Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

Choose between brands: Corsair, Kingston, or Super Talent

Last response: in Memory
Share
December 30, 2006 8:13:22 PM

I am building a computer and I have to choose between two brands of memory. The choices are:
-CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
-Kingston HyperX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

Unfortunately, I cannot choose the Super Talent that I want :( 

Considerations: I will be using an eVGA nForce 680i mobo, a E6600 C2D processor, and I plan to overclock in the near future. I've been told by the person I'm buying the memory from that eVGA recommends the Kingston (might have something to do with nVIDIA endorsing it as SLI-approved).

Considering that the price is exactly the same, which would you recommend?
December 30, 2006 9:58:40 PM

hmmmm...why doesnt it boot in dual channel?:s

and (i have been loking at hyperX too) swhat makes kingston a bad OCer?
December 30, 2006 11:51:58 PM

hmm, so it wont boot unless RAM has 2.1 volts being supplied to it and generally new mo/bos will have less, 1.8v, say?

but then how comes it will work with only one to start with if they both need 2.1v? or do you mean dual channel needs 2.1? (that doesnt sound right:p )
Related resources
December 31, 2006 8:16:22 AM

Quote:
I shall be doing a review a tomshardware in the near future once I can fully test it to the limits, expect it in a week or so I'm only fourteen but don't let that fool you, I know what I'm doing, and all my tests have been done with an asus crosshair motherboar and amd x2 4000 cpu. The results may be different if using an intel board such as the rd600 (techincally already released, just not in stores) or 680i series boards Best of luck


Oh wow is this you? That's weird... small world eh.

P.S you're too knowledgeable for a 14 year old :) 
December 31, 2006 1:10:19 PM

Quote:
What exactly was the super talent you can't get?

SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX2GC4 with 4-4-3-8 timings.

Quote:
As for ocz, the problem runs into voltage

I think I understand. When I was 14, I was messing about with computers quite a bit. I broke them, had to fix them again, and knew my DOS 5. But since that time, I've just purchased computers from Dell and Alienware and never OC'd. Now I'm trying to get back into it, but I'm afraid that it might be too late!

This guy I'm buying the parts from is helping me put it all together, so I'm assuming he knows about the OCZ voltage. He doesn't know about OCing, however, so I'm going to need to do that on my own. I've read that the best results come from the E6300 and E6400 processors, though they aren't sure why. But I've also read that some versions of the E6600 chip can OC like :twisted: it's just that you never know exactly which version you're getting.

Fortunately, I can get the OCZ ram and it's 90$Canadian cheaper. Here's the exact specifications.
-2048 MB DDR II 800 Memory 240 Pin 28002048ELDCGE-K (OCZ) (1024 x 2)

Is that any good?
December 31, 2006 2:28:51 PM

Quote:
I think I understand. When I was 14, I was messing about with computers quite a bit. I broke them, had to fix them again, and knew my DOS 5. But since that time, I've just purchased computers from Dell and Alienware and never OC'd.


Sounds like you're writing my bio! :) 

Out of the two you listed I'd go for the corsair. It is unlikely that either set of sticks will leave you wanting, though.
December 31, 2006 11:36:40 PM

Quote:
yeah, that's me

I'll take that as a compliment :wink:


That's what it was :lol: 
December 31, 2006 11:58:30 PM

Them Corsairs are great. I used em myself and no problem whatsoever.
January 1, 2007 4:04:18 PM

Other than personal preference
I see no reason why the SuperTalent would not work.
As chuckshissle stated the corsairs will not disappoint you.
January 1, 2007 9:45:55 PM

Just like any product on the market.
Quality may vary with each production run.
It may improve or degrade but still meet the guarantied rating of the manufacture.
Don’t count out corsair because of a few user imperfections.
Mostly the demands are different between each individual.
Take the SuperTalent ram modules between you and I.
I can clock 1200 MHz and you can not.
Is it the ram or is it your memory controller on chip from your AMD based system?
What I am trying to say is pull in all the data before you condemn or praise a product.
8)
January 1, 2007 10:16:49 PM

Well what would you say if I had not one, but two entirely separate Kingston modules from different sources from different months (from the Value line, but still both from Kingston) that were both PHYSICALLY too large to fit in the DIMM slot?

I'm on a lifetime boycott of Kingston for that. Immature, to say the least, but I'm still doing it.
January 1, 2007 10:42:32 PM

184-pin DDR1 PC3200 hand selected for having the most perfect looking box... >_>

It was not my first DDR1 stick. It was somewhere around the 12th.
January 1, 2007 10:49:10 PM

Just because somebody mentioned that being mad at a company because you ended up with one stick that fried is a bad reason.

I will take the randomness crown though, for entirely unrelated reasons.
January 1, 2007 10:49:58 PM

Thank you for your responses.

In case I didn't make it clear enough, I absolutely cannot buy the Super Talent memory.

So I'm to understand that Corsair is no longer a good brand for OCing, Kingston is and has always been crap for OCing, though it's good for stability, and OCZ is what I should go with for a good overclock?
January 1, 2007 10:57:22 PM

That's about the gist of it, yeah.

I need a spell checker.
January 1, 2007 11:53:19 PM

Quote:
I never got a fried module, I say they suck because of the IC they switched to, they used to use d9MGH, but now they use promos

and you weird one, get firefox 2.0, has a built in spell checker


Firefox had its chance. Actually it was building an empire up to 1.0.7.

Then 1.5 came. I got Opera.
January 1, 2007 11:57:04 PM

Quote:
As I told you, I am only 14


This is why I quit going to forums...and why I barely ever started. :-\
January 2, 2007 12:17:13 AM

too right, its all about experiance...you could be 8 years old and know more than all of us put together:p 

but anyway, no ones mentioned crucial?
a long time ago when i was in the loop crucial was a name out there (i dont remember if it was for good or bad reasons) but anyway, RAM in the UK has just shot up in price:/ thank god i'm not building a system now...

but theres this crucial RAM for the same as this Corsair RAM...which is what i could see most poeple getting

now that corsair switched to crap ICs, and apparently kingston is shit for OCing ( and i cant find OCZ DDR2 800 anywhere anymore - it used to be nice and cheap, too) where does crucial stand?

also, what makes memory OCable? OCing memory is something i still dont fully grasp, CPU OCing i get perfectly but its integration with memory OCing i still dont get properly. and i have no idea what makes an OCable IC.
January 2, 2007 12:29:08 AM

hmm, so do you know if crucial use those decent ICs?

do you knwo why corsair stopped using good ICs...just money?

so, a good IC rated at DDR2 800, 1.8v can take alot more volts (2.2/2.3?) and they can run higher than 800?

i think thats the main thing that confuses me, DDR2 800 can run higher than 800? how is that done? i've seen people talk about emmory OCing automatically as a result of doing something to the CPU (FSB?)
January 2, 2007 12:42:13 AM

corsair, corsair, corsair, i will swear by them.
January 2, 2007 12:26:53 PM

Quote:
corsair, corsair, corsair, i will swear by them.

Please read the entire thread and you'll see that we just finished with that conversation. No offence meant. I was just about to buy the Corsair until Tacos mentioned the new ICs, whatever that means. I can understand most of what was said, but I have a long way to go it seems. Not sure if I want to get to that level of understanding, or just have intelligent 14-year-olds tell me what to buy!

I've seen that many people go with G.Skill too, but I can't buy that either.

Is OCing with 4gb of memory very different than with 2gb? If I was to get the OCZ now and add 2gb of Super Talent later, would OCing two different types of memory with a total of 4gb be even more different? Sorry for the novice questions, I'm just curious.
January 2, 2007 12:28:44 PM

Quote:
ocable IC simply means that the IC will run far higher than its rated for

By the way, does IC mean "internal clock" ? I suddenly had a passing moment of clarity.
January 2, 2007 12:47:17 PM

lol!

i think it means "integrated circuit":p 
January 2, 2007 1:11:17 PM

Quote:
Also, 64bit environments and vista will take advantage of 2gb or more, but unless you plan to run vista, 4gb will be serious overkill

I want to go that route eventually, that's why I was asking. My New Year's resolution is to get 4gb running on this machine by 2008. :D 
January 2, 2007 3:43:50 PM

I can't afford 4gb yet unfortunately :(  but I will in about 9 months, which is when I plan to upgrade.

I wanted to go x64 immediately, but I've read that many of the device drivers aren't ready yet and it's pointless to have 32-bit device drivers for hardware in a 64-bit environment. My cousin showed me a copy of the x64 version of XP with unlimited licences for educational purposes. Unfortunately, I declined the copy; I should have taken him up on it!
January 2, 2007 4:29:52 PM

List of SLI RAM for use on eVGA motherboard cited from eVGA forums tech "Ev"

Here is a list of memory that is reported to be compatible with the EVGA 680i SLI motherboard, this list will be updated frequently. Please email eparra@evga.com with other memory models so I can add them to this list. Thanks.
SLI Ready memory:

Above 1066 MHz
Corsair TWIN2X2048-9600C5
Corsair TWIN2X1024-9600C5D ES
Corsair TWIN2X2048-9136C5
Corsair TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF

1066 MHz
Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5
Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5D
OCZ OCZ2N100662GK
OCZ OCZ2N10661G

900 MHz
OCZ OCZ2N9001G
OCZ OCZ2N9002GK

800 MHz
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4D
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C3
Crucial BL1286AA804
Crucial BL6464AA804
Crucial BL12864AL804
Kingston KHX6400D2LLK2/1GN
Kingston KHX6400D2LLK2/2GN
A-DATA Vitesta Extreme Edition DDR2-800 CL4


Memory: Regular

Above 800 MHz
Kingston KHX8000D2K/2G
Kingston KHX7200D2K2/2G
Patriot PDC21G8000+XBLK
Patriot PDC21G8500 ELK
OCZ FlexXLC Edition PC2 9200

800 MHz
Patriot PDC22G6400LLK
Mushkin XP6400
OCZ OCZ2G8002GK
OCZ OCZ2P800R21G
Corsair XMS6405v4.1
G.Skill F2-6400PHU2-2GBNR
G.SKILL F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK
Team Xtreem PC2-6400 800MHz 3-3-3-8
Team Xtreem PC2-6400 800MHz 4-4-4-10

667 MHz
Corsair VS512MB667D2
Buffalo D2V667C-1G/BJ
Patriot PDC21G5300LLK
PQI 5400 Turbo
Kingston KHZ5400D2K2/1G
Geil GX21GB5300SX
Muskin xp2 5300 2x1gb

533 MHz
Kingston KVR533D2/512R
PQI MAB412UOE 512MB DDR2 533




EVGATech - Ev

I would of course recommend the Kingstons for stabilities sake... its nice to have RAM that works from the start.

But don't discount the Crucials either... they are also Micron Chips since Micron owns Crucial... not a big stretch for them.

$289 for the pair of DDR2 800 modules at newegg...
January 3, 2007 5:24:34 PM

Quote:
bah, ask anyone here and they will tell you that age doesn't mean anything


And in response to the post following that one..

It's not about what you know. It's about what you don't know that you think you know...
January 3, 2007 5:35:04 PM

Quote:
bah, ask anyone here and they will tell you that age doesn't mean anything


And in response to the post following that one..

It's not about what you know. It's about what you don't know that you think you know...

oh yes indeed? and what, exactly, do i think i know?

**edit** actually that probably wasnt aimed at me, you were just slurring Tacos right?****
January 4, 2007 2:46:34 AM

Quote:
well, I'd have to disagree, corsair used to have great quality, but they have slipped greatly, I can say from owning some of their dominator ram myself

Super Talent is the one I trust


How can you afford all this stuff if you're 14...?
January 4, 2007 3:12:23 AM

Quote:
by not being a pain in the a$$ like someone I'm trying to deal with right now and getting a few jobs

Sorry if I'm in a bad mood, but this guy is just a real jackass (to be nice, i won't name him)


They're called "parental units"
January 4, 2007 3:14:07 AM

Quote:
How can you afford all this stuff if you're 14...?

I was 14 when I bought my first (and only) mountain bike (I've owned several Dutch-style city bikes since then). I painted houses and....I forget how you call this stuff, the black tar like liquid used on driveways to fill in the cracks and make them look nice and dark (genite?).... Anyway, I painted houses and put that black stuff on driveways for an entire summer to save up enough money for that bike. It cost more than 1000$ and that was 14 years ago. Damn, saying that makes me feel old. I still have the bike, I rode it all over New England, the American Mid-West and across Iceland. It moved with me to the Netherlands where I rode it all around, then moved to Poland where riding it and not something else saved my life more than once from the crazy drivers, and now it's with me in Norway. I still ride it and get it tuned up every couple of years. It still looks sweet, and it serves as a nice reminder of work ethic and resilience! I wish everything lasted that long and I wish every dollar I've made since then (or Kroner rather) meant that much to me!
January 4, 2007 3:20:01 AM

*floats down memory lane*
January 4, 2007 6:47:09 AM

Quote:
How can you afford all this stuff if you're 14...?

I was 14 when I bought my first (and only) mountain bike (I've owned several Dutch-style city bikes since then). I painted houses and....I forget how you call this stuff, the black tar like liquid used on driveways to fill in the cracks and make them look nice and dark (genite?).... Anyway, I painted houses and put that black stuff on driveways for an entire summer to save up enough money for that bike. It cost more than 1000$ and that was 14 years ago. Damn, saying that makes me feel old. I still have the bike, I rode it all over New England, the American Mid-West and across Iceland. It moved with me to the Netherlands where I rode it all around, then moved to Poland where riding it and not something else saved my life more than once from the crazy drivers, and now it's with me in Norway. I still ride it and get it tuned up every couple of years. It still looks sweet, and it serves as a nice reminder of work ethic and resilience! I wish everything lasted that long and I wish every dollar I've made since then (or Kroner rather) meant that much to me!

Sounds like a kid who was smart enough with his money to at least buy something worthwhile. The really smart kids invest young and retire very very early. :-)
January 4, 2007 3:25:36 PM

Quote:
*floats down memory lane*

My wallet is floating now that I don't have those heavy banknotes holding it down.

I ended up having to go with 2gb of the Corsair XMS2 Twin2X (w Act. Light) DDR II 800 memory instead of the OCZ because they were out of stock. This stuff was more than a third of the price of that mountain bike! Hope my wallet doesn't float away...

They were also out of the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro and the guy recommended I get the Thermaltake Big Typhoon (CL-P0114) Pipe CPU Cooler rather than the Zalman 9700 (CNPS9700LED) CPU Cooler. He said they're the same, just that the Big Typhoon is cheaper. I hope that's true.
!