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just wondering what kind of 3DMark05 scores you guys are getting with this card, i was getting 7000+ which isnt that good for this card

i got
3.4ghz
2GB 667mhz
X1950XT

please post your scores

i dont no if its my system i may need to do a formatt

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Here is my score for 3dmark06:

Reply to col-p-todd

My System and 3DMark05 scores are in my sig, so I'd say that is VERY low for that card

Reply to TSIMonster

i am doing a formatt to do and actually gonna install the mobo drivers i forgot last time, i know its stupid

but anyways i will post a new score laters

wish me luck

Reply to matthiggins7
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Damn all those scores are low. When I had my X1900XT granted I had it clocked to 730mhz core and 1664mem paired up with a E6400@3.5ghz I was scored a whopping 14,336 marks in 3dmark 05 and 6,900 marks in 06.

Reply to RobsX2

Quote :

just wondering what kind of 3DMark05 scores you guys are getting with this card, i was getting 7000+ which isnt that good for this card

i got
3.4ghz
2GB 667mhz
X1950XT

please post your scores

i dont no if its my system i may need to do a formatt



More info!!! What CPU? What m/b? Are you OCing CPU/GPU? What FSB? What memory timings? These are things that can be modified without formatting... Unless something has gone *seriously* wrong with your Windows installation, you're wasting your time formatting to get higher scores in 3DMark...

Reply to plankmeister

Quote :

just wondering what kind of 3DMark05 scores you guys are getting with this card, i was getting 7000+ which isnt that good for this card

i got
3.4ghz
2GB 667mhz
X1950XT

please post your scores

i dont no if its my system i may need to do a formatt



That sounds about right for 3Dmark06, not 05.

Is your CPU an Intel P4 or Pentium D or what?

Reply to quantumsheep

Hi,

I have just bought the ATi 1950 XT -- 256MB -

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/show [...] =GX-063-CO

Ere is my spec :-

http://msicomputer.co.uk/Products. [...] &cat_id=77
2 Gib of Ram made my samsung -cannot remember the speed
AMD 3700 CPU
MAXTOR 80 SATA HDD

Not the highest of spec -- buxh should run Rainbow Six Vegas - at a high spec --


Wot do u think my score will be?

Reply to lord_kit

Quote :

More info!!! What CPU? What m/b? Are you OCing CPU/GPU? What FSB? What memory timings? These are things that can be modified without formatting... Unless something has gone *seriously* wrong with your Windows installation, you're wasting your time formatting to get higher scores in 3DMark...



3.4 intel P4 single prescott
mobo Asus P5B
memory timing WTH! aint got a clue what this is its 667mhz and 2GB thats all i know :oops:

i aint done the formatt yet, gonna do one because i had problems with install the drivers for my old card, then i did a restore point cause virsus's and shit

gonna get it all straightened out

Reply to matthiggins7

Quote :

More info!!! What CPU? What m/b? Are you OCing CPU/GPU? What FSB? What memory timings? These are things that can be modified without formatting... Unless something has gone *seriously* wrong with your Windows installation, you're wasting your time formatting to get higher scores in 3DMark...



3.4 intel P4 single prescott
mobo Asus P5B
memory timing WTH! aint got a clue what this is its 667mhz and 2GB thats all i know :oops:

i aint done the formatt yet, gonna do one because i had problems with install the drivers for my old card, then i did a restore point cause virsus's and ****

gonna get it all straightened out

That CPU will be the main reason for a lower than normal score, it'll be a fairly substantial bottleneck for an x1950xt!

I recommend upgrading the CPU asap!

Reply to quantumsheep

oh man i heard about bottlenecking but i aint to sure could you explain a bit more please

Reply to matthiggins7

Quote :

oh man i heard about bottlenecking but i aint to sure could you explain a bit more please



Basically your CPU can't keep up with your GPU - Your GPU pushes more data to the CPU than the CPU can cope with, sorta

Reply to quantumsheep
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925D @3.75Ghz (250x15)
HIS 1950XT
P5ND2-sli
2Gb 500Mhz

3D Mark 05: 10,000
3D Mark 06: 6,000

word

Reply to mrmez

Good explanation. If your video card is indeed bottlenecked by your CPU, verclocking your CPU even just by 200MHz or so should raise your score by quite a bit. It's a good way to test for a CPU bottleneck.

Reply to yourmothersanastronaut
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Quote :

Good explanation. If your video card is indeed bottlenecked by your CPU, verclocking your CPU even just by 200MHz or so should raise your score by quite a bit. It's a good way to test for a CPU bottleneck.



My old setup was an 4800X2 and a X1900XT. I discovered that it took 2.6ghz with that AMD chip to remove the bottleneck caused by the X1900XT.

I would imagine a P4 would really have to be pushed up high, probably around 4.2ghz or so.

Reply to RobsX2

If I have the AMD 3700 CPU & the ATi 1950XT 256 MB card.

Would that mean my CPU will not cope with my GPU ?

My MOBO is pretty much standard MSI KN8

Reply to lord_kit

Quote :

If I have the AMD 3700 CPU & the ATi 1950XT 256 MB card.

Would that mean my CPU will not cope with my GPU ?

My MOBO is pretty much standard MSI KN8



In Single Core games the CPU shouldn't be much of a bottleneck. However in multi-threaded games you'll find a nice big bottleneck!

Reply to quantumsheep
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Quote :

If I have the AMD 3700 CPU & the ATi 1950XT 256 MB card.

Would that mean my CPU will not cope with my GPU ?

My MOBO is pretty much standard MSI KN8



If your running at the stock speed of 2.2ghz then yes you are bottlenecking your GPU, even in single threaded apps.


You should have no problem reaching 2.6-2.8ghz with that chip. Like I said before amd's need around 2.6 ghz to remove the bottleneck from an 1950XT or a X1900XT.

I found this to be true on both my old Sandiego 4000+ and my dual core 4800X2.

Reply to RobsX2

I never said it would remove the bottleneck. I said it would check for a bottleneck on the GPU by making a decent amount of improvement. I expect it would scale fairly well.

I do agree that the chip would have to be pushed pretty high to remove the bottleneck on the X1950, no argument there. Around 4GHz is a decent estimate, I'd say.

I did tests in WoW With the 3800+ X2 and X1900XT. I'd hang out in front of the auction house in Ironforge, on average the most crowded place in the game. I tested the difference between the stock 2.0GHz and an overclocked speed of 2.1GHz. There was a big difference in frame rate when overclocked - much smoother. I also did tests in FEAR, saw a ~5fps difference in favor of the overclock.

Overclocking is also relative. Robs says it took 2.6GHz to remove his bottleneck. I don't have huge loads of dispensable income, so I didn't overclock that high. But it didn't take much to see that there was a slight bottleneck.

You may want to think about upgrading to a C2D. You have the board for it, so you might as well spend the ~$200 and get an e6300. That will pair nicely with your video card.

Reply to yourmothersanastronaut

I jsut got a 1950xt also. Do you think a Athlon 64 3800+ Oced to about 2700 mhz would be okay for it? I can't exactly afford a new X2 after buying a 1950 :-)

Reply to Jeepinator
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Quote :

I jsut got a 1950xt also. Do you think a Athlon 64 3800+ Oced to about 2700 mhz would be okay for it? I can't exactly afford a new X2 after buying a 1950 :-)




Yes.

Reply to RobsX2
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Quote :

I never said it would remove the bottleneck.



Who are you talking too?

Reply to RobsX2

i am going to get a E6600 with the 4mb cache

can you tell me if this will be enought for that card+is this chip anygood

Reply to matthiggins7
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Quote :

i am going to get a E6600 with the 4mb cache

can you tell me if this will be enought for that card+is this chip anygood



Definitely. Overclock aswell and you = win.

Reply to sprite
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Hi guys; here's what I'm getting...
3DMark 06 - 6061
3DMark 05 - 11455
...with the rig in my sig.
Regards

Reply to the_ogs

That seems low as well. I would think that system would score higher in 3dmark05 at least. (I have no knowledge of 06 scores)

Reply to TSIMonster
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Quote :

Hi guys; here's what I'm getting...
3DMark 06 - 6061
3DMark 05 - 11455
...with the rig in my sig.
Regards



If your running everything at stock speed that sounds about right.

Reply to RobsX2
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Yes. It's all stock/default voltages but with CPU @ 2.4GHz.
Doesn't seem 'slow' to me! That's a good '05 score (and it's double my old rig's 3DMark '03 score, heheh).
But those new nVidia 8800 vidcards are really fast!
GeForce 8800 GTS - $545. (CDN)
GeForce 8800 GTX - $735. (CDN)
LoL :lol: For that money they better be bloody fast...
L8R

Reply to the_ogs
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Quote :

Yes. It's all stock/default voltages but with CPU @ 2.4GHz.
Doesn't seem 'slow' to me! That's a good '05 score (and it's double my old rig's 3DMark '03 score, heheh).
But those new nVidia 8800 vidcards are really fast!
GeForce 8800 GTS - $545. (CDN)
GeForce 8800 GTX - $735. (CDN)
LoL :lol: For that money they better be bloody fast...
L8R



Yeah Im breaking 12k in 06 and 17k in 05. They are definently fast. :wink:


Bump that E6400 on up man, why you holding out? LOL. I have mine at a nice 3.5ghz at 1.4vcore rock stable with P95 for over 14+hrs. Im using a Tuniq Tower 120 and idle temps are just 34c with load under prime being 59c.

Reply to RobsX2
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Okay I just checked my CPU temps: 28C.
LoL, heheh... that's cold.
I'm gonna go 333FSB, what the hell, why not?
I'll take it up, as long as all my voltages are stock and I can still run EIST.
Will let ya know...

Reply to the_ogs
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Hi,
2666MHz and my idle is up to 34C.
3DMark '05 - 12308
...still no 8800 though :(
But I do get crisp performance for a good price.
@ matthiggins7
So, there are some more numbers for you now... have you any new '05 scores yet?
Regards

Reply to the_ogs

yes i did a formatt

turned ram up was on auto before on BIOS

overclocked my CPU to 3.8ghz

i am getting 8400 which is good but still not great

EDIT:

what are the 8800 bench marks getting for example with a E6600, and 2gb of 800mhz

Reply to matthiggins7

Hiya - Can someone tell me what software i need to use to OC my CPU.

I have gone into Bios and changed a setting for OC my CPU to "Commander" -- thats the onyl option i can see in bios.

I'm sure there must be a easy way.

ALSO Another problem that may cause bottle necking !!

I have 2 gig of RAM -- 1 gig -= Sansung but with latency of 2.5 AND 1 gig = Crosair Latency of 3.0

I ran Mark3d and got a score of 9000 + which aint too bad - i think .. Any ideas? THANKS :-)

Reply to lord_kit
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Quote :

yes i did a formatt

turned ram up was on auto before on BIOS

overclocked my CPU to 3.8ghz

i am getting 8400 which is good but still not great

EDIT:

what are the 8800 bench marks getting for example with a E6600, and 2gb of 800mhz



Matt what driver version are you using? their has been a known driver issue with the X1900 and X1950 when running 3dmark 05 or 3dmark 06. The problem is the card has been known to not switch out of its 2d clock speeds when running 3dmark thus causing the abnormal low scores, I can confirm this as I had the same problem with my X1900XT.

You need to disable the 2 services that cause the switching from 2d to 3d speeds and then you need to manually set your cards correct 3d speeds using ATI TOOL and then run the 3dmark test.

Reply to RobsX2
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Here are my 3DMark scores with my CPU at different clock speeds. System specs are listed in my signature.

3DMark05
2000MHz - 10155
2400MHz - 11387
2800MHz - 12060

3DMark06
2000MHz - 5409
2400MHz - 5679
2800MHz - 5866

Reply to capnbfg
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Similiar problems here as well.

I have a Pentium D 3ghz with 2 gb 667mhz mem.
Sapphire 1950xt and my 3dmark05 scores are around 8300.
I'm using the 7.1 ati drivers.

Any suggestions?

Reply to Wormdog

Hi,

I just ran 3d Mark 05 - My score is 1000 + - No Lies !

i only have a
AMD 3700 +
MSI KN8 MOBO
1.5 GIG PC3200 RAM
ATi 1950XT 256 MB Card

What I did was increased the FSB to 210 - which increased my processor speed from 2.2 Stock to 2.4

Then I killed most of my sysem processes from 30 down to 20/19 - this makes a BIG Diffrence

I was using 300MB now only using 150MB

Hope this helps

Reply to lord_kit
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AMD 4000 OC'ed to 2.70 GHZ, X1900XT with 512Meg, 2 gig Corsair ddr500 (timings at 2-2-2-6) Asus A8N-E and onboard sound
3dmark 2005 12,010
3dmark 2006 5105

Assembling some updates now (OPTY 185 with Abit crossfire board and x-fire extreme gamer sound card) will post updates

Reply to HA_ZEE
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Quote :

Hi,

I just ran 3d Mark 05 - My score is 1000 + - No Lies !




LOL I hope you realize what a horrible score that is.

Reply to RobsX2
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Quote :

Similiar problems here as well.

I have a Pentium D 3ghz with 2 gb 667mhz mem.
Sapphire 1950xt and my 3dmark05 scores are around 8300.
I'm using the 7.1 ati drivers.

Any suggestions?



Read my post above. I had already give a suggestion as to what it could be.

Reply to RobsX2

How can I improve my score then?

Cause reading most peoples posts, mine came out OK.

I ran the Ati Obverdrive setting thing - for automated GC over clock.

So I guess my card is defo not running @ full potential.

Reply to lord_kit
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I am having this problem, i got only 3 FPS in one of the 05 games tests with no AA.

My spec.

E6600
x1950xt
ab9 pro
1gig 800mhz ram

my pc just doesnt seem to perform quickly as you would expect from the parts i built it with.

Reply to Thail

I do not own this card. None of my friends own it. I have never used or touched this card. I do not have the same CPU or RAM as you.
But if I did, my 3DMark06 scores would be 8345.
-cm

Reply to celewign

Quote :

I am having this problem, i got only 3 FPS in one of the 05 games tests with no AA.

My spec.

E6600
x1950xt
ab9 pro
1gig 800mhz ram

my pc just doesnt seem to perform quickly as you would expect from the parts i built it with.




Don't worry mate i get that around 2/3 FPS secounds on Mark 3D 05. this is only on the final parts of benchmarking.

Reply to lord_kit
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Quote :

I am having this problem, i got only 3 FPS in one of the 05 games tests with no AA.

My spec.

E6600
x1950xt
ab9 pro
1gig 800mhz ram

my pc just doesnt seem to perform quickly as you would expect from the parts i built it with.




Don't worry mate i get that around 2/3 FPS secounds on Mark 3D 05. this is only on the final parts of benchmarking.


The part where you are getting 2/3 fps is normal because in that particular test it is only using your CPU to render.

Reply to RobsX2
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Quote :

just wondering what kind of 3DMark05 scores you guys are getting with this card, i was getting 7000+ which isnt that good for this card

i got
3.4ghz
2GB 667mhz
X1950XT

please post your scores

i dont no if its my system i may need to do a formatt



Is your RAM DDR2?
Just get a core2 dual and 2gb ddr2 667. Then you can stop worrying.
I think your P5B supports this,

Reply to enewmen
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can anybody enlighten me .. who's faster x1900xtx or x1950 xt. seems like both are slightly below x1950xtx

Reply to phas3r
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last time i checked the x1900xtx was faster than the 1950xt.

btw my score is 10121 with E6600@stock and a x1950pro @stock

Reply to blade85

Is the 1950 XT 256MB the same as 7950 GT?

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