The enviroment

Can kiss my arse. Why do people even make cars with only a fcuking elastic band for an engine? I had the unfortunate experience of driving a Toyota Aygo from Halifax to Liverpool and back. Never again, fcuk that, I'd rather walk. I really don't understand the point of those pieces of sh!t. Granted it used about 30% of the fuel the Jag would have, but surely it can't be worth it. Seriously what's the point of having a car that you have to plan an overtaking manoeuvre an hour in advance, just so you can build up the speed. I manager to get the piece of crap up to 80mph going downhill and it nearly fell apart. Going uphill is like putting on the brakes, seriously the thing only just made it over the Pennines. At seven grand, I seriously considered leaving the fcuker in Liverpool and buying another when I got back to Halifax, they are that sh!t. I might still burn the fcuker later, just to make myself feel a bit better.[/rant]

I would not call that Aygo trash part of the environment...

on topic: I've heard that the peugot107 is a decent ride (in its class).. however it got the same engine and (under)carriage so what's up with that then?

Not that I know of....

I've designed for the European market before though..... I know how the designs go over there....

I'm guessing that this experience does not dispose you positively towards our forum hippie.

I like my Prius.

That doesn't help GM ... who I do a bit of work with either.

The Big US car manufacturers are really in the poop at present.

If they made a decent cheap hybrid I'd buy one.

I just fail at overtaking ... unless it is a granny with a shopping trolley or a Lada Niva.

I'm so happy for you that you like your car. This was about the Aygo though.. different kind of breed. The only similarity I can see, is that the Prius is a turd as well (different turd but still, such a environment friendly car, that every single one of them has to be shipped back to Japan to be demolished, for fck's sake. Not exactly cradle to cradle technology).

If you need fuel economy, get a G-Wiz.

Personally, I wouldn't enter the piece of **** in Robot Wars.

The Prius looks like a 2-CV that's been squashed. The GWiz has less pull than a roller skate and a poorer NCAP rating probably.

At least you can make them look like over priced gas powered hot wheels.

http://bored-night.com/index.php/F [...] t-Car.html

Easy to steal. Pick them up and put them in back of a truck.

Recycle it. That's an easy $50 and you're doing someone a favor.

Could it possibly be that Tom experienced a slightly larger shock to the system than most. I mean just in terms of HP there has to be a couple of hundred odd difference between the Jag and the Aygo.

My folks ran one for a year, no problems. VERY low cost to run they managed to get to the south coast and back without any drama. Fine, they are not motorway cars but what do you expect. You're taking a GT car and comparing it to a town runner... no comparison. Try the parking in town in a tight space test this afternoon and your opinion might change a bit. Horses for courses as they say.

Scouse fixed.

Is this thread about AV's bicycle? If so, what were you doing on Av's bike Tom and more to the point how did this per chance meeting happen?

If not. Then bollocks.

I've just been looking at a new bike but I'm not sure I can afford all the extras... [/Alt linky]

Neither, just the monkey with the cup to collect the chage from the crowd...

Nice bike if AV <> hanging on the pole.

BMW is coming out with a Cooper electric.

208 HP, max speed 95mph (meh) and 150 mile range.

FINALLY! An electric car that has some zip to it that wont cost $250K!!!! (Tesla?)

Speaking of motorbikes....

A guy goes into hospital for a cateract operation. He is readied for surgery and his surgeon pops in to visit him to explain the delay. The surgeon explains that there is a temporary shortage of donors. When asked how long the wait is likely to be, the surgeon walks over to the window and looks outside. 'Shouldn't be too long now, it's raining' he replies.
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That's a worrying story. [/Cyclist]

A. Winamp just pulled up No Good from Pantera... Niiiiiice....

B. (and more importantly) Finally got my Christmas presents from my parents figured out WELL before Christmas...

http://www.tourtracker.com/shows/m [...] 77-1004203

Tix were ordered about 30 minutes ago. Unfortunately, they are nose bleed, but hey, we will be there...

Now that's a propper bike! We have a couple of girls that ride the Critical Mass on old Schwins. Not sure I'd like to hit any hills on it but for the ride back up from the pub that thing would be a blast.

Shhhhh...! (yes, technically - although you have to be doing something stupid to get pulled over)

Damned double vision...too many M&Ps.....

Except the cyclist should be under the wheels, not over.