Core 2 Duo E4300 review

[meibf]

http://xtreview.com/review161.htm

It seems that E4300 is really worth waiting and a x2 3800+ killer.

 

[CaptRobertApril]

Sorry. Couldn't get through the first paragraph:

Do u know about all those surprises which are capable of presenting processors with the micro-architecture intel core? They are sold already sufficiently long time ago, and everyone with the impatience waited for the appearance Of conroe on the counters stores. we had published numerous articles, which demonstrate the power of new new desktop CPU as families core 2 Duo and Core 2 Extreme.

They can go take an English class before I'll waste my time trying to decipher their hieroglyphics.

 

[meibf]

Maybe the text is machine translated. Just look at the figures and features.


Enhanced speedstep for lower power conumption than e6300.

Overclock to 2.9 GHz without any changes on voltage. That is exactly what I needed.

 

[CaptRobertApril]

Hey, no doubt about it, the E4300 is gonna be an amazing CPU especially for the price!

 

[NMDante]

Looks pretty interesting, but the graphs are confusing, since they use colors in their key/legend that don't correspond with anything on the graphs, especially with the E4300/E6600 bar graphs.

Otherwise, it does look like a pretty nice CPU.

 

[1Tanker]

Sorry. Couldn't get through the first paragraph:

Do u know about all those surprises which are capable of presenting processors with the micro-architecture intel core? They are sold already sufficiently long time ago, and everyone with the impatience waited for the appearance Of conroe on the counters stores. we had published numerous articles, which demonstrate the power of new new desktop CPU as families core 2 Duo and Core 2 Extreme.

They can go take an English class before I'll waste my time trying to decipher their hieroglyphics.

Just pretend it's a Hustler...mag. Look at the pretty pictures.

 

[1Tanker]

http://xtreview.com/review161.htm

It seems that E4300 is really worth waiting and a x2 3800+ killer.

As can be expected, and reflected in SANDRA Whetstone...FPU is the property most lacking, and a healthy O/C will help resolve that. Nice overclock for stock cooling/vCore. 100% O/C's are coming.

 

[CaptRobertApril]

Just pretend it's a Hustler...mag. Look at the pretty pictures.

Nah. I dropped my Hustler subscription years ago. I only read BDSM magazines now, and the occasional manual on fire hose enemas.

 

[czepiel]

Nah. I dropped my Hustler subscription years ago. I only read BDSM magazines now, and the occasional manual on fire hose enemas.

I think I just threw up in my mouth.

 

[CaptRobertApril]

Nah. I dropped my Hustler subscription years ago. I only read BDSM magazines now, and the occasional manual on fire hose enemas.

I think I just threw up in my mouth.

Nah. I'm not into that. But there are scathology clubs in NY and LA where that skill is highly regarded. :lol:

 

[shinigamiX]

I'll drop you a PM. I'm always recruiting new eager kids 8)

 

[chuckshissle]

1.8Ghz overclocked to over 3Ghz @ 1.45vcore running over 80c! Now that's a good overclocking cpu.

 

[darkstar782]

Low price and x9 multiplier ftw.

The only reason to buy and AMD CPU right now is that you already have an AM2 platform system. If you are on 939 and want to upgrade, C2D makes more sense than AM2, and a new 939 CPU is a dead end upgrade.

That's kinda sucky, I like it when AMD/Intel are competitive :/

 

[redwing]

The wait is worth it it seems. I'm glad I resisted the e6300/6400.
Low stock FSB + high multiplier + native 2mb (instead of 4-2mb) cache should all lead to great OC'ing and lower heat. This is somewhat similar to what the d805 was at the time (in terms of OC value), only it's a Core2, a 65nm, and has all the advantages that that implies.

 

[SEALBoy]

Is it just me or are they comparing it to an Athlon 64 3800+ (single core)?

 

[djplanet]

There goes AMD's budget appeal, good find. Core derived Celerons are all that's left.

 

[CaptRobertApril]

I'll drop you a PM. I'm always recruiting new eager kids 8)

If you're looking for kids, I'd better hurry up and finally reproduce...

:lol:

OK, let me ask everyone a question.

You are building a system from scratch for more or less general purpose prosumer/enthusiast use. You don't even have as much as a mouse. Price/performance is paramount.

Would anyone go for an AMD CPU? If so, which one and why?

 

[darious00777]

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (35 watt SFF).

Why? Because it doesn't use much electricity.

Other then that, quad core chips for a 4x4 motherboard.

Why? Because you can never have enough cores. Well, maybe a normal person could, but I can't. Then again, that would be a power hog, and I don't want that.

Meh, might as well just get an 8-core chip from sun microsystems. It's only 1.4 ghz, or something like that, but it could help me out.

 

[CaptRobertApril]

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (35 watt SFF).

Why? Because it doesn't use much electricity.

Other then that, quad core chips for a 4x4 motherboard.

Why? Because you can never have enough cores. Well, maybe a normal person could, but I can't. Then again, that would be a power hog, and I don't want that.

Meh, might as well just get an 8-core chip from sun microsystems. It's only 1.4 ghz, or something like that, but it could help me out.

Aha, mon chere, but electric consumption or lack thereof was not a consideration. The US Avg. Electric Price/KW shows that the difference between a 35 and 65 W CPU at full tilt is about 2 cents per hour. Neither was a quadcore that doesn't exist yet. The purchase is today.

 

[CaptRobertApril]

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (35 watt SFF).

Why? Because it doesn't use much electricity.

Other then that, quad core chips for a 4x4 motherboard.

Why? Because you can never have enough cores. Well, maybe a normal person could, but I can't. Then again, that would be a power hog, and I don't want that.

Meh, might as well just get an 8-core chip from sun microsystems. It's only 1.4 ghz, or something like that, but it could help me out.

Aha, mon chere, but electric consumption or lack thereof was not a consideration. The US Avg. Electric Price/KW shows that the difference between a 35 and 65 W CPU at full tilt is about 2 cents per hour. Neither was a quadcore that doesn't exist yet. The purchase is today.

Isn't this hilarious --- a 65 nm AMD CPU idles 8-12 watts lower than a C2D. If you run 7x24, and don't use your computer, this amounts to about 12 bucks a year difference in electricity costs.... in otherwords, buy an AMD CPU if you plan to turn your computer on but never use it

Please congratulate me. I've resisted the temptation of making the obvious joke about the AMD buyer not being smart enough to use his PC anyway. :lol:

This whole energy-saving nonsense (on the desktop at least) is nothing more than marketing hype and scam. Does anyone really buy a processor that can cost upwards of a thousand bucks because it uses ten bucks more or less electricity per year? Now when electricity=heat as in the late and unlamented Pentium 4/Ds it is certainly a factor. But even that can be dissipated by a good air system well south of a hundred bucks.

 

[darious00777]

You dirty snitches. Okay, you got me.

If I had to choose any processor on the market, it'd probably be an X5355 Xeon, preferably two of them, with 32 gigs 677 mhz DDR2 ECC ram to back it up.

There, you happy now. :razz:

 

[redwing]

Not really.
Hey btw, when's the last time anyone here bought a CPU "upwards of a thousand dollars". Never? Me neither.
Isn't the E4300 supposed to be priced somewhere around 115$?

Saving 20-30$ on your yearly bill makes a bit more sense in this context.

 

[darious00777]

From what I've read, the E4300 will start out at about $160, then drop down to around $120 in the second quarter of 2007.

 

[CaptRobertApril]

You dirty snitches. Okay, you got me.

If I had to choose any processor on the market, it'd probably be an X5355 Xeon, preferably two of them, with 32 gigs 677 mhz DDR2 ECC ram to back it up.

There, you happy now. :razz:

Yeah, real happy since that's pretty well the system I'm angling for, as soon as I can manage to rip the ATM out of the bank wall with my pickup truck. Although I'm gonna go cheap and only get 16GB RAM. Even that way it's still gonna cost over ten grand. Do you have any ideas how many blonde/nights I can buy for that kinda money, and I'm gonna go blow it on a humming metal box? I must really be getting old and senile!

Not really.
Hey btw, when's the last time anyone here bought a CPU "upwards of a thousand dollars". Never? Me neither.
Isn't the E4300 supposed to be priced somewhere around 115$?

Saving 20-30$ on your yearly bill makes a bit more sense in this context.

I dunno. DaSickNinja goes through $1000+ processors like condoms at an Viagra orgy. :lol: There are more people on this forum than you might think that are using a QX6700 right now and if there's anywhere that's selling it for three figures lemme know and I'll run over and buy one right now.

According to the costs on that electric utility site I just quoted let's assume that a PC user in Louisville buys Processor A since it uses 30W less electricity in overall usage 24/7 than Processor B. His annual electric savings are (spot on Jack!) $12.70. I don't think that's gonna break anyone who can afford a new PC. It definitely falls into the irrelevant category.

 

[lbax]

Now when electricity=heat as in the late and unlamented Pentium 4/Ds it is certainly a factor. But even that can be dissipated by a good air system well south of a hundred bucks.

Power=Heat=Noise

I have drawn the line at a 500W PSU for my desktop. I do not give a rats bottom about the annual electric cost. I do care mightly about the turbo jet shriek that emanates from the other side of my desk! Anything that the CPU & GPU vendors can do to limit power consumption while increasing computing horsepower is a large step in the right direction by my standard.