quick advise please

[edklite]

hi guys I have somebody at my forum that has a:

Intel P4 - S478 - Cel 2.0

she wants to replace it with a:

AMD Sempron 2800+ Processor Socket AM2 Manila 1.6GHZ 1600FSB 128KB L2 Cache 62W 90NM

now theoretically the Intel is faster but can anybody confirm this for me, since I'm not a big Hardware expert myself. But I want to make sure I give her right advise, so your input is very appreciated thank you.

so in short

which of these 2 is the fastest?

TIA

 

[The_Abyss]

Ask what they want it for, and also why they specifically settled on that CPU as the possible upgrade choice.

 

[edklite]

its just for her son's use nothing special, and she is just getting the motherboard and the processor and she wants to know if the mentioned amd is faster then the celeron

 

[sandmanwn]

That Sempron will blow that old Celeron to bits.

The Celeron is like a one legged man in an @ss kicking contest.

(its not even a Celeron D)

 

[sandmanwn]

its just for her son's use nothing special, and she is just getting the motherboard and the processor and she wants to know if the mentioned amd is faster then the celeron

she will need new memory as well.

does this person have any other options available other than a Sempron upgrade?

 

[edklite]

she is getting these

AMD Sempron 2800+ Processor Socket AM2 Manila 1.6GHZ 1600FSB 128KB L2 Cache 62W 90NM Retail Box

ASUS M2NBP-VM/CSM mATX AM2 QUADRO210+NF430B DDR2 PCI-E16 PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound Video Motherboard

Mushkin SP PC2-5300 1GB 1X1GB DDR2-667 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Memory

she has already ordered it what would you recommend? it would need to be in the price range of the amd

 

[jitpublisher]

The Sempron is much faster than the Celeron.
However, what did she pay for the parts she orderd?
I would think that she could have done better for the money, unless they are practically giving it to her.

 

[sandmanwn]

Seems to be too late since she has already ordered it. It will definitely outperform the Celeron, no problem.

I would have recommended an Athlon instead of the Sempron. I think the Sempron 2800 is going for ~$50, the low end Athlon 3200+ i think is around ~$75.

 

[edklite]

she paid 300$ for them

 

[jitpublisher]

Comparing from Newegg, those parts you listed will run around $250.
If she orders the same thing from Newegg, she should be able to bump up the processor to an Athlon 64 3800+ and still stay at $300.
Anyway, that's what I see.

 

[edklite]

thx the only problem is that she is in canada so the prices are a bit higher there.

I like to thank you all for taking the time to help, I wish you guys a great weeked and a happy new year

 

[m25]

hi guys I have somebody at my forum that has a:

Intel P4 - S478 - Cel 2.0

she wants to replace it with a:

AMD Sempron 2800+ Processor Socket AM2 Manila 1.6GHZ 1600FSB 128KB L2 Cache 62W 90NM

now theoretically the Intel is faster but can anybody confirm this for me, since I'm not a big Hardware expert myself. But I want to make sure I give her right advise, so your input is very appreciated thank you.

so in short

which of these 2 is the fastest?

TIA

WHAAAAT?!!!
Sorry to deceive you but the AM2 Sempron 2800+ wipes the floor with a 2.0G Celeron. I had a Celly 2.0 and even overclocked @ 2.67 it performed like a miserable 2.0GHz P4.
In overall performance, the Sempron 2800+ is even slighly better than a 2.67GHz P4 and you need a CeleronD clocked @ 3.0G or above to beat a 1.6GHz sempron.

 

[evilr00t]

hi guys I have somebody at my forum that has a:

Intel P4 - S478 - Cel 2.0

she wants to replace it with a:

AMD Sempron 2800+ Processor Socket AM2 Manila 1.6GHZ 1600FSB 128KB L2 Cache 62W 90NM

now theoretically the Intel is faster but can anybody confirm this for me, since I'm not a big Hardware expert myself. But I want to make sure I give her right advise, so your input is very appreciated thank you.

so in short

which of these 2 is the fastest?

TIA

WHAAAAT?!!!
Sorry to deceive you but the AM2 Sempron 2800+ wipes the floor with a 2.0G Celeron. I had a Celly 2.0 and even overclocked @ 2.67 it performed like a miserable 2.0GHz P4.
In overall performance, the Sempron 2800+ is even slighly better than a 2.67GHz P4 and you need a CeleronD clocked @ 3.0G or above to beat a 1.6GHz sempron.

I think they were brainwashed with the "Intel Clockspeed FUD" that pervades the general public. I hate this piece of FUD, it annoyed the hell out of me in the Athlon 64 era, when people building systems around me were saying, "but the Pentium is at 3.2 GHz, and the Athlon is at 2.2 GHz, isn't the Pentium faster?".

 

[m25]

Seems to be too late since she has already ordered it. It will definitely outperform the Celeron, no problem.

I would have recommended an Athlon instead of the Sempron. I think the Sempron 2800 is going for ~$50, the low end Athlon 3200+ i think is around ~$75.

If we go to $75, I would advice my last find:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103732R
$109 but it's a dualcore and it's dirt cheap for the performance it gives.

 

[edklite]

I meant theoretically from the 2.0GHz vs 1.6GHz angle how ever I did not know how those chips did in actuality which is why I asked here. THX for your input

 

[m25]

I think they were brainwashed with the "Intel Clockspeed FUD" that pervades the general public. I hate this piece of FUD, it annoyed the hell out of me in the Athlon 64 era, when people building systems around me were saying, "but the Pentium is at 3.2 GHz, and the Athlon is at 2.2 GHz, isn't the Pentium faster?".

I hate it too; there've been endless buyers tricked by the GHz myth and the worst thing is that we'll still hear fora long while the "how many GHz?" question.