I need help with a BET, so put on your thinking caps. Today a co-worker and I got in to a discussion. We have another co-worker that has a 3 year old Compaq, and he wants to upgrade his RAM. My friend told him that it would probably only support 1Gb, but I said 'NO, that's not true... motherboards have been supporting more than 1GB for a long long time." Long story short, he said that inexpensive systems, ie a 499 machine from Wal-mart never really came with the ability to have more than 1GB of RAM until recently. I told him that systems have been coming the ability to go beyond 1GB of RAM for about 7 years, and then immediately retracted, and said, 'okay, maybe 5 years'.
Upon some research, I see that the introduction of the Pentium 4 back in August of 2000, also introduced us to northbridge chipsets from intel that were capable of a maximum of 2GB of RAM. So it looks like I'm correct. There's 21 chipsets (give or take) that are for pentium 4 based systems, and they all appear to support 2GB of RAM except the 845MP, which looks like it was only 1GB, but it was also for laptops.
He said, and I don't really dispute, that even though the chipset was capable of supporting 2GB, that a lot, and stressed a LOT, of motherboards still only were designed to support 1GB.
I REALLY want to go out on a limb here and say I think ALMOST all Pentium 4 Motherboards since, oh say, 2002 (6 years) have supported 2GB RAM max (or more), not just 1GB.
BUT this is where I need your help. I told him to show me an example of a motherboard that was pentium 4 based, that has intel chipset on it, that only supported 1GB due to it's design, not the chip capabilities. He can't. Granted those types of motherboards are old, but someone out there, if one exists, knows of one, and can help his case. I'd like to know about it. (As a side bar, we'd like to know about AMD motherboards and their max RAM limits during the same 5, 6, or 7 years... but I can't find that data.)
Generally its been 512 MB per slot until the 845, right? and then its been 1G or 2GB per slot after that, I think.
Smart choice would be to look up your system on Crucial's web site, just to be sure.
Of course 32-bit OS are limited to a theoretical maximum of 4GB per process anyway (Even with PAE).
EDIT: Of course I'm only thinking about Intel chipsets here. I really don't know a lot about VIA or SIS (save for the 655TX, which was a very fine effort from SIS), but its probably not one of those anyway. Unless its a Serverworks. . . I think those were at least 1GB per slot.
The first i845 motherboards from Intel, running that wondrous stuff PC133 could take 3GB max.
You guys really live on the edge, don't you?
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Reply to RobD
Nuts4coke said: I need help....BLA BLA BLA...maybe 5 years'.
And then: Upon some research...BLA BLA BLA....but it was also for laptops.
He then said that:He said, and I don't really dispute....BLA BLA BLA... support 1GB.
Some more:I REALLY want to go out on a limb here and say I think ALMOST all Pentium 4 Motherboards since, oh say, 2002 (6 years) have supported 2GB RAM max (or more), not just 1GBgrow up and stop waisting time on trivial things...
And lastly: BUT this is where I need BLA BLA BLA...but I can't find that data.)
If you want guys to blow you, go back down the docks you big ponce.
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I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD
I can't, your mom has the market on that area, and threatened bodily harm if I "horned" in on her territory. I have to admit though, she's good at what she does. I took a turn for $5.
Message edited by nuts4coke on 08-22-2008 at 06:35:14 PM
No, I checked first.. they're cool... and they show the exact same amount of class as all the other 'boneheaded' replies here, so as far as I can tell, it's all good.
Message edited by nuts4coke on 08-22-2008 at 06:51:42 PM
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Reply to JustPlainJef
He's just sniffy because he doesn't have a fcuking clue about motherboards, hence he has to pimp himself out at the docks. With very little success I'd wager.
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I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
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Reply to RobD
He's just sniffy because he doesn't have a fcuking clue about motherboards, hence he has to pimp himself out at the docks. With very little success I'd wager.
yeah and add to that he has no class.....this is a classy joint.
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I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
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Reply to RobD
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I like this new guy. He got the hippie all upset!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
(Nutz, I'd recommend reading the stickies if you haven't already, and you would understand the "boneheaded" replies that you have gotten so far)
Oh, I've read the stickies. Just having a little fun. After I posted in the 'real' forum, I posted the question here just for this purpose. I'm suspecting PIKE re-read them, and look for the following post:
ATTENTION ALL NEWBIES: (SHORT FORM)
"Yes, we are assholes.
No, we won't answer your computer questions.
Yes, we would be happy to insult you.
No, we don't want you here.
If you choose to stay, please bend over, and remember said rules. "
Which, I believe, I'm quoting you!. It's all good. (flame away)
Oh, I've read the forums. Just having a little fun. After I posted in the 'real' forum, I posted the question here just for this purpose. I'm suspecting PIKE re-read them, and look for the following post:
ATTENTION ALL NEWBIES: (SHORT FORM)
"Yes, we are assholes.
No, we won't answer your computer questions.
Yes, we would be happy to insult you.
No, we don't want you here.
If you choose to stay, please bend over, and remember said rules. "
Which, I believe, I'm quoting you!. It's all good. (flame away)
No you didn't. This was the first place you posted it. You posted in Hardware afterwards. The time and date stamp doesn't lie. Now you're just back-pedalling and trying to get out of making a dumb n00b post.
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I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
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Reply to RobD
No you didn't. This was the first place you posted it. You posted in Hardware afterwards. The time and date stamp doesn't lie. Now you're just back-pedalling and trying to get out of making a dumb n00b post.
Sweety, and don't sell yourself short because you are so very sweet.... I posted at the memory forum first about 6 minutes before here....
but it's okay... they'll teach you how to tell time next year.
Looks like you just made the dumb N00b post (DOH!)
Message edited by nuts4coke on 08-22-2008 at 07:36:20 PM
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shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
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Reply to RobD
n00b with this account, not so n00b with my other.
I love you tho' anyway. Stay sweety baby!
Oh, now you have another account and you're a regular..... riiiiiiiiiight.
------------------------------'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD
you checked with others with no class then...mother jokes are definitly not accepted here.....
Sez who?
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Reply to Jake_Barnes
If you would put on a happy and shut the fcuk up the flaming might die down. You've proved you can shoot from the hip, now stop before actually piss somebody off.
Struggle against what? Digging? The hippie has cried already, I guess you want some too. (Oh come on E3210, my intent is to not piss anyone off, it's friday for cryin' out loud. Ya'll need to relax. I ain't tryin' to bruise ego's here. Go enjoy the weekend.)
You struggle against grammar apparently. I caught ya' before your edit, which means you can't own up to a mistake. Lame-ass.
WOW... yep, that's a zinger... you got me. Nice one. Pat yourself on the back, and turn on Oprah, she's featuring a special today about closeted homosexuality with latent tendancies towards molesting fruit, and listening to Cher records. You'll be able to gleen some important info from that....
no, you are a noob, post count does not change that unless you are confusing noob with newb, either way, you are a noob.
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. It was going to be my next question, but your clairvoyance (psst: that means 'clear vision') has served you well, and you've managed to beat me to the punch. I applaud your performance. (that's what she said)
It wasn't meant as a "zinger". Most here when they edit for a typo, will admit it. You clearly are so insecure, and are trying so hard to be above it all, won't.
That's fine. You're weak. We already know. Keep trying though. Literally hundreds before you tried to do what you're doing, and have failed.
Dang right I do. Like that gerbil through the plastic tube. I BORE that $hit out of that. But only because your so handsome, and make my heart beat fast, you big stud.
Now bring that whiskey breath over here and give daddy a big one!
*goes outside by 1972 vega with kool-aid (and donuts)*
(NOTE: This post was edited to change 'me' to 'my', since apparently I have no grammar skills. I hope this notification serves those of you who give a $hit if I have spelled something correctly or not, and whether I openly admit to said discrepancy, for what I guess is historical purposes on this forum)
Message edited by nuts4coke on 08-22-2008 at 09:02:17 PM
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shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
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