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eVGA 8800GTS Problem

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December 29, 2006 2:56:09 AM

Hey guys. I recently purchased a eVGA 8800GTS on Dec. 20. First time Ive upgraded in like 3 years. Well anywayz after I got home and installed everything I loaded up CS: Source and went to go play. Thinking what a huge boost this would be from my lowly 7600GTS. Well when I got into the game my FPS was absolute crap. I mean I get 60 constant when maybe 1-2 people are around but when fights are going on or smoke is around they drop to about 30-45 .. and in some cases dip to 25 or below. Now this is totally unacceptable for a $500 video card.

I made sure to use Drivercleaner and get rid of the old drivers and ive tried both 97.44 and 97.28 drivers.
I have vsync disabled.
I tried all resolutions ranging from 800x600 to 1600x1200. Regardless of the resolution the FPS remained the same.
I also tried disabling all geatures and running the low settings and vice versa. Regardless of detail it still ran the same.

Now when Im running Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter it runs fine @ 1280x960 with max detail. So this lead me to believe that maybe it was just CS: Source. Ive spoken to quite a few people though and those with 8800GTS are getting 100FPS constant. Any help would be greatly appreciated guys. I feel like I got screwed outta $500. Heres my specs:

C2D E6300 (stock speed), ASUS P5B, 2GB G.Skill 6400 (4-4-4-12), EVGA 8800GTS

Any other stats you need I will post if requested. PLEASE HELP GUYS! Thanks in advance.

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December 29, 2006 5:44:16 AM

Whats your PSU? I get 120 min FPS with 1920x1200 100% max details. I'm using 97.44 too. It sounds like you have a lack of power. You should definitely be getting better FPS than that.
December 29, 2006 6:35:58 AM

I'm fine also with my GTS. Always over a hundred running at 1400x900.
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December 29, 2006 7:06:52 AM

Could you guys possibly show me how you hooked yours up? Just to double check. I read in the manual it says to connect the additional power supply onto the card so I did, plugged it into the PCI-E slot and installed drivers.

I have an OCZ GameXstream 700W
December 29, 2006 7:08:20 AM

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December 29, 2006 7:47:02 AM

did u plug the power cord for it. I cant remember if it runs without it or not :?
December 29, 2006 8:43:46 AM

If its only CS:S, one make sure V-Sync is off other then that, i too have an 8800GTS and in CS:S i get 100FPS @ 1280x1024 /w max detail/ 16xQ AA / with supersampling 700W PSU is fine just keep checking, do other games run badly too?
December 29, 2006 6:34:47 PM

No its just CS source that runs badly. But I only have GRAW to compare it with. I have no other games. I plugged in the extra power cord it says to so Im sure everythign is hooked up the way it is supposed to be. It would be rewally helpeful if someone could snap a pic of theirs installed so I could just double check.
December 29, 2006 7:06:57 PM

do a clean system install

:D 

make sure nothing is running in the background

if not wait till the new drivers come out
December 29, 2006 7:29:20 PM

I run an evga 8800gts on 16aa 16af @ 1680x1050 and get up around 120 to 300fps on some maps (decontra :D  ). I also oced the card to 620gpu and 890ram. So yeah, you have an issue there...

I would try renaming your css cfg file and let it create another as well.

In any case, you might want to overclock the 6300 up some more as stock speed might be hampering you. I do notice my stock speed on my x2 will really slow down the game causing stutters at high reso, had to bump it up to 2.8ghz for best frames. CSS is very cpu dependent and at the resolution you are playing it at, your cpu MIGHT be the bottleneck. I know people might be against OC but the 6300 can do 2.6ghz and not break a sweat on stock cooling.

I am able to game for hours on end at those speeds...so that floats for me. your mileage might vary.
December 29, 2006 10:35:15 PM

The thing is though is that if it was a CPU problem it would be better if I lowered the settings and resolutions. I would get better FPS. But I dont. Ive tried all resolutions with all levels of detail and I get the same no matter what.
December 30, 2006 5:31:45 AM

Actually, if it was a CPU problem, it would NOT change if you changed the resolution. Why? The CPU does calculations like physics, AI, network, etc and these settings do not change based on the graphics settings. It only gives the GPU more/less work.

So...that might lead me to believe that the problem might indeed be with the CPU. Because you can't really plug the 6 pin in wrong unless you snap the little clip to make it go upside down. And your PSU is way better than mine so I don't think that's the problem anymore.

What are your CPU temps? Can you give some SuperPi scores?
December 30, 2006 5:35:31 AM

i think it's a driver issue, so there's nothing you can do other than wait for new drivers
December 30, 2006 6:07:30 AM

Well im aware of some driver issues. The one thing is how images at a distance are getting rendered like a dark grey .. so if Im playing cs people in the distance blend in and are hard to see. But IF this was a driver issue than how come some people are getting 100-150FPS constant with the same card? Im gonna try formatting tomorrow and start fresh and see what happens. If that doesnt work Im gonan try overclocking for the first time ever and see how that goes. If none of that works I dont know what to suggest. I double-checked the connection today and everythign was prefect so I know I did it right.
December 30, 2006 6:09:24 AM

keep us posted, if a clean install doesn't help rma it
December 31, 2006 1:10:37 AM

Ok well I downloaded 3D Mark 06 and ran it two times here are the scores I got:

1st run:
7658
SM2.0 Score: 3588
HDR/SM3.0 Score: 3662

2nd run:
7670
SM2.0 Score: 3580
HDR/SM3.0 Score: 3661

So are these scores good?
December 31, 2006 1:23:01 AM

Yes your score it normal, but Have you overclocked your E6300 at all? you will achieve a massively higher score if you do, on my E6400@2.13 and my 8800GTS give me a 3dmark06 score of 8000, when i OCed the processor to 3.2Ghz(400FSB) i get a score of 10000, 8800GTS does need a fast CPU to fully utilize all the power within it.
December 31, 2006 1:23:11 AM

8800gts does require fast cpu, so oc oc oc
December 31, 2006 1:52:26 AM

Well I have a shitty case that has only 1 intake fan and 2 exhaust, and stock HSF for the cpu. How much of an OC can i expect with that? I was readin the C2D overlcocking thread on here trying to learn. Ive never OC'd before. Is there any tips?
December 31, 2006 1:56:22 AM

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Is there any tips?


wusy's c2d oc guide is the best tip you'll find around here, what more can you possibly want. all you need is a better cpu cooler
December 31, 2006 1:59:00 AM

Well I was gonna buy an E6600 .. but Ill just use that money towards new case+hsf .. what one do you recommend? I was looking at:

Thermalright Ultra-120
Scythe Mine Rev. B
Sunbeam Tuniq (i cant remember the rest of the name)

I am looking at getting the Thermaltake Armor case with teh 25cm fan on the side of the case.

Also is it worth while to get the Thermalright HR-05 for my norhtbridge or is that overkill?
December 31, 2006 2:07:29 AM

TT armor w/25 cm fan is awsome, i love it, so much space inside you can get lost :lol:  .

get Tuniq Tower 120

no need for fancy nb cooling, all i did for my p5b nb was i simply attached a small fan and it's doing its job fine
December 31, 2006 2:11:32 AM

Awesome .. seems the local computer store here doesnt carry that HS .. got any links where I can get it shipped to Canada?
December 31, 2006 2:15:06 AM

Post yer specs, mobo and ram most importantly. Even with a crappy case and HS, you should be able to push that e6300 to 2.8ghz easy.

In regards to your original problem, I'd tend to think the problem is with CS since your getting normal performance on everything else.
December 31, 2006 2:16:47 AM

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 @ Stock Speed
ASUS P5B Motherboard
eVGA 8800GTS @ Stock Speed
G.Skill PC2-6400 2GB 4-4-4-12
Seagate 7200.10 320GB SATA HD

I dunno what else you would need.
December 31, 2006 2:20:39 AM

Yep, that should do it. Go into your BIOS and start increasing the FSB 10ghz. Stop, and reduce 10 ghz once your system becomes unstable. You can do other stuff included in wusy's guide to OC-ing C2Ds, but thats the basic.

Run PCMark05 and 3DMark05, 06 to test stability.
December 31, 2006 2:27:44 AM

Quote:
Yep, that should do it. Go into your BIOS and start increasing the FSB 10ghz. Stop, and reduce 10 ghz once your system becomes unstable. You can do other stuff included in wusy's guide to OC-ing C2Ds, but thats the basic.

Run PCMark05 and 3DMark05, 06 to test stability.


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@ inphared for cpu & memory stability you should use dual instances of prime95 & memtest86. also you can monitor stress temp @100% load with TAT.
December 31, 2006 2:30:24 AM

Nice to see that you took my advice inphar3d! (**NoOoOoOoOoOoB** here)
December 31, 2006 2:45:12 AM

Well I am going to go buy this new case tomorrow and gonna order tha HS from online. Once they arrive Ill let you guys know how things turn out. Thanks for all teh help so far.
December 31, 2006 2:53:01 AM

keep us posted. gl
December 31, 2006 4:13:47 AM

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The thing is though is that if it was a CPU problem it would be better if I lowered the settings and resolutions. I would get better FPS. But I dont. Ive tried all resolutions with all levels of detail and I get the same no matter what.


No you don't. You are more CPU bound at lower resolutions.

That said, I have E6300 running at 2.24GHz. That is just 20% overclock and I believe it is enough since it easily beats Opteron 165 running at 2.6GHz. Just change RAM ratio so it stays at 800MHz and push the FSB to 320MHz and you will most likely be fine. E6300 is a cool chip, it doesn't even need voltage increase.
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