G'day mate

So I got an interview for a job in Sydney this coming Thursday. As it is, this will be the first time being interviewed for a job that requires relocation.

So, what exactly am I allowed to negotiate for in such a deal? Things I am allowed to request and things I'm not allowed to request?

For instance, being engaged: is that enough to secure that my fiance comes along or do they require us being married?

If anything I'd like everything (me and the company) to have some common ground during negotiation, but I also do not wish to short sell myself and end up loosing to perks I'm entitled to.

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Don't forget to negotiate a reasonable bombay hooker allowance. [/Bomber]

Seriously though good luck. I've never had such negotiations so I'm not even going to speculate on what you could / should be looking for.

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Negotiation? That's an interesting way of looking at it, though a defeatist one if you ask me. If you are prepared to negotiate, then in your own mind you have already conceded defeat.

To me an interview is not a negotiation, it's a sale. You are selling yourself.

There will me other products on the market, but none will be you!

Put together the package you need as a bare minimum and use that as a starting point for your product. If you need to take your bird, then them not paying isn't an option.

If this is your companies first overseas post then they will be as new to this as you are. If not, why the fcuk are you asking us and not contacting the cnuts who are already abroad?

Just a few thoughts to help you along and I wish you the best of luck too.

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Vokofpolisiekar wrote :

So I got an interview for a job in Sydney this coming Thursday. As it is, this will be the first time being interviewed for a job that requires relocation.

So, what exactly am I allowed to negotiate for in such a deal? Things I am allowed to request and things I'm not allowed to request?

For instance, being engaged: is that enough to secure that my fiance comes along or do they require us being married?

If anything I'd like everything (me and the company) to have some common ground during negotiation, but I also do not wish to short sell myself and end up loosing to perks I'm entitled to.

Make sure you spell check anything you give them, so you don't risk losing the position to someone whose spelling isn't as loose.

Grammar check too!

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He could simply secure a conviction for a minor offence, stealing a loaf should get him a trip to convict land, albeit one way!

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Tom_Smart wrote :

Negotiation? That's an interesting way of looking at it, though a defeatist one if you ask me. If you are prepared to negotiate, then in your own mind you have already conceded defeat.

To me an interview is not a negotiation, it's a sale. You are selling yourself.

There will me other products on the market, but none will be you!

Put together the package you need as a bare minimum and use that as a starting point for your product. If you need to take your bird, then them not paying isn't an option.

If this is your companies first overseas post then they will be as new to this as you are. If not, why the fcuk are you asking us and not contacting the cnuts who are already abroad?

Just a few thoughts to help you along and I wish you the best of luck too.

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Well, let me first correct the ambiguous opening from me. I used to work for an American company before my current one. I applied to this American company earlier this year again and they contacted me out of the blue with a post in Sydney. So this is were I am at now.

I agree with you that negotiation isn't the best course, and I should sell myself to them. My humble nature just allows for me not to go in overly greedy. But kudos for reminding me of the fact that I need to put forth my minimum requirement.

So basically I'm just probing what a company will expect me to ask vs what i need and how close or far off the two notions are of each other.

I'm obviously looking for relocation perks a lot. To the effect of selling everything this side and then getting a fixed amount for getting most back on that side. Sending stuff across just isn't viable except for materialistic items.

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JustPlainJef wrote :

Make sure you spell check anything you give them, so you don't risk losing the position to someone whose spelling isn't as loose.

Grammar check too!

LOL. I will make use of you for a reference.

List your references:
Name: JeFF
Position: Grammar police CEO
Description: He are a inspirational factor in my life to strive for speling supremacy.
Location: USA when Wingding is at home

But honestly: can Australia be taken seriously for grammar and spelling?

Secundus: Is it wise to work for an American company right now?

Reply to Vokofpolisiekar

You are kidding right? Have you seen a full on Bomber post when he's only half cooked?

Is it wise to work for a US firm - NO! I'll try and avoid them following my experiences, and that was before the crunch.

Reply to audiovoodoo

Maybe contact a recruitment agency and ask about positions in Convict land. Then see what kind of assistance they offer, it'll at least get you a feel for what is offered as standard and what is just wishful thinking.

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At any rate. . . you should only get more than you get now, otherwise, why change?

Reply to dwellman

He lives in SA, even the thought of bomber chasing his girlfriend has to appeal more than rolling blackouts and riots.

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Ah. And it's that much closer to Hawaii.

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Plus they have great unrestricted internet access... [/No more titty surfing for him]

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Well, gotta face reality some time.

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And dodgy ratings for games.

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audiovoodoo wrote :

Don't forget to negotiate a reasonable bombay hooker allowance. [/Bomber]

I concur

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Tom_Smart wrote :

To me an interview is not a negotiation, it's a sale. You are selling yourself.

There will me other products on the market, but none will be you!

That sounds like gaythumper managerial talk to me.

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Coming from a fcuking missionary, that's just too rich.
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Hey Vok, remind me, how did your mob do?
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Hey Vok, remind me, how did your mob do?
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Well Tom, they did EXACTLY what was expected of them. They lost 0-2. Spectacular stuff indeed - CB thinks he is a striker. I only stopped drinking yesterday 10am after starting just when the game finished on Saturday. I'm still out of sorts today...

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