Which card is more powerful?
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I own a Sapphire radeon 9800pro 256mb and a BFG nvidia 6600GT OC 128mb.
brand and price aside, Which one is better?
brand and price aside, Which one is better?
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They both have the same core.
The 6600 GT can be clocked higher than the 9800 Pro, so it's core perform better. BUT the 6600 GT has half the memory bandwidth, so the texture resolution would have to be pretty small, wich fits well because the 6600 GT has only 128MB so it would make sense for it to have less bandwidth than the 9800 Pro, wich is a high-end card.
Now the 6600 GT has GDDR3 while the 9800 Pro has DDR2, wich means that u can get the memory clocks a little higher, but the bandwidth will never be as high as the 9800 Pro's.
Since the core is what matters in performance, and the 6600 GT's core (due to it's higher clock speed) is 33% faster in comparison to the 9800 Pro, the 6600 GT is the clear winner, but dont expect to use very high textures and still get good performance.
The 6600 GT can be clocked higher than the 9800 Pro, so it's core perform better. BUT the 6600 GT has half the memory bandwidth, so the texture resolution would have to be pretty small, wich fits well because the 6600 GT has only 128MB so it would make sense for it to have less bandwidth than the 9800 Pro, wich is a high-end card.
Now the 6600 GT has GDDR3 while the 9800 Pro has DDR2, wich means that u can get the memory clocks a little higher, but the bandwidth will never be as high as the 9800 Pro's.
Since the core is what matters in performance, and the 6600 GT's core (due to it's higher clock speed) is 33% faster in comparison to the 9800 Pro, the 6600 GT is the clear winner, but dont expect to use very high textures and still get good performance.
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They both have the same core.WTF are you smoking? They most certainly do NOT have the same core. One card is made by Nvidia, and the other by ATI. Does anything remotely correct every come out of your mouth? If you don't know what you're talking about, then STFU!
To the OP: don't listen to this troll. He pops in every now and then to say something stupid. :roll:
The 6600GT for sure; it would be better in almost every game.
comparison vs. 9800XT and 128MB 9800 pro:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_6600...
comparison vs. 128MB 9800 pro.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2277&p=3
comparison vs. 9800XT and 128MB 9800 pro:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_6600...
comparison vs. 128MB 9800 pro.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2277&p=3
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They both have the same core.The 6600 GT can be clocked higher than the 9800 Pro, so it's core perform better. BUT the 6600 GT has half the memory bandwidth, so the texture resolution would have to be pretty small, wich fits well because the 6600 GT has only 128MB so it would make sense for it to have less bandwidth than the 9800 Pro, wich is a high-end card.
Now the 6600 GT has GDDR3 while the 9800 Pro has DDR2, wich means that u can get the memory clocks a little higher, but the bandwidth will never be as high as the 9800 Pro's.
Since the core is what matters in performance, and the 6600 GT's core (due to it's higher clock speed) is 33% faster in comparison to the 9800 Pro, the 6600 GT is the clear winner, but dont expect to use very high textures and still get good performance.
YOU PEOPLE ARE RETARDS.
How the hell can the 9800 Pro and the 6600 GT have the same core?
Man, u ppl should have ur head examined!
OBVIOUSLY what i meant was their cores are abt the same.. freaking retards..
9800 Pro (R350 core) - 8 shader, 8 TMU, 4 Vertex
6600 GT (N43 core) - 8 shader, 8 TMU, 3 Vertex
I am emmbrassed to have anything to do with the lot of u.. :roll:
How the hell can the 9800 Pro and the 6600 GT have the same core?
Man, u ppl should have ur head examined!
OBVIOUSLY what i meant was their cores are abt the same.. freaking retards..
9800 Pro (R350 core) - 8 shader, 8 TMU, 4 Vertex
6600 GT (N43 core) - 8 shader, 8 TMU, 3 Vertex
I am emmbrassed to have anything to do with the lot of u.. :roll:
I take anything Track says with a grain of salt, this is the third time he's been dead wrong.
And I quote: "They both have the same core." There's a big difference between "same core" and "cores with similar capabilities and resources".
Not flaming you Track, just be careful, we will bite you for FUD, even if it is accidental :twisted: .
And I quote: "They both have the same core." There's a big difference between "same core" and "cores with similar capabilities and resources".
Not flaming you Track, just be careful, we will bite you for FUD, even if it is accidental :twisted: .
You said this...
you freakin moron. Not ABOUT the same.
You need your head examined to see if in fact there is anything in there.
All you do is give REALLY,REALLY bad advise, and try to make it seem like you know WTF you're talking about, when you CLEARLY don't. It's clear to me, and to all the regulars here. We know to ignore (or laugh) at what you say. Just STFU, and leave.
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They both have the same core.you freakin moron. Not ABOUT the same.
You need your head examined to see if in fact there is anything in there.
All you do is give REALLY,REALLY bad advise, and try to make it seem like you know WTF you're talking about, when you CLEARLY don't. It's clear to me, and to all the regulars here. We know to ignore (or laugh) at what you say. Just STFU, and leave.
The 6600GT also has SM3.0 support.
9800Pro has a 700MHz effective VRAM clock on a 256bit bus, while the 6600GT has a 1000MHz effective clock (assuming its not one of the many overclocked versions) on a 128bit bus.
This means the 9800Pro has ~40% more VRAM bandwidth
But given the 6600GTs much newer, SM3.0 compliant core, 31% faster GPU clock, the 6600GT will hammer it, as the benchmarks show.
9800Pro has a 700MHz effective VRAM clock on a 256bit bus, while the 6600GT has a 1000MHz effective clock (assuming its not one of the many overclocked versions) on a 128bit bus.
This means the 9800Pro has ~40% more VRAM bandwidth
But given the 6600GTs much newer, SM3.0 compliant core, 31% faster GPU clock, the 6600GT will hammer it, as the benchmarks show.
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YOU PEOPLE ARE RETARDS.How the hell can the 9800 Pro and the 6600 GT have the same core?
Man, u ppl should have ur head examined!
OBVIOUSLY what i meant was their cores are abt the same.. freaking retards..
Who's the Retard? YOU were the one who said they had the same core. Now you offer excuses and flames for YOUR mistake! There used to be a saying that went, "Say what you mean and mean what you say". Obviously, you did neither.
All of us have probably made mistakes from time to time. I know I have. But its better to simply say "I screwed up", rather than to defend a mistake with flames toward others. Or is it so hard to admit a mistake?
And if you're sooo sure you even know the difference between the two, how come you're telling someone to use ATI tool to OC they're Nvidia card?
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/OC-GPU-ftopict2...
You stupid dumba$$.
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/OC-GPU-ftopict2...
You stupid dumba$$.
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YOU PEOPLE ARE RETARDS.How the hell can the 9800 Pro and the 6600 GT have the same core?
Man, u ppl should have ur head examined!
OBVIOUSLY what i meant was their cores are abt the same.. freaking retards..
9800 Pro (R350 core) - 8 shader, 8 TMU, 4 Vertex
6600 GT (N43 core) - 8 shader, 8 TMU, 3 Vertex
I am emmbrassed to have anything to do with the lot of u.. :roll:
Please stop this crap already.
You said the 9800Pro and 6600GT have the same core. Not us. Do not, EVER, call someone a retard, when you are the one giving completely wrong advice.
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How the hell can the 9800 Pro and the 6600 GT have the same core?
Duh, you said it! That's why there's an edit button, to edit (as you would say) retardedness.
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OBVIOUSLY what i meant was their cores are abt the same..
"About the same" and "The same" are two very different things, your mistake, your fault.
Back on topic, the 6600GT can kick any 9800's butt.
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And if you're sooo sure you even know the difference between the two, how come you're telling someone to use ATI tool to OC they're Nvidia card?http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/OC-GPU-ftopict2...
You stupid dumba$$.
Much as I agree his "Same Core" remark was very misleading, you are making yourself look like the "dumba$$" here.
Personal attacks are almost never needed.
ATItool works fine with nVidia cards. I have used it on my 7900GT and my 8800GTX.
The reason people recommend it even for nVidia cards is its ability to scan for artefacts and find max GPU and VRAM clocks easily. Give a newbie slider bars only as in coolbits, nTune, and Rivatuner, and they crank them to the max then post questions asking what the green lines/yellow dots on the screen are.
Yeah, I can see what he is saying in that they have a "similar" core architecture, as they both have 8 pipes, but that's a very loose definition of "similar" and he should have admitted he was wrong rather than get all defensive
The 6600 NV43 is one of the best selling GPUs of recent times, quite possibly of all time, as borne out by Valve's Steam surveys.
Its "the little GPU that could" in a lot of ways, and really saved nVidia's ass after the bitter disappointment that was the GeForce FX series. Its very cheap, and the GT is very fast for its price.
The 6600 NV43 is one of the best selling GPUs of recent times, quite possibly of all time, as borne out by Valve's Steam surveys.
Its "the little GPU that could" in a lot of ways, and really saved nVidia's ass after the bitter disappointment that was the GeForce FX series. Its very cheap, and the GT is very fast for its price.
Never knew ATI TOOL could be used for Nvidia cards. Never pretended I knew they could be, and if I could, I'd explain why I was recommending ATI tool for an Nvidia card. I can play nice, and admit to when I'm wrong
, but when it comes to trolls like "Track" who never (unless luck is in the cards) knows WTF he's talking about, I have to call him on it. Go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt. Doing so, puts you in the same catagory. Enjoy your new friend.
, but when it comes to trolls like "Track" who never (unless luck is in the cards) knows WTF he's talking about, I have to call him on it. Go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt. Doing so, puts you in the same catagory. Enjoy your new friend. Quote:
I take anything Track says with a grain of salt, this is the third time he's been dead wrong.And I quote: "They both have the same core." There's a big difference between "same core" and "cores with similar capabilities and resources".
Not flaming you Track, just be careful, we will bite you for FUD, even if it is accidental :twisted: .
Only a grain? I take the whole freaking shaker!
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