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Should I go with a X800 pro or a X700 pro

Total: 17 votes

  • X800 pro
  • 83 %
  • X700 pro
  • 18 %
December 26, 2006 9:54:51 PM

Im looking to upgrade my videocard an 9700pro (great card by the way lasted me 4 years now :)  but I think its time for a little upgrade until I buy a new computer :)  (going to get a Direct X10 gaming machine onces some more cards come out and prices go down looking to get about another 6 months) my present vid card is running into problems and shutting down if I leave it sit on a game screen and don't move at all (really anoying :p ) so I need a new card soon :) 

So Im looking at getting ether the X800 pro at 140$ or the X700pro at 50$ but since I am going to upgrade soon I just need something to hold me over and play whats out there today. My 9700pro does play the games but as I stated before it craps out on me. So I am looking for the wisdom of the forum to guild me on my way to a new AGP video card.

Other specs on my comp

2400+ XP (might actualy try and find a 3200+ somewhere on ebay or something unless any of you guys want to sell me an XP socket A CPU better then a 2400+... didn't think so :p )

A7n8x motherboard
r9700 pro
512ram (looking to upgrade to 1gig for right now)

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December 26, 2006 10:19:19 PM

I would say x800 pro all the way but looking at the price difference and knowing that you're just waiting for DX10 maybe x700 is a more temporaly solution (however dont expect huge improvements
comparing to that old once-highend 9700)
a b U Graphics card
December 26, 2006 10:36:57 PM

I think the x700 pro is similar to the 9800 pro.

EDIT: At least I think anyway. I still use a 9800pro too, Not a bad card, not a good card.
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December 26, 2006 10:47:02 PM

X800Pro is the way to go on this one.
December 26, 2006 10:50:13 PM

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I would say x800 pro all the way but looking at the price difference and knowing that you're just waiting for DX10 maybe x700 is a more temporaly solution (however dont expect huge improvements
comparing to that old once-highend 9700)


Thats just it I kinda want to get a up grade now (been dealing with this for about a year or so now with the crashing every once and a while but its been getting worse, might have come from OCing back in the day) and if I want to upgrade anything else I don't really want to put more then 200 more into this if I can help it. So if I buy the X800 pro and spend 50 more probably on getting the Ram to 1gig will that be enough to justify spending 200 on something so old. I will be keeping it around after I buy the New direct X10 machine and do want to run games for small lans that haven at my house. I already have 4 computers in the house so the new one will make 5 :) .

On the other side I can get the X700 pro by Friday (would have to wait about 2 weeks to get the X800, 50$ is something I can just drop into my wallet for where as 150$ needs to wait for a pay day) and have basicly the same thing as my (which is dieing but not dead) 9700 pro with small improvements here and there for some games only spend 50$ and not feel like I need to spend anything else for upgrading. The thing is I don't mind my comp at all when it comes to games some would be way better looking if I got a better video card but lag hasn't really been a problem as long as I lower settings enough and for old games its still smoking can run 2004 UT at 1600 x 1200 no lag with everything up (by the way I love the sound "Holey $hit" is made when you do that)

So do I really need the X800 pro horse power? To this question I hope some of you have some insight because I cant make up my mind.

Thanks for you time
Josh
Guldan

PS: Have a new born and need to think about not just spending cash on flash now :p 
December 26, 2006 11:14:33 PM

Even for that extra $100 i would go for it, the x800pro is almost twice as fast as that x700pro which in turn is around the same speed as the old 9800pro which was only slightly faster than the 9700pro.
December 26, 2006 11:17:18 PM

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Even for that extra $100 i would go for it, the x800pro is almost twice as fast as that x700pro which in turn is around the same speed as the old 9800pro which was only slightly faster than the 9700pro.


Seconded.
December 27, 2006 12:41:05 AM

Both are good infact. X700 for 50, but the x800pro being the better card. X800 seems to win this one. Like they said, the x800pro does surpass the x700 and the old 9800pro.
December 27, 2006 1:32:38 AM

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2400+ XP (might actualy try and find a 3200+ somewhere on ebay or something unless any of you guys want to sell me an XP socket A CPU better then a 2400+... didn't think so :p )


If you were really thinking a small cpu upgrade too...
You could get a cheap socket a64 3200+ 939 cpu ($55) and motherboard (sub $75), overclock it, with PCIe for less than the $150 socket A 3200+ I see selling for now adays.
Technically, I'd say AM2 for not much more, or intel platform but at least with the 939 you can save some money and keep your ram.
f you're saving money you probably weren't going to buy the latest cpu anyway, and at that point price matters more than performance, in which case 939 is as good as any, and it wold run a DX10 card, allowing you some flexibility for your future upgrade. Also, PCIe cards tend to be a bit cheaper for better performance.


Otherwise, if you are going to upgrade in 6 months for sure, get the x700, it saves you the most money, and since you would've been fine keeping your 9700, if it had stayed stable,
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My 9700pro does play the games but as I stated before it craps out on me.

that sounds like your answer right there, imo. Anything else is wasted money come 6mo. from now.

This assumes you are really dead-set on upgrading in the 6mo you intended. Save the cash now, an extra $100 can get you something you'll appreciate more then.
December 27, 2006 2:21:23 AM

I suggest your pick a little better choices because differences might not be that big

Definetily the x700 wont have not even a little impact. So I suggest you go for a x850PRO which you can get on newegg for $130 or a 7600GS for $150 I think or the 7600GT.
December 27, 2006 3:04:14 AM

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Even for that extra $100 i would go for it, the x800pro is almost twice as fast as that x700pro which in turn is around the same speed as the old 9800pro which was only slightly faster than the 9700pro.


Would I have any bottle necks with any of the other parts of my computer. I would like to buy a new CPU but don't really feel like I have to until I get the new comp. And wouldn't my ram be holding me back from using the full potential of the X800 pro?
December 27, 2006 3:21:23 AM

Your choices are very restrictive. For 140$ you should be looking at x850 or 7600GT type of cards, although the AGP versions might take a little bit of price monitoring before you get a good deal. Neither of the cards you listed are significantly better than a 9700/9800.

If you can buy from USA e-tailers, consider :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

7600GS with passive cooling (silent) for 126$

This card beats both the x700 and the x800. Not the best deal of the century, but just to show you that there are better options out there.

Some words of caution if you try to hunt for deals in the 100-140$ range.

1. THe 6800XT is the sucky edition of a 6800. It's still a better card than a 9700Pro, but it performs somewhere between a 6600GT and a 6800.
Only a worthwhile upgrade if you can get a great deal on it.

2. THe x1600Pro is a failure. Many have 512mb, but that doesnt help as the card is ultimately a poor performer. Benchmarks place it well below the 7600GS. The x1650Pro is a better choice, but only if you can get a good deal (around 100$ish for the AGP version).

Cards to try to aim for :

7600GT, x800GTO, x850Pro/XT, x1800GTO (not sure if this one exists in AGP).

All of the above can be found for <150$ (with some effort in searching), and provide much better performance than your previous 9700.

Hope this helps,

Cheers and Happy Holidays !
December 27, 2006 3:24:37 AM

I would go for any of this

x850PRO or 7600GT

Those will show a big perfomance increase.
December 27, 2006 11:50:15 PM

The x800 pro is obviously the better card.
To me though, the question wasn't which is the better card, it's which is
the better value.
But if you are sincerely upgrading the cpu, consider my scenario above.
Also, if you are really going to upgrade soon, ask yourself this.

Would you have upgraded your video card if you knew your 9700 was going to hold out?

If the answer is no, save the $100 for when you can really use it, and get the 9700 or something useful off eBay or something and deal with it until then.
a b U Graphics card
December 31, 2006 4:28:18 AM

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7600GT, x800GTO, x850Pro/XT, x1800GTO (not sure if this one exists in AGP).

An x1800gto for <$150, approx $AU200, where did you get a price like that? Here its like $300, about $US250.
a b U Graphics card
December 31, 2006 5:12:46 AM

Why is everything so cheap in the US? We dont get rebates or nothing in Aus. We need a "newegg" here, maybe us Aussies should petition for an Aus/NZ outlet.

EDIT: On second thought, scrap the NZ store, they dont deserve it. :twisted:
December 31, 2006 12:53:12 PM

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Why is everything so cheap in the US? We dont get rebates or nothing in Aus. We need a "newegg" here, maybe us Aussies should petition for an Aus/NZ outlet.

EDIT: On second thought, scrap the NZ store, they dont deserve it. :twisted:


Just 'cause they're better than you at rugby!

But then again, everyone's better than us these days (England).
a b U Graphics card
January 1, 2007 2:01:29 AM

Yea, but we smash them in cricket, and everyone else :wink:
January 1, 2007 5:11:16 AM

Please don't mention the ashes....!

I just got in...it's 7:10 and my keyboard's all wet from spilt borboun
a b U Graphics card
January 1, 2007 9:58:09 PM

Dont worry, I wont mention the ashes. :p 
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