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December 26, 2006 5:50:22 AM

I own a Sapphire radeon 9800pro 256mb and a BFG nvidia 6600GT OC 128mb.
brand and price aside, Which one is better?

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December 26, 2006 12:00:44 PM

6600GTs perform better than 9800Pros.

Especially the overclocked 6600GTs.
December 26, 2006 4:05:19 PM

They both have the same core.

The 6600 GT can be clocked higher than the 9800 Pro, so it's core perform better. BUT the 6600 GT has half the memory bandwidth, so the texture resolution would have to be pretty small, wich fits well because the 6600 GT has only 128MB so it would make sense for it to have less bandwidth than the 9800 Pro, wich is a high-end card.
Now the 6600 GT has GDDR3 while the 9800 Pro has DDR2, wich means that u can get the memory clocks a little higher, but the bandwidth will never be as high as the 9800 Pro's.

Since the core is what matters in performance, and the 6600 GT's core (due to it's higher clock speed) is 33% faster in comparison to the 9800 Pro, the 6600 GT is the clear winner, but dont expect to use very high textures and still get good performance.
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December 26, 2006 4:54:32 PM

Please explain in further detail what you mean when you say "They both have the same core."

Thanks
wes
December 26, 2006 5:07:53 PM

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They both have the same core.


WTF are you smoking? They most certainly do NOT have the same core. One card is made by Nvidia, and the other by ATI. Does anything remotely correct every come out of your mouth? If you don't know what you're talking about, then STFU!

To the OP: don't listen to this troll. He pops in every now and then to say something stupid. :roll:
December 26, 2006 5:39:42 PM

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They both have the same core.

I am at a loss for words.
a b U Graphics card
December 26, 2006 5:48:30 PM

LOL, wow. 8O
December 26, 2006 5:56:50 PM

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They both have the same core .


What?
December 26, 2006 5:58:33 PM

We need a volunteer-based troll patrol. Soon.
December 26, 2006 6:03:05 PM

After what I just read, damn right we do.
December 26, 2006 6:09:58 PM

This is sad...
December 26, 2006 6:18:28 PM

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They both have the same core.

The 6600 GT can be clocked higher than the 9800 Pro, so it's core perform better. BUT the 6600 GT has half the memory bandwidth, so the texture resolution would have to be pretty small, wich fits well because the 6600 GT has only 128MB so it would make sense for it to have less bandwidth than the 9800 Pro, wich is a high-end card.
Now the 6600 GT has GDDR3 while the 9800 Pro has DDR2, wich means that u can get the memory clocks a little higher, but the bandwidth will never be as high as the 9800 Pro's.

Since the core is what matters in performance, and the 6600 GT's core (due to it's higher clock speed) is 33% faster in comparison to the 9800 Pro, the 6600 GT is the clear winner, but dont expect to use very high textures and still get good performance.
This is why you shouldn't recommend hardware to ANYONE.
December 26, 2006 10:17:48 PM

YOU PEOPLE ARE RETARDS.

How the hell can the 9800 Pro and the 6600 GT have the same core?
Man, u ppl should have ur head examined!

OBVIOUSLY what i meant was their cores are abt the same.. freaking retards..

9800 Pro (R350 core) - 8 shader, 8 TMU, 4 Vertex
6600 GT (N43 core) - 8 shader, 8 TMU, 3 Vertex

I am emmbrassed to have anything to do with the lot of u.. :roll:
December 26, 2006 10:25:12 PM

I take anything Track says with a grain of salt, this is the third time he's been dead wrong.

And I quote: "They both have the same core." There's a big difference between "same core" and "cores with similar capabilities and resources".

Not flaming you Track, just be careful, we will bite you for FUD, even if it is accidental :twisted: .
a b U Graphics card
December 26, 2006 10:47:32 PM

According to his logic athlon 2.2=c2d 2.1
December 26, 2006 10:53:29 PM

You said this...
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They both have the same core.


you freakin moron. Not ABOUT the same.

You need your head examined to see if in fact there is anything in there.
All you do is give REALLY,REALLY bad advise, and try to make it seem like you know WTF you're talking about, when you CLEARLY don't. It's clear to me, and to all the regulars here. We know to ignore (or laugh) at what you say. Just STFU, and leave.
December 26, 2006 10:56:09 PM

The 6600GT also has SM3.0 support.

9800Pro has a 700MHz effective VRAM clock on a 256bit bus, while the 6600GT has a 1000MHz effective clock (assuming its not one of the many overclocked versions) on a 128bit bus.

This means the 9800Pro has ~40% more VRAM bandwidth

But given the 6600GTs much newer, SM3.0 compliant core, 31% faster GPU clock, the 6600GT will hammer it, as the benchmarks show.
December 26, 2006 10:58:05 PM

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YOU PEOPLE ARE RETARDS.

How the hell can the 9800 Pro and the 6600 GT have the same core?
Man, u ppl should have ur head examined!

OBVIOUSLY what i meant was their cores are abt the same.. freaking retards..


Who's the Retard? YOU were the one who said they had the same core. Now you offer excuses and flames for YOUR mistake! There used to be a saying that went, "Say what you mean and mean what you say". Obviously, you did neither.

All of us have probably made mistakes from time to time. I know I have. But its better to simply say "I screwed up", rather than to defend a mistake with flames toward others. Or is it so hard to admit a mistake?
December 26, 2006 11:03:11 PM

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YOU PEOPLE ARE RETARDS.

How the hell can the 9800 Pro and the 6600 GT have the same core?
Man, u ppl should have ur head examined!

OBVIOUSLY what i meant was their cores are abt the same.. freaking retards..

9800 Pro (R350 core) - 8 shader, 8 TMU, 4 Vertex
6600 GT (N43 core) - 8 shader, 8 TMU, 3 Vertex

I am emmbrassed to have anything to do with the lot of u.. :roll:

Please stop this crap already.

You said the 9800Pro and 6600GT have the same core. Not us. Do not, EVER, call someone a retard, when you are the one giving completely wrong advice.
December 26, 2006 11:04:02 PM

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I take anything Track says with a grain of salt,


More like a truck load.

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this is the third time he's been dead wrong.


Check his post count. That's how many times he's been wrong.
December 26, 2006 11:05:15 PM

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They both have the same core.

I am at a loss for words.

I think he smoked a bit too much crack!
December 26, 2006 11:26:05 PM

Quote:
They both have the same core.

I am at a loss for words.

I think he smoked a bit too much crack!

No amount of crack can mess you up this badly.
December 26, 2006 11:26:56 PM

Quote:
They both have the same core.

I am at a loss for words.

I think he smoked a bit too much crack!

No amount of crack can mess you up this badly.

Change the Cr to Sm.
December 26, 2006 11:29:26 PM

Quote:
They both have the same core.

I am at a loss for words.

I think he smoked a bit too much crack!

No amount of crack can mess you up this badly.

Change the Cr to Sm.

lol
a b U Graphics card
December 26, 2006 11:36:31 PM

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How the hell can the 9800 Pro and the 6600 GT have the same core?


Duh, you said it! That's why there's an edit button, to edit (as you would say) retardedness.

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OBVIOUSLY what i meant was their cores are abt the same..


"About the same" and "The same" are two very different things, your mistake, your fault.



Back on topic, the 6600GT can kick any 9800's butt.
December 26, 2006 11:42:04 PM

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And if you're sooo sure you even know the difference between the two, how come you're telling someone to use ATI tool to OC they're Nvidia card?

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/OC-GPU-ftopict2...

You stupid dumba$$.


Much as I agree his "Same Core" remark was very misleading, you are making yourself look like the "dumba$$" here.

Personal attacks are almost never needed.


ATItool works fine with nVidia cards. I have used it on my 7900GT and my 8800GTX.

The reason people recommend it even for nVidia cards is its ability to scan for artefacts and find max GPU and VRAM clocks easily. Give a newbie slider bars only as in coolbits, nTune, and Rivatuner, and they crank them to the max then post questions asking what the green lines/yellow dots on the screen are.
a b U Graphics card
December 26, 2006 11:45:11 PM

DO I HAVE TO SAY IT AGIAN!!!!

track is always off track.
December 26, 2006 11:49:50 PM

:oops:  Sorry about the "personal" attacks, but this a$$ clown does this every time he says anything. The ATI tool rant came from him saying that the 9800pro, and 660GT use the same core.
December 26, 2006 11:52:34 PM

Yeah, I can see what he is saying in that they have a "similar" core architecture, as they both have 8 pipes, but that's a very loose definition of "similar" and he should have admitted he was wrong rather than get all defensive :/ 

The 6600 NV43 is one of the best selling GPUs of recent times, quite possibly of all time, as borne out by Valve's Steam surveys.

Its "the little GPU that could" in a lot of ways, and really saved nVidia's ass after the bitter disappointment that was the GeForce FX series. Its very cheap, and the GT is very fast for its price.
December 27, 2006 12:17:42 AM

Never knew ATI TOOL could be used for Nvidia cards. Never pretended I knew they could be, and if I could, I'd explain why I was recommending ATI tool for an Nvidia card. I can play nice, and admit to when I'm wrong :oops:  , but when it comes to trolls like "Track" who never (unless luck is in the cards) knows WTF he's talking about, I have to call him on it. Go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt. Doing so, puts you in the same catagory. Enjoy your new friend.
December 27, 2006 1:02:51 AM

Perhaps Mr. Paranoid about the PSU should stay in the PSU section (or maybe not). I can tell him that he's wrong via PM, but that's not going to stop him from giving advise where he shouldn't be. Private or public, he's still not going to listen.
a b U Graphics card
December 27, 2006 1:09:17 AM

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Check his post count. That's how many times he's been wrong.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
December 27, 2006 1:20:17 AM

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I take anything Track says with a grain of salt, this is the third time he's been dead wrong.

And I quote: "They both have the same core." There's a big difference between "same core" and "cores with similar capabilities and resources".

Not flaming you Track, just be careful, we will bite you for FUD, even if it is accidental :twisted: .


Only a grain? I take the whole freaking shaker!
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