... he just makes a bunch of money mysteriously....

anyway, point is, he had a 600% increase in stock. so invest in the exponentially growing china. if you can. plus that way your money isn't in the dollar, which apparently the world is deciding to hate about now. heh.

and that, my friends, is the vague investing advice of a young teenager. :D 
December 27, 2006 9:29:02 PM

invest money in a communist state, i think not 8)

anyway, this is a computers related forum, not an econ class. stick to the topic!
December 27, 2006 11:51:52 PM

Besides, India or Brazil would be a better, and more moral investment choice since they are both democratic.
December 28, 2006 12:15:45 AM

just cause they're communist doesn't mean a thing.... hell, if you had enough money in something big enough, you could like persuade them NOT to attack us or something... idk. anyway, yeah, i'll drop that then. not that i'm a pinko or anything. but communism and socialism and the likes are interesting to me to study... doesn't mean i wanna go through them.... anyway, good luck with the build!


.....600%.....
December 28, 2006 1:05:20 AM

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just cause they're communist doesn't mean a thing.... hell, if you had enough money in something big enough, you could like persuade them NOT to attack us or something... idk. anyway, yeah, i'll drop that then. not that i'm a pinko or anything. but communism and socialism and the likes are interesting to me to study... doesn't mean i wanna go through them.... anyway, good luck with the build!
.....600%.....

Are you Canadian? Just curious

1 us nuke would kill at least 50 million people in china.(placed well of course)
Not to mention the last major war they fought in(population was around 800 million in WW2) they got their asses kicked. At that time Chinese people outnumbered the Japanese 70;1 and yet the Japanese pushed far into china.
December 28, 2006 1:09:01 AM

i was about to make a racist comment about chinese genetaila but i think i'll resist as i don't like being called a racist :wink:

not that i like to think of the idea, but pretty much ANYWHERE you put a nuke in china its gonna do alot of damage. i'm not to keen on thermonuclear war or any of its reprecissions, so i like to pretend that we'll never see the use of nuclear weapons again. good luck with that one, huh?

p.s. NEGATIVE. i'm not canadian, although sometimes i wish i were. SOMETIMES. and then other times i feel patriotic and all that jazz, too.... don't judge me.... anyway, i actually live in one of the most conservative states...! heh, go figure. i don't try to put myself in any political box... but i'm not very far to the right, thats for sure.

alright, no more sidtracking. OP, good luck on your build! enjoy it for me!
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