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ok im the guy that started the whole coolit tread... now i changed my mind :)

now im gonna get the same case:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193&products_id=4428

with the PA120.3 rad
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_200&products_id=3944

and about 6 fans(3 push 3 pull)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=49&products_id=20832

and my pump/res for this set are
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_201&products_id=3112
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=318&products_id=3615

Now that set up will be ONLY and primarily for my 2 Geforce 8800 GTXs which are water cooled by the danger den 8800 blocks from BFG

Now i need a second set up to water cool my CPU and chipset
I will have a kentsfield core 2 extreme qx6700 for my CPU
and i will have asus striker extreme for my chipset

the water block for my chipset is:
http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=258&cat=46&page=1


the water block for my cpu(if u have any other suggestions please tell me):
http://www.crazypc.com/products/93070SP.html

the radiator will be the same as above(i was thinking maybe i would get the HE series with higher power fans, what do you think)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_200&products_id=3944

the fans, i would get 3(it's gotta be from performance PCs)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=49&products_id=20850

the pump/res could be:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=201&products_id=20655
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=201&products_id=20552

i was also considering this reservoir:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=318&products_id=20585
Since it will close to the CPU and right above the PCI slots where the radiator tubing will come in from. and maybe get this for the pump:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=201&products_id=3112

I can't really decide because i don't know how much pressure i need from the pump to go through the 2 blocks at a high speed/flow rate. Also if you can please tell me how powerful of a pump i need for the geforces, i heard they take alot of water to water so i got the 1/2' tubing but they also need high flow rate, and i will have SLI so it will be considered 2 blocks.

i will hold the second set up, the rad/fans in the back of my PC with this:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1957

the first set up as u can see in the case, comes installed on the top of the case

now my questions for you are these:

should i get the HE series rads instead of the PA series and get higher speed fans for better cooling?

are the fans that i picked good?

are the water blocks good?

should i switch loops?

are the pumps enough?

is the mp655 too powerful or too weak for 2 geforce 8800s? would the mp355 be good?

would the mp655 or mp355 be powerful enough for the CPU and the chipset?

If the mp355 is powerful enough in either case, should i get the alphacool top reservoir?

What thermal paste should i use on the chipset and CPU and how do i apply it? sorry im asking this but theres too many answers.

I will be using 1/2' Tygon tubing. I want this to be a high pressure high flow maximum performance system, it will be built by performance pcs, not the computer but the water cooling system

Just in case people are confused:

first loop

Custom PA160.3 with 6 fans located on top of my case -> mp655 pump -> micro reservoir -> BFG DD geforce 8800 -> BFG DD geforce 8800

second loop

Radbox PA160.3 with 3 high speed fans located in the back of my case -> pump unknown -> reservoir unknown -> Core 2 Extreme qx6700 Aquaxtreme mp-05 SP LE -> asus striker extreme danger den 680i block

P.S: What do you guys think of http://ekwaterblocks.com/ they have nice blocks im like there acetal 8800 block and maybe their CPU and chip blocks, anyone have any experience with them?

Sorry i asked alot of questions, im really confused. If you can please help me i'd really appreciate it. I talked to some people, and the more i know, the more i change my choice and the harder the decision becomes. If you experts can please give me your opinions and recommendations i'd really appreciate it. And some answers to my questions. I know alot of new comers have similar questions also.

Thank you for reading. And thank you in advance for your help.
 
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You can get some other 120mm fans that move more air, make less noise, and cost less money.
 
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well my budget for the case+cooling is like 1000, 1500 MAX

the phase change cooler i found cheapest at 800 so that leaves 700 for case, radiator, pump, reservoir, fans, water block for chipset...

i want to get the phase change cooler, but i also want top of the line water cooling for my GFX and chipset

so if i go phase change i still got some questions

which radiator should i get for GFX and chip blocks? you said the PA120.3 but is that the best? what about the HE series?

which reservoir should i get?

will the hydropump be enough for the 2 GFX blocks and chipset, i need high flow cooling? and where the hell am i gonna plug it in my case?

you said the case isn't good, which case is better? i really want performance-PCs to make the case for me, i know i'll f*ck it up some how if i have to cut holes myself.

i've read on other forums that the push pull method is effective, i know the PA120s are made for low CFM fans(130 CFM max) so i picked a pair of 60-70 CFM fans so when combined they make about 130CFM power
 
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1. found 1/2 fittings for the res, problem solved

2. where the hell in my case do put it do i put it?

3. the wiring for the pump is out of this world... do u know how impossible it is to wire that thing in ur PC? need a rely card and a Ph.d in electrical engineering...

4. i need fan recommendations lol the most powerful fans on the market for radiators... i need to cool the black ice radiator 480 like no other, im thinking of something with about 200 CFM? maybe less

5. im gonna ask the people at extremesystems.org what size of hole i need in the case at the bottom for the phase change, im getting a phase change unit made custom from xtremesystems.org well a poster there... they perform almost 1.5x better then the mach or vapochill especially i hear on quad cores where those units are outdated
 
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ialready PMed him, he said he can have it ready by mid feb and promised me -30 load at 5 GHz and warrenty for 3 years, gonna put a 400 doller deposit down friday
 
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Hey chuck i saw your computer having the rad box with 3 fan rad with push/pull i was wandering hows the vibration/sound dampening on that? what about wiring? think you can fit a 4 fan push/pull set up on there? And does anyone know is i get the CM stacker and i get 3 of the 5.25 bay front fans if i can still fit 2 DVD burners up top and maybe a fan controller?

and hey tacos i found 220 CFM 120mm fans lol but i think 175 will be my limit if i do push pull lol that black ice rad is gonna be cold!!! if can get this set up into a rad box i'll be really happy cause then i save money on hard drive enclosures, my ram heating fears will be gone, i don't have to pay 600 bucks for a custom case from performance PCs

BTW tacos i found a new res http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2191/ex-res-41/Innovatek_Fass-O-Matic_Barrel_Header_Tank_-_Aluminum_Color_500509.html?tl=g30c97#blank
instead of your big 250mm res, this ones Aluminum and if i ever find an adapter i want to screw it on to a 120mm fan for cooling on the side :))

if i get the
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2232/ex-res-86/XSPC_Passive_250mm_Reservoir_-_BLACK.html?tl=g30c97
and if i get the CM stacker with the front fans that i can mount it inside on the fans but i don't know if this is possible, is it?

and im thinking of getting the CM stacker 832, what do you guys think about that case? the 3 fans in front and 1 fan on top plus 1 fan on rear and like about 1 or 2 on side panel hooked me cause im gonna be OCing the memory so i want really good air flow for the dominator fans and i want to cool my reservoir.
 
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ok excuse my last post, screw the stacker what do you guys think about the Lian li modular cube case?
http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/4708/103/
i just saw the review and this case is awesome especially for cooling my hard drives, memory, everything
 
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