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December 30, 2006 3:52:10 PM

I'm getting in the process of building a new system to replace my current AMD 2600+. I will be using some of the componets from the old system in the new system for now until I get more funds to upgrade. The components I would like to use from the old system are the 3.5 floppy, NEC 16XDVD burner, Plexor 52X CD burner, SATA 80GB Maxtor hard drive, ATA 80GB hard drive. Plus my new spectre 22" wide screen LCD monitor.

The system I would like to build is for home use with casual gaming. I do plan on Over clocking and want a system that I will be able to upgrade as CPU's, GPU's, and so forth come down in price. With all that said I want to start of by getting a CPU that I can stabley run in the mid 3ghz range. I'm very torn as if I should go with a D 805 or a C2DE6300. Both seem to work very well in OC, but the price of the D805 is very attractive at 1/2 the price of the C2DE6300. So any imput on that front would greatly be appricaited and please remember I want to do this on a tight budget and plan on upgrading in he future as prices drop.

Below is what I had in mind, Please let me know what you think and any sugestions are greatly appriciated!

Case: NZXT LEXA-NP Black/ Silver Aluminum Construction Plastic Front Panel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: LEXA-NP
Item #: N82E16811146018
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
(I just really like the look of this case!)

Mother board: ASUS P5N-E SLI Socket T (LGA 775) NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: P5N-E SLI
Item #: N82E16813131142
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
(I have read good reviews,even though they are limited because of the newness of the board plus this board I believe lets me use my old hardware for the mean time till I can afford to upgrade)

Video Card: BFG Tech BFGR76256GTOCE GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: BFGR76256GTOCE
Item #: N82E16814143049
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
(price and performance)

PSU: Rosewill RP600V2-S-SL 600W SLI Ready-ATX 12V V2.01 Power Supply - Retail
Model #: RP600V2-S-SL
Item #: N82E16817182032
(Inexpensive and good reviews)

CPU: Intel Pentium D 805 Smithfield 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model HH80551PE0672MN - OEM
Model #: HH80551PE0672MN
Item #: N82E16819116249
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
(Cheap! Good OCing)

RAM: WINTEC AMPX 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 3AXT6400C5-1024K - Retail
Model #: 3AXT6400C5-1024K
Item #: N82E16820161029
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...
(good reviews, but not sure about if it would do well with OC)

CPU Cooler: ZALMAN 9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail
Model #: 9700 LED
Item #: N82E16835118019
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...
(good reviews)


Am I missing anything? Thanks in advance for all your input and sugestions!
Thanks, Chuck

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December 30, 2006 4:13:04 PM

What is your total budget? How much will the system above cost you?

I'm assuming you're on a fairly tight budget. 1st thing I'll recommend is a different case. Spending over $130 after shipping on a case can kill a budget that could otherwise build a very nice rig. Especially since it doesn't include a PSU.
December 30, 2006 4:15:02 PM

The 805 is half the price of an E6300 because its twice as hot as the sun, and performance is terrible without an oc, go with the E6300, you'll be much happier.

The Zalman 9700 is a decent cooler, but a scythe infinity or a tuniq tower 120 are much better, and the price is about the same.

Go with a 1900gt instead of the 7600gt, considerably better performance for a couple bucks more.

The ram is ok, but the timings are kinda loose, This is a better choice. If you got a 2gb kit you would have a better selection of ram that would oc better.

The P5N-E is a pretty good mobo, but a P5B Deluxe or a P5B-E would be better for oc'ing.

Stay away for rosewill power supplys! there higher end models are mediocre at best, this is a better psu, much better quality then that rosewill one for about the same price. you'll have a better selection of power supplys in the $120 range.
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December 30, 2006 5:01:13 PM

thanks for the input. My budget is under 1K and cheaper if possible without realy sacraficing things.

The case, I relize is not cheap, but it is on sale for $99 with rebate and looks are important for the room at my house it will be in.

PSU, will 450watt be enough? I would like to stay under $100 for it, but want something that will last and not need to be replaced as I upgrade.

I will check into the video card sugestion. The main reason I chose the card I did is because it is on sale after rebate for $78.99, thats about $175 savings over the x1900gt.

The CPU cooler tuniq tower 120 great choice that I wasn't aware of..Thanks!.

As far as Ram goes, I want to only get 1GB for now, should I get a 1GB stick or 2 512mb sticks?

As for the motherboard, I gues the reason behind looking at the P5N-E SLI is because of its nvida chipset and the ability to go to 1333fsb, thus probabley giving more ability to upgrade over time, what do you guys think?

Thanks again for the input!!!
December 30, 2006 7:17:11 PM

I agree on getting the 6300. I just don't think single cores are worth it right now. You should be able to throw together a pretty nice rig for under a grand. Even with a $100 case. :) 

Can you link everything you're thinking of getting at this point with a total dollar figure? I'd throw something together, but I'm at work and it's kinda busy.
December 30, 2006 7:24:40 PM

Don't get the D805, get a C2D... up to you but you asked for the advise (PS the guy before me doesn't know what he's talking about, the D805 is dual core but it still sucks).

Get 1 stick of 1gb ram then upgrading will only use up 2 slots instead of all 4.

Get a better PSU and a cheaper case, looks are not as important as reliability (unless you own a cavalier with coffee can and big spoiler then no comment and do whatever you want).
December 30, 2006 7:55:36 PM

Case: NZXT LEXA-NP Black/ Silver--- $99 After rebate
( I'm not completely sold on this case, but unless I get some much better solutions that will pass by the wifes criticle eye)

Mother board: ASUS P5N-E SLI Socket T (LGA 775) NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel ----$144.99
(I chose this one due to fact I can use some of my old stuff before I upgrade, but I'm up for suggestions that would suite the use of hard drives I have and the dvd burner and the floppy. I don't think I will ever use the SLI feature)

PSU Antec NeoHE 500w---$74.00 after rebate ( I saw this one rated very well what do you think compaired to the fortron 450w suggested earlier?)
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

G. SKILL 2x512mb DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)---$124.00
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...
( not 100% sold on these because of some reviews)

Video Card: BFG Tech BFGR76256GTOCE GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express ---$78.99 (after rebate) or @ $150 for X1900GT

E6300 retail---$184.00
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

tuniq tower 120 ---$50.00

Grand total for system with 7600GT card = $754.98

Grand total for system with X1900GT card = $825.99

So again any suggestions would be appriciated!!!!
December 30, 2006 8:35:50 PM

Quote:
(PS the guy before me doesn't know what he's talking about, the D805 is dual core but it still sucks).

Bad wording on my part, but still not the same as the C2D.

I wouldn't rust the reviews on Newegg. No telling whether or not some of those people have any clue what they're talking about. Just from my brief experience, the G. Skill is good ram, and OCs nicely. I have the cas5 instead of 4, but still the same brand.

The 1900 is the better card, just depends how much gaming you'll do and whether you can afford it in your budget.
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