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I need help with a BET, so put on your thinking caps. Today a co-worker and I got in to a discussion. We have another co-worker that has a 3 year old Compaq, and he wants to upgrade his RAM. My friend told him that it would probably only support 1Gb, but I said 'NO, that's not true... motherboards have been supporting more than 1GB for a long long time." Long story short, he said that inexpensive systems, ie a 499 machine from Wal-mart never really came with the ability to have more than 1GB of RAM until recently. I told him that systems have been coming the ability to go beyond 1GB of RAM for about 7 years, and then immediately retracted, and said, 'okay, maybe 5 years'.

Upon some research, I see that the introduction of the Pentium 4 back in August of 2000, also introduced us to northbridge chipsets from intel that were capable of a maximum of 2GB of RAM. So it looks like I'm correct. There's 21 chipsets (give or take) that are for pentium 4 based systems, and they all appear to support 2GB of RAM except the 845MP, which looks like it was only 1GB, but it was also for laptops.

He said, and I don't really dispute, that even though the chipset was capable of supporting 2GB, that a lot, and stressed a LOT, of motherboards still only were designed to support 1GB.

I REALLY want to go out on a limb here and say I think ALMOST all Pentium 4 Motherboards since, oh say, 2002 (6 years) have supported 2GB RAM max (or more), not just 1GB.

BUT this is where I need your help. I told him to show me an example of a motherboard that was pentium 4 based, that has intel chipset on it, that only supported 1GB due to it's design, not the chip capabilities. He can't. Granted those types of motherboards are old, but someone out there, if one exists, knows of one, and can help his case. I'd like to know about it. (As a side bar, we'd like to know about AMD motherboards and their max RAM limits during the same 5, 6, or 7 years... but I can't find that data.)

CAN ANY OF YOU HELP????

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NO WE FCUKING CANNOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply to strangestranger
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Well we could, but we're not going to. Now fock off.

Reply to WingDing
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Generally its been 512 MB per slot until the 845, right? and then its been 1G or 2GB per slot after that, I think.

Smart choice would be to look up your system on Crucial's web site, just to be sure.

Of course 32-bit OS are limited to a theoretical maximum of 4GB per process anyway (Even with PAE).

EDIT: Of course I'm only thinking about Intel chipsets here. I really don't know a lot about VIA or SIS (save for the 655TX, which was a very fine effort from SIS), but its probably not one of those anyway. Unless its a Serverworks. . . I think those were at least 1GB per slot.

Oh hell: here's a reference: http://www.oempcworld.com/support/PC_Chipset_Guide.htm or, better yet http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/linecard.htm


Message edited by dwellman on 08-20-2008 at 10:29:39 PM
Reply to dwellman
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The first i845 motherboards from Intel, running that wondrous stuff PC133 could take 3GB max.

You guys really live on the edge, don't you?

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Reply to RobD

That was back in Intel's dark years, though. . . I kinda stopped paying attention to this stuff after the Athlon 64 was introduced

Reply to dwellman
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EDIT: Fair enough


Message edited by E3210 on 08-21-2008 at 01:39:39 AM
Reply to E3210

He posted the exact same thing in the CPU section before he posted here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] therboards

Now fcuk off dmroeder...

Reply to dmroeder
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Smile

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Reply to zpyrd

dmroeder wrote :

He posted the exact same thing in the CPU section before he posted here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] therboards

Now fcuk off dmroeder...



Ahhh, a monologue. The first sign of emotional instability or schizophrenia.

Reply to Vokofpolisiekar

nuts4coke wrote :

Nuts4coke said: I need help....BLA BLA BLA...maybe 5 years'.

And then: Upon some research...BLA BLA BLA....but it was also for laptops.

He then said that:He said, and I don't really dispute....BLA BLA BLA... support 1GB.

Some more:I REALLY want to go out on a limb here and say I think ALMOST all Pentium 4 Motherboards since, oh say, 2002 (6 years) have supported 2GB RAM max (or more), not just 1GBgrow up and stop waisting time on trivial things...

And lastly: BUT this is where I need BLA BLA BLA...but I can't find that data.)

CAN ANY OF YOU HELP????



Can we help? Yes. But we don't want to...

Reply to Vokofpolisiekar

dmroeder wrote :

He posted the exact same thing in the CPU section before he posted here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] therboards

Now fcuk off dmroeder...



No, it was the memory section, you friggin' tool, so blow me... oh wait, you already did. Thanks, it was sweet!

Reply to nuts4coke
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If you want guys to blow you, go back down the docks you big ponce.

------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
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I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

I can't, your mom has the market on that area, and threatened bodily harm if I "horned" in on her territory. I have to admit though, she's good at what she does. I took a turn for $5.


Message edited by nuts4coke on 08-22-2008 at 06:35:14 PM
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mother jokes aren't cool and show no class whatsoever

Reply to pike

No, I checked first.. they're cool... and they show the exact same amount of class as all the other 'boneheaded' replies here, so as far as I can tell, it's all good.


Message edited by nuts4coke on 08-22-2008 at 06:51:42 PM
Reply to nuts4coke
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you checked with others with no class then...mother jokes are definitly not accepted here.....

BE GONE

Reply to pike

I checked with your mom.... oh wait... that wasn't cool, and had no class.

Reply to nuts4coke
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* i hear a wingding approching!

Reply to pike

* * yawn * * (sigh)

Reply to nuts4coke

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I like this new guy. He got the hippie all upset!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH



(Nutz, I'd recommend reading the stickies if you haven't already, and you would understand the "boneheaded" replies that you have gotten so far)

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Reply to JustPlainJef
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i'm just no good at strait out insults....sorry

Reply to pike
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He's just sniffy because he doesn't have a fcuking clue about motherboards, hence he has to pimp himself out at the docks. With very little success I'd wager.

------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

Yep, that's it, you got me. Boy you're quick. (that's what she said)

Reply to nuts4coke
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RobD wrote :

He's just sniffy because he doesn't have a fcuking clue about motherboards, hence he has to pimp himself out at the docks. With very little success I'd wager.



yeah and add to that he has no class.....this is a classy joint.

Reply to pike
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He probably has a severe case of micro penis too.

------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

JustPlainJef wrote :

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I like this new guy. He got the hippie all upset!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
(Nutz, I'd recommend reading the stickies if you haven't already, and you would understand the "boneheaded" replies that you have gotten so far)



Oh, I've read the stickies. Just having a little fun. After I posted in the 'real' forum, I posted the question here just for this purpose. I'm suspecting PIKE re-read them, and look for the following post:
ATTENTION ALL NEWBIES: (SHORT FORM)
"Yes, we are assholes.
No, we won't answer your computer questions.
Yes, we would be happy to insult you.
No, we don't want you here.

If you choose to stay, please bend over, and remember said rules. "

Which, I believe, I'm quoting you!. It's all good. :hello: (flame away)

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Message edited by nuts4coke on 08-22-2008 at 07:24:43 PM
Reply to nuts4coke

RobD wrote :

He probably has a severe case of micro penis too.



No, as a matter of fact, it's nano-micro, 45 to be exact, and QUAD CORE. Thank you very much. Wanna see it work?

Reply to nuts4coke
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nuts4coke wrote :

Oh, I've read the forums. Just having a little fun. After I posted in the 'real' forum, I posted the question here just for this purpose. I'm suspecting PIKE re-read them, and look for the following post:
ATTENTION ALL NEWBIES: (SHORT FORM)
"Yes, we are assholes.
No, we won't answer your computer questions.
Yes, we would be happy to insult you.
No, we don't want you here.

If you choose to stay, please bend over, and remember said rules. "

Which, I believe, I'm quoting you!. It's all good. :hello: (flame away)



No you didn't. This was the first place you posted it. You posted in Hardware afterwards. The time and date stamp doesn't lie. Now you're just back-pedalling and trying to get out of making a dumb n00b post.

------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

RobD wrote :

No you didn't. This was the first place you posted it. You posted in Hardware afterwards. The time and date stamp doesn't lie. Now you're just back-pedalling and trying to get out of making a dumb n00b post.


Sweety, and don't sell yourself short because you are so very sweet.... I posted at the memory forum first about 6 minutes before here....

but it's okay... they'll teach you how to tell time next year.

Looks like you just made the dumb N00b post (DOH!)


Message edited by nuts4coke on 08-22-2008 at 07:36:20 PM
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Sweety? You big know-nothing ponce.

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shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

RobD wrote :

Sweety? You big know-nothing ponce.


Oh, if you only knew.

n00b with this account, not so n00b with my other.

I love you tho' anyway. Stay sweety baby!

Reply to nuts4coke
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sounds like scammy ...but i could be wrong

Reply to pike
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nuts4coke wrote :

Oh, if you only knew.

n00b with this account, not so n00b with my other.

I love you tho' anyway. Stay sweety baby!



Oh, now you have another account and you're a regular..... riiiiiiiiiight.

------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

pike wrote :

you checked with others with no class then...mother jokes are definitly not accepted here.....


Sez who?

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Reply to Jake_Barnes

pike wrote :

your mummy?


Geesus, not cool & absolutely no class. (or so I've been told)


Message edited by nuts4coke on 08-22-2008 at 08:11:52 PM
Reply to nuts4coke

No class is fine, it's you total lack of humor that's annoying. You're lame, get used to it.

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Reply to KingLoftusXII

You know where the off button is toots... use it.

Reply to nuts4coke

No, no, no. It's so much more fun to watch a lame-ass struggle. Keep digging though, it keeps getting funnier.

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Reply to KingLoftusXII
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If you would put on a happy and shut the fcuk up the flaming might die down. You've proved you can shoot from the hip, now stop before actually piss somebody off.

Reply to E3210

Struggle against what? Digging? The hippie has cried already, I guess you want some too. (Oh come on E3210, my intent is to not piss anyone off, it's friday for cryin' out loud. Ya'll need to relax. I ain't tryin' to bruise ego's here. Go enjoy the weekend.)

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Message edited by nuts4coke on 08-22-2008 at 08:40:13 PM
Reply to nuts4coke

nuts4coke wrote :

Struggle against what?The hippie is cried already



You struggle against grammar apparently. I caught ya' before your edit, which means you can't own up to a mistake. Lame-ass.

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Reply to KingLoftusXII

no, you are a noob, post count does not change that unless you are confusing noob with newb, either way, you are a noob.

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Reply to strangestranger

He's so lame he added to his original post to cover up and make it look like his edit was for something else. What a douche.

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Reply to KingLoftusXII

KingLoftusXII wrote :

You struggle against grammar apparently. I caught ya' before your edit, which means you can't own up to a mistake. Lame-ass.


WOW... yep, that's a zinger... you got me. Nice one. Pat yourself on the back, and turn on Oprah, she's featuring a special today about closeted homosexuality with latent tendancies towards molesting fruit, and listening to Cher records. You'll be able to gleen some important info from that....

strangestranger wrote :

no, you are a noob, post count does not change that unless you are confusing noob with newb, either way, you are a noob.


Okay, thanks for clearing that up. It was going to be my next question, but your clairvoyance (psst: that means 'clear vision') has served you well, and you've managed to beat me to the punch. I applaud your performance. (that's what she said)

Reply to nuts4coke

It wasn't meant as a "zinger". Most here when they edit for a typo, will admit it. You clearly are so insecure, and are trying so hard to be above it all, won't.

That's fine. You're weak. We already know. Keep trying though. Literally hundreds before you tried to do what you're doing, and have failed.

You bore me.

*goes outside by pool with whiskey*

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Reply to KingLoftusXII

KingLoftusXII wrote :

You bore me. *goes outside by pool with whiskey*



Dang right I do. Like that gerbil through the plastic tube. I BORE that $hit out of that. But only because your so handsome, and make my heart beat fast, you big stud.

Now bring that whiskey breath over here and give daddy a big one!

*goes outside by 1972 vega with kool-aid (and donuts)*

(NOTE: This post was edited to change 'me' to 'my', since apparently I have no grammar skills. I hope this notification serves those of you who give a $hit if I have spelled something correctly or not, and whether I openly admit to said discrepancy, for what I guess is historical purposes on this forum)


Message edited by nuts4coke on 08-22-2008 at 09:02:17 PM
Reply to nuts4coke

KingLoftusXII wrote :

That's fine. You're weak. We already know. Keep trying though. Literally hundreds before you tried to do what you're doing, and have failed.



I have 4 words for you... "30 minutes until Oprah"

Reply to nuts4coke
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I have another four for you. "Fcuk off and die".

And really, try to act gayer.

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shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
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