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New build 4 a noobbuilder. Suggestions are welcome.

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December 29, 2006 10:54:01 AM

This will be my gaming comp. Playing games like BF2. Dont want the price to run away way to far :) . Dont know much about the cooling but I might need few extra fans. Thanks in advance for all help.

Price around 1000-1600€


1x Hiper HPU-4M530 Type-M Black 530W ATX

1x Cooler Master Mystique 631, Svart Aluminium

3x Western Digital Caviar WD2500KS 250GB 7200rpm 16MB SATA2
My idea is to run one for win and storage, two with raid for games and storage

1x HIS Radeon X1950XTX 512MB GDDR4, PCI-Express, ViVo, 2xDVI/Tv-Out/HDCP - Should I get another card??? Cheaper???

1x DDR2 PC6400 - 2048MB(or 2x1024) - any suggestions are welcome.

1x Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz Socket LGA775, 2MB, BOXED w/fan maybe faster???

1x Asus P5B, P965, Socket-775, ATX, GbLAN, 6xSATAII, PCI-Ex16 OR
Asus P5W DH Deluxe,I975X,Socket-775,ATX, SATAIIx7, Dual-GbLAN, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex16 Or other suggestions?
December 29, 2006 1:56:55 PM

Like he said and get a DX10 video card. 8800GTS/GTX and a brand name psu. (OCZ,ANTEC,ENERMAX,FSP,etc)
December 30, 2006 10:15:11 AM

So more then 2gb ram or am I wrong?

Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 2048MB CL5 Kit w/two matched CM2X1024A-6400 Dimm's. 2gb ram atm

But isnt raid faster then one single driver?

and a graphic card like this:
XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640MB GDDR3, PCI-Express, 2xDVI/HDTV/HDCP, 320-bit
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December 30, 2006 11:02:31 AM

RAID is slightly faster. But you might be better off having a 74GB WD Raptor as your main HDD (with Windows and all that stuff) to quickly run things from, and then get a cheaper 300GB drive (the Maxtor DM10 300GB is pretty good value for what you get). I don't think RAID is really worth spending your money on unless you really want that slight performance increase. If so, just put a pair of WD Raptors in RAID and install all your games and things there, then put mp3's and movies on the 300GB Maxtor DM10 (or some other cheapish model).
December 30, 2006 4:37:32 PM

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RAID is slightly faster. But you might be better off having a 74GB WD Raptor as your main HDD (with Windows and all that stuff) to quickly run things from,


But that HDD cost like twice as much as a Western Digital Caviar WD2500KS 250GB 7200rpm 16MB SATA2.
December 30, 2006 5:28:08 PM

Looks like the comp will be something like this in the end. Will the psu do, enough power in it? Any other things I really should not have or have?

2x Western Digital Caviar SE16 320GB SATA2 16MB 7200RPM

1x Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz Socket LGA775, 2MB, BOXED w/fan

1x Asus P5B, P965, Socket-775, ATX, GbLAN, 6xSATAII, PCI-Ex16

1x Gainward GeForce 8800GTS 640MB GDDR3, PCI-Express, "BP8800GTS-640M-TV-DD"

1x Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 2048MB CL5 Kit w/two matched CM2X1024A-6400 Dimm's

1x Cooler Master Mystique 631, Svart Aluminium, Window

1x Sony floppy 3,5" 1,44MB svart floppydisk intern

1x NEC DVD-brännare AD-5170 IDE Svart OEM DVD+R/+RW/DVD-R/-RW (Dual layer)

1x Enermax Liberty 400W, 6 SATA, ATX/EPS, 2xPCI-E, 20/24pin
December 30, 2006 6:18:01 PM

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Like he said and get a DX10 video card. 8800GTS/GTX and a brand name psu. (OCZ,ANTEC,ENERMAX,FSP,etc)


Hiper is a brand name you idiot.
December 30, 2006 7:00:06 PM

I respect the 74GB Raptor, but the new Seagate 7200.10 is very close to it in performance, so to go above the Seagate, you need the 150GB Raptor. And I agree that RAID is not a big benefit from what I read, especially for a new builder unless they are inclined and have time.
December 30, 2006 7:03:26 PM

Looks like pretty good balance, but I admit I wonder about if 400 Watts is a good enough margin of error. I don't know. One thing: the high quality power supply will do better near it's limit than the cheaper one. If it's a cheap one, it needs a bigger buffer, and I'd like 100watts of buffer, because it's not so much money for the extra security against problems.
December 30, 2006 7:10:04 PM

My bad, I didn't know WD had put out a reduced capacity version of the new 150GB Raptor! "The 7,200 RPM Seagate Barracuda ES, utilizing SATA/300, is a storage/service monster available in 250 GB to 750 GB capacities. The 74 GB Western Digital Raptor offers less capacity and only utilizes SATA/150, yet it is a much better performer. It is a lower capacity version of the popular and speedy Raptor-X 150 GB, and is fine-tuned to the demands of wide area storage and speedy server access."
December 31, 2006 11:33:38 AM

Will get this psu. Should be enough in power, should I have more then 4xSATA?

Hiper PSU ATX 580W Svart, 18dB,120mm Fan,4xSATA,2XPCI-E,20/24pin

or

Cooler Master iGreen Power 500W, 120mm fan, 6xSATA, ATX/EPS, 2xPCI-E 20/24pin

got less power but more sata.
December 31, 2006 12:05:50 PM

I have the Hiper PSU, and it's amazing (I have the Type-R, and the modular setup is sooo nice!). That said, I wouldn't get one now, as they don't support the Intel P8 connector without you buying an additional adapter. Plus, 580W won't be enough for your next build.
December 31, 2006 12:24:32 PM

Oh, and I'd strongly recommended against the Western Digital Caviar drives. That's the drive in this computer, and it's pretty unreliable. Every now and then, the drive with freeze. The most dodgy thing is that giving the computer a hard thump will cause the drive to start turning again and I can carry on from where I was before 8O
January 1, 2007 3:54:11 PM

Your suggesting that I should get a psu with even more power then 580w?
January 1, 2007 5:43:42 PM

I'm afriad so. However, as numerous other posts have said recently, you are unlikely to need more than, say, 700W for a long time, due to power limitations at the home (which should mean that computers will have to start becoming more efficient and consume less power).
Hiper do a 730W PSU.
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