I need the 2, seen as i thought they would come with the graphics cards but no i surpose that is to simple. where can i get them from? i am at a lose as to where in the uk sells them. please help!
It does come with the graphics card, I don't even think you can buy that cable by it self. Did you buy a crossfire card, or 2 of the same non-crossfire video cards?
With sli you can get 2 the same graphics cards but not with crossfire.
i bought 2 x1650xt's from www.overclockers.co.uk and on the box when i got it they both said on a sticker "crossfire application, crossfire bridge interconnect cable sold seperately"
thanks a bunch overclockers and sapphire nowhere on the website does it say you need to buy it seperatly, nowhere on sapphires website says you need to buy it seperatly either!!
Also, when i try to boot my new system i built, it doesnt boot, gives random beeps, fans sometimes spin at full rpm, i am tryin to run 2 x1650xt's, athlon 64 3800+ am2, and the asus crossfire 3200 mobo.....with an antec 350watt power supply. would this be why it is going mad because it needs a more powerfull power supply?
I need the 2, seen as i thought they would come with the graphics cards but no i surpose that is to simple. where can i get them from? i am at a lose as to where in the uk sells them. please help!
Cheers Will
It comes with your motherboard if it supports sli or crossfire .Unless otherwise , you should contact the graphic manufacture.
I need the 2, seen as i thought they would come with the graphics cards but no i surpose that is to simple. where can i get them from? i am at a lose as to where in the uk sells them. please help!
Cheers Will
It comes with your motherboard if it supports sli or crossfire .Unless otherwise , you should contact the graphic manufacture.
well it wasnt with the motherboard and there was that stupid anoyin sticker on the outside of the box saying "sold separetly bla bla bla" SO FUCKING ANOYING!!!!
stupid overclockers, stupid sapphire i have managed to order them seperate now. founda website from the us had to order, will take about a month to get them from over there.
It's a SCAM! You have to buy one "normal" card and one "crossfire" card to get the connectors. The only difference between "normal" and "crossfire" versions is that the "crossfire" labeled box includes interconnects.
You see, they knew you'd miss it. Now they probably want to charge you an arm and a leg for two little cables.
Not a scam you just didn't read the full description; the crossfire card has 2 different outputs, 1 DVI, and one crossfire. When you by the 2 card it has the correct cable in the box. Crossfire support doesn't equal crossfire.
No, there is no difference between the Crossfire and standard cards, the Crossfire version simply includes the INTERNAL connectors where the standard version doesn't.
You must be thinking of the earlier generation Crossfire stuff.
But they're the same card. Companies should simply include one interconnect per box, rather than selling two "different" products.
That is exactly what i thought they would do, so when you buy to cards, you have both the interconnects but no.......they have to be awkward, stupid and anoying, i surrpose all company are like it should never assume anything unless it is writen. it didnt say it didnt have the cable though, until i bought the bloody box and wen it came in the post it had that stupid label.
But they're the same card. Companies should simply include one interconnect per box, rather than selling two "different" products.
I disagree, they shouldn't do that, they should just make the interconnects cheap and plentiful, and when you order your card it should have a spot where it says "also bought with this product" Xfire interconnect ribbon length a, b, c ; $2.99, $3.99, $4.99 ; or just make them all 8in for $5 each.
Including them wastes money on people who don't use/need Xfire/SLi , that's why they usually came with SLi MoBos, that's the more realistic determinant of need, if you're going to pay $50 extra for the name bonus (axample Ultra vs SLi) then we'll throw in the cable(s). They shouldn't botther with the Xfire edition just sell the connectors cheap and plentifully, and allow all the MFR to supply them at their leisure, SLi cables didn't come witht the cards either they were mobo, that was the accepted practice, stick to that and then add the option to buy them separately IMO.
That is exactly what i thought they would do, so when you buy to cards, you have both the interconnects but no.......they have to be awkward, stupid and anoying, i surrpose all company are like it should never assume anything unless it is writen. it didnt say it didnt have the cable though, until i bought the bloody box and wen it came in the post it had that stupid label.
But you are going on the false assumption that Xfire owners represent even a healthy portion of the market, they don't. You assumed the wrong way, assuming they DON'T come with a card that USUALLY sells as an individual card is the correct assumption and the one the marketing and sales people of Sapphire, ATi and actually most companies work with.
Many of the reviews pointed out this issue in the X1950P reviews, long before the X1600Xt even hit the streets so it's not really a dark secret, just like the SLi situation.
That is exactly what i thought they would do, so when you buy to cards, you have both the interconnects but no.......they have to be awkward, stupid and anoying, i surrpose all company are like it should never assume anything unless it is writen. it didnt say it didnt have the cable though, until i bought the bloody box and wen it came in the post it had that stupid label.
But you are going on the false assumption that Xfire owners represent even a healthy portion of the market, they don't. You assumed the wrong way, assuming they DON'T come with a card that USUALLY sells as an individual card is the correct assumption and the one the marketing and sales people of Sapphire, ATi and actually most companies work with.
Many of the reviews pointed out this issue in the X1950P reviews, long before the X1600Xt even hit the streets so it's not really a dark secret, just like the SLi situation.
i no im just pissed that i kinda "trusted" them to be in the box, and that i now cant use crossfire, and now to add to that i need a new psu because mine isnt good enough to power my new system and that i have to spend even more of my money!!! fucking technology stinks ass.
i bought 2 x1650xt's from www.overclockers.co.uk Also, when i try to boot my new system i built, it doesnt boot, gives random beeps, fans sometimes spin at full rpm, i am tryin to run 2 x1650xt's, athlon 64 3800+ am2, and the asus crossfire 3200 mobo.....with an antec 350watt power supply. would this be why it is going mad because it needs a more powerfull power supply?
Cheers Will
Erm, before we go any further, a 350 watt supply is nowhere NEAR strong enough for not just one, but TWO ATI cards! 450watts is needed for one, and 550watts or more for two. However the system should at least try to boot, since the power draw of the video cards doesn't kick in until it goes into active 3D mode.
Get your system at least working with one card and have Windows installed before you worry about crossfire. Priorities Man!
Yes a computer parts distributor will be able to provide the internal ATI crossfire cable, at least they do in Canada and the US.
i bought 2 x1650xt's from www.overclockers.co.uk Also, when i try to boot my new system i built, it doesnt boot, gives random beeps, fans sometimes spin at full rpm, i am tryin to run 2 x1650xt's, athlon 64 3800+ am2, and the asus crossfire 3200 mobo.....with an antec 350watt power supply. would this be why it is going mad because it needs a more powerfull power supply?
Cheers Will
Erm, before we go any further, a 350 watt supply is nowhere NEAR strong enough for not just one, but TWO ATI cards! 450watts is needed for one, and 550watts or more for two. However the system should at least try to boot, since the power draw of the video cards doesn't kick in until it goes into active 3D mode.
Get your system at least working with one card and have Windows installed before you worry about crossfire. Priorities Man!
Yes a computer parts distributor will be able to provide the internal ATI crossfire cable, at least they do in Canada and the US.
i have managed to get it to try to boot a few times, and then it comes up with that like flashing line at the top of the screen like dos, so windows needs reinstalling. and yes i no, i have ordered a 550watt antec trio power psu from microdirect it should be here tomorrow.
Well you definately need to use a better PSU. As for the crossfire i thought the 1650's had crossfire 2 support, which allowed software crossfire to run 2 standard 1650's in crossfire without the cable, i may be wrong on that one though.
The PC should boot up fine even without the crossfire master card as it should just run both cards as seperate cards, and you'll know if you need a crossfire master card when it's running with the latest Catalyst 6.12 which supports software crossfire as if it won't let you enable crossfire in advanced mode, then you'll need a master card (though i can't see any master 1650's, so i do think they have crossfire 2...)
You're thinking the X1650 and X1650Pro not the X1650XT, the XT requires the Xfire cable.
Better than the dongle either way.
BTW, there is no such thing as a Master Card for the X1650, like the X1950 they've moved from external compositing with a TMDS trans/rec to simple chip to chip communication via the bridge.
From the buyer's perspective it's just a major inconvenience that companies actually sell the same card in two varieties: With Crossfire links, and without.
Oh, I agree completely, but they shouldn't bother with a crossfire edition, just sell the link separately and cheaply AND make sure that's clear.
Most won't need the link, some will, and the best way is to avoid wasted production/packaging/costs. Xfire and SLi users should pay any premiums.
If it was a universal cable then maybe include it for everyone, but it's this bundling that has lead to me having about 20+ USB cables and at least 7 Firewire cables (plus two I actually bought for mini to mini and 6 to 6), I don't need any more, and they're a wast of moneyh especially the Firewire cables which cost at least $1 in bulk to add to the package, and thus likely a $5 markup.
Just my opinion that of the two options, omitting them from all boxes is the better of the two. But I agree the current situation will confuse many.
If you look at the output plugs on a crossfire edition card you would see there is a difference. On a regular card it has 2 DVI or 1 DVI and 1 VGA, but on a crossfire card it has 1 DVI and a Crossfire port. The cards also differ in that a crossfire editon card has a small controller chip embedded in it and the regular one does not. you have to buy a crossfire card to use crossfire. you can't just buy the cord.
OMG we've already been through this and you're the second person to say this, and the second to be completely wrong. Why don't you read which card he's talking about first, then find out why you're wrong?
This is the "new crossfire", it uses internal bridges. It doesn't use an external cable, therfore there is no "crossfire port" on the outside.
"Crossfire" and standard cards using the new technology are identical, but the "crossfire" package includes interconnects (internal ribbon cables) where the other comes without them.
fuck sake i have to wait 2 weeks for them to be delivered. So yes i think they are hard to find in the uk probably not if you live in the usa but you can get everything in the usa.
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