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Finally, a PC upgrade - suggestions?

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January 5, 2007 10:32:44 PM

After coming up on 4 years in March, its time for my upgrade. I was impressed, I planned on this machine lasting me at least 3 years and maybe 4 back in 2003 and I lived up to it (with minor additions).

After a couple months of saving money and waiting for hopefully mid range dx10 cards (not waiting any longer), I have saved more than what I had expected. Originally I was looking at $800, then $1000, and now a $1200 build.

Motherboard: Asus P5N-E - $141.99 Out of Stock at Newegg
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

CPU: Intel E6400 - $221
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

Power Supply: Antec True Power Trio TP3-650W 650W - $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

RAM: 2 Choices, Help Decide
OCZ S.O.E. 2Gb (2x1gb) DDR2 667 - $219.99-$30 Rebate

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

G.Skill 2Gb (2x1gb) DDR2 800 - $224.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Video Card: BFG Geforce 8800GTS - $449.99-$30 Rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Total without S/H: $1162.96 or $1167.96
Total after Rebate without S/H: $1102.96 or $1107.96
The remaing $100 are for various items (no bother explaining) I need and S/H costs.

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Brands I will not switch with. Asus and BFG. I have had excellent experience and especially customer support with both companies multiple times.

Power Supplies? I'm kind of alien with them, since with the build in my sig I originally used a $15 w/ S/H Okia 550W power supply that lasted me 3 years. And after reading the power supply nazi's post here, and failures with my friends power supplies and other people I know, I'll gladly spend over $100 now. I'd look for suggestions on power supplies, lets keep the price range about the same.

Why the E6400? I plan on upgrading to quad core in the future. It will suffice for now and I do not see the extra 2mb cache making a LARGE difference for that extra $95 on the E6600.

SLI? Yes upon upgrading to a quad core in the future, I plan on going SLI with another 8800GTS.

What I use my computer for? Well my profession is graphic design and I do enough gaming to occupy my time to make it worth while.

Overclocking? Planning on it, nothing serious. I've done it before and have achieved minimal results due to inferior products, like cheap house brand ram.
January 6, 2007 4:42:41 AM

Get a more expensive power supply(A cheap one(like that one) fried my mobo 2 weeks ago) and if you are not overclocking, use the the DDR2 667 RAM. No point in the 800 unless you can bring your CPU's front side bus speed up to it. With DDR2 800 RAM and a Core 2 Duo you are looking at this....

CPU FSB: 266.5 (Intel quad pumps this to get the 1066)
RAM Speed: 400 MHz (Ram is doubled above actual rate.)

With 667 you are looking at
CPU: 266.5
RAM: 333.

If you are not overclocking, I urge you to save money and go to slower RAM. It can only send info to the CPU as fast as the CPU will allow.
January 6, 2007 1:05:14 PM

Thanks for the input.
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January 6, 2007 2:00:18 PM

Stay with the 800mhz, you will only save a few bucks with 667. I've been checking newwegg for my own C2D build and the prices are about the same. Even if not OCing the head room is nice and it might come in handy when you up grade.
The mobo you listed will not work in SLI with two 8800s http://www.techpowerup.com/?22503 . The 8800 needs a true x16 slot to run. This my be solved in the future, I'm not sure if it's a hardware or software issue.
You didn't list optic drives but I would go with a sata dvd if you plan on getting one. Also you didn't list a case just make sure you have room for your vid card and a lot of air flow. Those 8800 are beast.
January 6, 2007 8:20:36 PM

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Stay with the 800mhz, you will only save a few bucks with 667. I've been checking newwegg for my own C2D build and the prices are about the same. Even if not OCing the head room is nice and it might come in handy when you up grade.
The mobo you listed will not work in SLI with two 8800s http://www.techpowerup.com/?22503 . The 8800 needs a true x16 slot to run. This my be solved in the future, I'm not sure if it's a hardware or software issue.
You didn't list optic drives but I would go with a sata dvd if you plan on getting one. Also you didn't list a case just make sure you have room for your vid card and a lot of air flow. Those 8800 are beast.


Thanks a bunch for finding that. I'll have to look at other motherboard options other than the striker.
January 6, 2007 8:38:10 PM

Definitely use the 800 ram. ASUS and OCZ do not tend to work well together. Ive heard a lot of accounts of problems with the motherboard recognized OCZ.

As others have said, the Antec PSU you have is a good choice. Should be enough power.

If your gonna upgrade to quad core then theres not much point in going for the e6400. go witht the 6300 and use the money you save towards another motherboard that supports your SLI.
January 7, 2007 6:53:49 PM

Upon further reviewing and switching around my build options, I'm going to scratch the SLI plans. I'll keep the Asus 650i board because I want to not use the 965 chipset and the 975 boards from Asus, like the p5w dh deluxe have options and a price I'm not interested in, $80 for a bunch of features I'm not going to use.

So instead of saving $30 on a 6300, I'll stick with the 6400 and remain with the $80 cheaper board.

I may buy an identical drive to what I have now, my 250 sata 1 hd to run raid.
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