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July 11, 2006 2:07:39 AM

Hello,
I have two wireless routers, a netgear wpn824 and a linksys wrt54g. Can I use these on the same network? My netgear is my main router with a secure wireless through wpa-tkip which I want to leave alone for my desktop and laptop. I want to use the linksys but leave it unsecured for anyone that comes to my home with a laptop and also for my kids who all have PSPs and want to connect to the internet with them. Also, we have a xbox and a playstation that use wireless but all of which I mentioned always have a problems connecting with the security on. I know this because if I turn off the security, all of the devices connect with no problems.

So, I thought if I had an additional wireless router attached without any
security, the games and others that come over with a laptop could connect easily with out me having to configure something. If this is possible, would it compromise the security of my netgear and the desktop and laptop connected to it?

Thank you for any help
Bendy

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July 11, 2006 1:56:21 PM

Setup one as a AP/Router and the other attached to the AP/Router with security off, DHCP off and acting as just a AP. That should work for you.
July 11, 2006 6:30:29 PM

WITH NO SECURITY, That is bad news. Just give them the WPA key, make it simple 64 chr long, just kidding on the length. But do not leave it open. You are just asking for trouble.

If you must.

Set it up in a DMZ so your main system is still protected.

Remeber you are still responsable for any users using your system. Including any drive bye that is sending porn and spam.

Another Option.

If you connect your secure router (WAN) into the LAN of the non-secure router, you will accomplish what you are trying to do. As long as the firewall is a SPI type you should not have to many problems.
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July 12, 2006 8:46:56 PM

You can just configure the Linksys router to act only as a plain Acess Point by disabling the DHCP and NAT of WRT54G and set the wireless security to disable. Don't forget to change the LAN IP of WRT54G to the same IP segment of the Netgear router (let's say if your Netgear has a LAN IP of 192.168.0.1 change the WRT54G to 192.168.0.2) so you can easily access the WRT54G setup page in case you need to make certain changes. Regarding the cable connections, make sure that one of your Linksys Ethernet ports (not the Internet port) is connected to the Netgear's Ethernet port as well.
July 12, 2006 9:24:23 PM

Connecting as you suggest circumvents all of the security. You just installed a full open device on to a secure network.
July 13, 2006 3:29:53 PM

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Connecting as you suggest circumvents all of the security. You just installed a full open device on to a secure network.


Geez, I didn't notice it. :lol:  Anyway if you want to secure your wireless network you can always use Wireless MAC Filtering, after you configured the Linksys router as an Access Point.
July 13, 2006 8:50:57 PM

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Anyway if you want to secure your wireless network you can always use Wireless MAC Filtering, after you configured the Linksys router as an Access Point.


Good point!!
July 13, 2006 8:51:46 PM

You can also just turn off the SSID broadcast and hook up unsecurely.
July 13, 2006 9:07:54 PM

MAC's are easy to spoof and netstumbler will locate the hidden SSID.

If you want it open you have it. But when the police comes knocking on your door for distributing porn. It's your ass on the line.

I have someone driving my neighbor in the wee hours of the morning (3am) tring to connect to systems. I have been plotting their times and date. They do have a pattern. They are spreading out the time between attacks to > 2 weeks. Once I know I can predict there next attack, they may have a visitor waiting in blue. Unless I set a bogus maching to trap them. I have a pc not being used. I may connect it to a DMZ with no protection. And let them play with it, with no internet. :lol:  :lol: 
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