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December 29, 2006 3:12:05 AM

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Shopping/ShoppingCa...


GIGABYTE GA-M51GM-S2G Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard = $73

OCZ Gold 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory = $232

AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans 2.4GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor = $100 I want close to the faster this AM2 class...your suggestion?

Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2b 1pk w/Upgrade Coupon for Vista - OEM = $134

COOLMAX CUG-700B ATX 12V( V.2.2) 700W Power Supply 115/230 V
Antec Performance One P180 Silver cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case = both for $230

MITSUMI Cold Gray 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model D359M3 - OEM = $6.00

$32 shipping

total approx. $812
Can they fit all together without problems?

TIA

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December 29, 2006 5:18:12 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

pqi TURBO 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory $212

Eventhough I want to 2 GB ram but also don't want to go way over $200. This one is abit lower than before, you think it will be ok?.

thank you..
December 29, 2006 6:11:19 PM

I don't remember seeing that but thank you very much...now I ready to order..

thanks again
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December 29, 2006 6:18:30 PM

Why does that seem a bit expensive to me? $812 just seems like a lot for a rig with a single core cpu.


The stuff in my sig cost me $730 shipped. I didn't upgrade my OS, but you don't have a vid card listed. My vid card cost more than your OS does.

Let me look at something before you order. Will post back soon.

*edit* Ah, missed the PSU/Case combo there. Hmmm...
December 29, 2006 6:41:34 PM

Hope you haven't ordered yet. Check this out:

COOLMAX CUG-700B ATX 12V( V.2.2) 700W Power Supply
Antec Performance One P180 Silver cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower
Combo ^^^ $230

Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2b 1pk w/Upgrade Coupon for Vista
GIGABYTE GA-965G-DS3 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel G965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard
OnBoard Video ^^^

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Good ram and gives more flexibility on voltages. Saves money too.

MITSUMI Cold Gray 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model D359M3

$752 shipped. Leaves room to get the OCZ ram if your set on it, or get an SATA HDD if you don't have one. The Gigabyte mobo only has one IDE port which means a max of 2 devices. ie. One HDD and one cd/dvd.

Not to mention it'll flat smoke the rig you posted above.

*edit* Doh! I forgot the CPU. Will have to reconfigure a few things. Will get back soon.
December 29, 2006 10:30:47 PM

COOLMAX CUG-700B ATX 12V( V.2.2) 700W Power Supply
Antec Performance One P180 Silver cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower
Combo ^^^ $230

Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2b 1pk w/Upgrade Coupon for Vista
GIGABYTE GA-965G-S3 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel G965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard
OnBoard Video ^^^

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz 2M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Good ram and gives more flexibility on voltages. Saves money too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682..." target="_blank">MITSUMI Cold Gray 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model D359M3[/url

Sorry about the goof up. Comes to $921.18 shipped. That's $109 more than your original build, and it will be better. You didn't mention a vid card. Have one already, or planning to use on board vid? might think about trimming a little on your case/psu if need be. You can get a quality psu and case for less than $230.

If that's too much for you budget, let me know how much you can spend, and I'll see what I can come up with.
January 2, 2007 9:19:58 PM

Thanks for you help. I just have few more questions...First of, somehow I like AMD more than Intel, I don't know why or may be I been used AMD for many years and like it????... If you know the good, the bad, and the ugly side between those two, I am listenning.

These are what I need: New system for games and AutoCAD

New OS since I want it to work with new system. Those old OS's I had are good for daily use...internet etc...

New PC case with power supply stay at the bottom of case, like Antec P180. (I like front panel lock or seal if possible, don't like my kid messing with the button.

Any 2GB RAM to work with new system. Average price

Like Seasonic M12 PS because of detachable cables/wires, but price? no thanks...look elsewhere for decent performance and good price.

Had 250GB Maxtor DiamondPlus 9 (good for AutoCAD, I guess), probably need new SATA HDD for gaming, 100GB should do it.

The mobo you selected need video card ( I thought I would use on board video card) So if I buy the one you selected then have to add the video price too with average price.

In all, just like I said AMD AM2 if possible, otherwise Intel is ok...

New system = $1000 flat

Medium gaming and AutoCAD that's it.

I really appreciate for you time..

Thank you.
January 2, 2007 10:47:30 PM

^^^ what he said. In my exp, the most compatible ram for am2 is kingston & corsair. They use 1.8/1.9v by default. This too:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Is it just me or that some people buy memory based on prices? Not compatibility? Go to their sites & use the ram configurator to find compatible ram.

Quote:
Shopping Cart

CD / DVD Burners (RW Drives)Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Pioneer 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Read Black ATAPI Model DVR-111D - OEM
Model #: DVR-111D
Item #: N82E16827129001
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Remove Save Move To Wish List $32.49 $32.49

ATX Computer CasesQty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Antec LifeStyle SONATA II Piano Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 ATX 12V V2.0 for AMD & Intel systems Power Supply - Retail
Model #: SONATA II
Item #: N82E16811129155
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Remove Save Move To Wish List $99.99 $99.99

Internal Hard DrivesQty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3160811AS
Item #: N82E16822148149
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

Remove Save Move To Wish List $57.99 $57.99

Video CardsQty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 PNY VCG7600SXPB GeForce 7600GS 256MB GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: VCG7600SXPB
Item #: N82E16814133192
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

Remove Save Move To Wish List $89.99 $89.99

Desktop MemoryQty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR667D2N5K2/2G - Retail
Model #: KVR667D2N5K2/2G
Item #: N82E16820134046
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

Remove Save Move To Wish List $217.99 $217.99

Intel-compatible MotherboardsQty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Open Box: ASUS P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - OEM
Model #: P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP
Item #: N82E16813131028R
Return Policy: Open Box Item Return Policy
Remove Save Move To Wish List $139.99 $139.99

ProcessorsQty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6300 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6300
Item #: N82E16819115005
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

Remove Save Move To Wish List $184.00 $184.00
Subtotal: $822.44


I recommend this setup. Either 7600 or X1600. The 450w psu is plenty for this pc. The case has a lockable door. The ram is 100% compatible with the board. You could add a 2nd 120mm case fan in the front for extra cooling.
January 2, 2007 11:31:15 PM

I'm sorry I didn't meant by based on price by itself. I seen alot of rams out there with price range from $100-$500 or even more per 1GB RAM. But what I am saying is that the higher price range are food for overoclocker experts. I don't oc'ker so why not find price fit my budget and compatible with what i have had. (I forgot to mention compatible :)  )...

Just curious, if I have intel mobo and intel cpu, can this cpu fit in any other amd mobo? or amd cpu into any intel mobo?


Meanwhile, I will check out those items you list about.

thanks


just check out the mobo, if I buy this mobo...just the mobo that i will get??

The pictures shown are from the NEW version of this item. If you purchase this Open box product you will receive an OEM BAREBONE, meaning it is just the item itself. Accessory items are NOT INCLUDED with Open box products. Accessories are shown in the pictures so that customers will know what is missing from the item.
January 4, 2007 2:20:22 PM

Sorry if I sounded harsh.

Intel & AMD cpus are NOT interchangeable. Heck, even an old Intel & new Intel CPUs are not. It's all about the cpu socket. The board I suggested works with most socket 775 CPUs. You can see this info on asus's board's specs site. Click cpu support on the left.

Don't worry. I picked the parts that are 100% compatible with each other. However, if you change 'em over & over, they may not. Ask newegg if you're in doubt.

Lastly, OEM means no accessories, manual, cd, & packaging. it usually is the part + an antistatic bag or a brown box. Don't get OEM. Get retail.
January 4, 2007 9:05:42 PM

I'm trying to build a PC for Digital Audio Recording. These are the components I'm using:
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz E6600
ASUS P5W DH Deluxe
Antec P180 case
CORSAIR DDR2 800 Mhz 2X512 RAM
Antec True Power 2.0 480 ATX power supply
ATI Sapphire Radeon 550x video Card
Zalman CNPS9500 LED Heatsink
Seagate 7200 RPM 80 GB SATA
Seagate 7200 RPM 200 BG SATA
ADS PYRO API-311 Firewire card

I assembled everything yesterday, and when I cut the power on all of the fans work, the heatsink fan worked, and LED on the motherboard came on. However, The front LED on the Case turned on then went out(this may be a case thing, and not a big deal), there were two beeps, and my monitor says "no signal." I've tried swapping out the memory into different spots, I've checked all of the connections over and over again, and still the result is the same. I suspect that it is either the RAM, VIdeo Card, or a bad MOBO. I've yet to try messing with the CMOS. Is that a possibility?

Thanks in advance.
January 5, 2007 10:38:26 AM

Excellent! Love that case.

http://www.asus.com/999/download/products/1198/1198_10....

See if you ram is on the list.

Part Number Type Size Latency Sel
CM2X1024-5400C4 DDR2-675 (XM2S-5400C4) 1GB 4-4-4-12-2T
CM2X1024-6400 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 1GB 5-5-5-15-2T
CM2X1024-6400PRO DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 1GB 5-5-5-15-2T
CM2X512-5400C4 DDR2-675 (XM2S-5400C4) 512MB 4-4-4-12-2T
CM2X512-5400C4PRO DDR2-675 (XM2S-5400C4) 512MB 4-4-4-12-2T
CM2X512A-6400 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 512MB 5-5-5-15-2T
TWIN2X1024-5400C4 DDR2-675 (XM2S-5400C4) 1GB Kit (2 x 512MB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X1024-5400C4PRO DDR2-675 (XM2S-5400C4) 1GB Kit (2 x 512MB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X1024-6400C4 DDR2-800 C4 1GB Kit (2 x 512MB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X1024-8500 DDR2-1066 (XM2S-8500) 1GB Kit (2 x 512MB) 5-5-5-15-2T
TWIN2X1024A-6400 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 1GB Kit (2 x 512MB) 5-5-5-15-2T
TWIN2X2048-5400C4 DDR2-675 (XM2S-5400C4) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-5400C4PRO DDR2-675 (XM2S-5400C4) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-5400C4PT DDR2-675 (XM2S-5400C4) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 5-5-5-15-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C4 DDR2-800 C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C4D DDR2-800 C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C4PRO DDR2-800 C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400PRO DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 5-5-5-15-2T
TWIN2X2048-8500C5 DDR2-1066 (XM2S-8500) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 5-5-5-15-2T
TWIN2X2048-8500C5D DDR2-1066 (XM2S-8500) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 5-5-5-15-2T
TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF DDR2-1111 (XMS2-8888) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2XP2048-6400C4 TWIN2XP2048-6400C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
VS1GB533D2 DDR2-533 (PC2-4200) 1GB 4-4-4-12-2T
VS1GB667D2 DDR2-667 (PC2-5300) 1GB 5-5-5-15-2T
VS1GBKIT533D2 DDR2-533 (PC2-4200) 1GB Kit (2 x 512MB) 4-4-4-12-2T
VS1GBKIT667D2 DDR2-667 (PC2-5300) 1GB Kit (2 x 512MB) 5-5-5-15-2T
VS256MB533D2 DDR2-533 (PC2-4200) 256MB 4-4-4-12-2T
VS2GBKIT533D2 DDR2-533 (PC2-4200) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
VS2GBKIT667D2 DDR2-667 (PC2-5300) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 5-5-5-15-2T
VS512MB667D2 DDR2-667 (PC2-5300) 512MB 5-5-5-15-2T
VS512MBKIT533D2 DDR2-533 (PC2-4200) 512MB Kit (2 x 256MB) 4-4-4-12-2T

If it's not, your ram is incompatible. Remove the board & have only cpu, cpu fan, ram & video. Boot it up. Try each stick in each of the slots. Attach speakers to the board for beep codes.
January 6, 2007 9:03:21 PM

Hi akhilles, thank you for helping me out. I have had few more questions though.

Your selections:

Shopping Cart

CD / DVD Burners (RW Drives)Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Pioneer 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Read Black ATAPI Model DVR-111D - OEM
Model #: DVR-111D
Item #: N82E16827129001
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Remove Save Move To Wish List $32.49 $32.49

ATX Computer CasesQty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Antec LifeStyle SONATA II Piano Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 ATX 12V V2.0 for AMD & Intel systems Power Supply - Retail
Model #: SONATA II
Item #: N82E16811129155
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Remove Save Move To Wish List $99.99 $99.99

Internal Hard DrivesQty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3160811AS
Item #: N82E16822148149
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

Remove Save Move To Wish List $57.99 $57.99

Video CardsQty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 PNY VCG7600SXPB GeForce 7600GS 256MB GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: VCG7600SXPB
Item #: N82E16814133192
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

Remove Save Move To Wish List $89.99 $89.99

Desktop MemoryQty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR667D2N5K2/2G - Retail
Model #: KVR667D2N5K2/2G
Item #: N82E16820134046
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

Remove Save Move To Wish List $217.99 $217.99

Intel-compatible MotherboardsQty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Open Box: ASUS P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - OEM
Model #: P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP
Item #: N82E16813131028R
Return Policy: Open Box Item Return Policy
Remove Save Move To Wish List $139.99 $139.99

ProcessorsQty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6300 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6300
Item #: N82E16819115005
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

Remove Save Move To Wish List $184.00 $184.00
Subtotal: $822.44


My selections; not changing anything much, just adjust quantility..

ATX Computer Cases
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Antec Performance One P180B Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel for durability through the majority of chassis 1.0mm cold rolled steel around the 4 x HDD area ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: P180B
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$25.00 Mail-in Rebate
Remove Remove Move To Cart Move To Wish List
$129.99 $129.99

CD / DVD Burners (RW Drives)
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
2 Pioneer 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Read Black ATAPI Model DVR-111D - OEM
Model #: DVR-111D
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Remove Remove Move To Cart Move To Wish List
$32.49 $64.98

Desktop Memory
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model VS1GB667D2 - Retail
Model #: VS1GB667D2
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Remove Remove Move To Cart Move To Wish List
$104.99 $104.99

Intel-compatible Motherboards
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 ASUS P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Remove Remove Move To Cart Move To Wish List
$194.99 $194.99

Internal Hard Drives
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3250824AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3250824AS
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Remove Remove Move To Cart Move To Wish List
$74.99 $74.99

Operating Systems
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2b 1pk w/Upgrade Coupon for Vista - OEM
Model #: E85-04964
Return Policy: Software Return Policy
Remove Remove Move To Cart Move To Wish List
$139.99 $139.99

Processors
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6300 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6300
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy
Remove Remove Move To Cart Move To Wish List
$193.00 $193.00

Video Cards
Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 PNY VCG7600SXPB GeForce 7600GS 256MB GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: VCG7600SXPB
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Remove Remove Move To Cart Move To Wish List
$89.99

Selection changed:

Harddrive, RAM, PC case (like PS in the bottom so I can modify things on top), can you recommand power supply around 50-100 dollars? something in good quality, don't need the look, beside what I have changed, everythings are the same.

thanks again.
January 7, 2007 11:17:15 AM

Excellent choices! The ram is compatible with the board, according to Corsair site.

I have looked & here are my psu recommendations:

ENERMAX Noisetaker II EG495P-VE ATX12V 485W Power Supply - Retail $79.99 (2 x 4-pin cpu)

FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX500-A, 2.0 version, 2 SATA, PCI Express, 500W - Retail $84.99 (1 x 4-pin cpu)

SILVERSTONE SST-ST50EF ATX12V 500W Power Supply - Retail $87.50 (1 x 4-pin cpu)

ENERMAX EG565AX-VEFMA2.0-SLI ATX12V 535W Power Supply - Retail $89.99 (1 x 4-pin cpu)

Tagan Black TG480-U1 ATX12V / EPS12V 480W Power Supply - Retail $89.99 (2 x 4-pin cpu)

SeaSonic S12-430 ATX12V 430W Power Supply - Retail $89.99 (2 x 4-pin cpu)

SILVERSTONE Zeus SST-ST52F EPS12V 520W Power Supply - Retail $94.99 (2 x 4-pin cpu)

SILVERSTONE ST50EF-Plus ATX 12V 2.2 500W Power Supply 100 - 240 V - Retail $99.99 (1 x 4-pin cpu)

The P5B-DX has 1 4-pin cpu power connector. Newer & more powerful boards have 2. I would take a psu with 2 x 4-pin (4+4) cpu power connectors. However, my psu has only one & my board has two. My manual says it's ok to use one. It's working fine. 4+4 is a bit more future-proof.
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