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Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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"peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
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> Thank you
> peter
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> wrote in message
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>> Different company. But there is no rule that says it has to be a
>> particular IP. It is up to the manufacturer and in fact a lot use the
>> same IP. It is not the one exposed to the internet anyway. Don't worry
>> about it. Just use yours to communicate with the router.
>>
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>> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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>> "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
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>>> Colin
>>> Maybe I did not phrase my question right......I have the same type of
>>> set up as you but a different IP address....I use a Netgear Wireless
>>> Router.
>>> your IP 198.162.1.1
>>> mine 192.168.0.1
>>> any particular reason?? or just because different company??
>>> always willing to learn something
>>> peter
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>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uqhRe8NCFHA.268@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>> There is only one IP. I should have said that my wireless router is
>>>> connected to one of my computers by an ethernet cable. Of course
>>>> almost all routers are both wired/wireless. Mine has four ethernet out
>>>> and one in (from the cable modem). I have computers on both ethernet
>>>> and wireless connections.
>>>>
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>>>> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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>>>> "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
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>>>>> Colin
>>>>> quick question.......different IP for a wired router compared to a
>>>>> wireless??? I use a Netgear wireless and I can not remember what the
>>>>> wired IP was but I believe it was what you posted???Or is it just
>>>>> because different brand??
>>>>> peter
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uRJ4HrMCFHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Check your router's manual. Most use 198.162.1.1, which is what my
>>>>>> Linksys router uses. You put this in your browser's address bar
>>>>>> (where you normally see "http://......"). You should see the
>>>>>> router's main configuration screen in your browser and that's where
>>>>>> you edit settings, open and close ports, and so on.
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>>>>>> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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>>>>>> "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OeEfo3LCFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Give us the name and model of your router.
>>>>>>> my network IP is 192.168.0.0....with the routers IP being
>>>>>>> 192.168.0.1....comp #1 is 192.168.0.2 etc etc
>>>>>>> from this you should be able to figure out your routers IP
>>>>>>> peter
>>>>>>> "Yabbadoo" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:dygLd.1192$vC.113@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>>>>>>>> Peter and Colin - thanks for your continued and valued help and
>>>>>>>> advice. Still something I don't understand. - when you say type in
>>>>>>>> the ROUTER IP address, which one is that? I have the network card
>>>>>>>> (=LAN card?) MAC address, and the Network IP address, but no router
>>>>>>>> IP address, nor (as Colin pointed out) no way of getting it from pc
>>>>>>>> as it's an external device.. Is it one of these two, if not, how do
>>>>>>>> I get the router's IP address?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And, I guess I need to duplicate action on both pc and laptop?
>>>>>>>> Sincerely, Len (n.b. I've several different accesses to newsgroup
>>>>>>>> servers - just harmonised ID setting for all, hence now yabbadoo -
>>>>>>>> Yogi Bear throwback!)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:%23ygZiZxBFHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Like Colin said...both programs see the hardware and software ON
>>>>>>>>> your computer.
>>>>>>>>> Typically you would enter the routers setup page by opening IE and
>>>>>>>>> typing its IP address in the adress bar without the WWW.
>>>>>>>>> as an example for my router I type
http://192.168.0.1
>>>>>>>>> this brings up a username/password page where the most common
>>>>>>>>> default seems to be admin/password..........change it after you
>>>>>>>>> are inside
>>>>>>>>> this brings up a setup page and various tabbed pages for different
>>>>>>>>> set up options.
>>>>>>>>> Using the websites that I have suggested you should be able to
>>>>>>>>> follow along and adjust your settings to make the unit function
>>>>>>>>> with 2 computers.
>>>>>>>>> I dont know the make of your router but their websites usually
>>>>>>>>> have more info than their documentation.I am on my 2nd router the
>>>>>>>>> first was a wired Linksys and now I am using a wireless
>>>>>>>>> Netgear.Both came with good but not great documentation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh......and your not that old got me beat by 4yrs
>>>>>>>>> peter
>>>>>>>>> "Len Dolby" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:TP3Ld.114$Kk7.5@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>>>>>>> This sounds promising, but how/where to see (or change) change
>>>>>>>>>> this setting? The router is not listed in Device manager (it only
>>>>>>>>>> sees LAN card). Documentation for the router consistes of
>>>>>>>>>> pictorial and written text (about 100 words) instructions about
>>>>>>>>>> plugging in cables and power, nothing else..
>>>>>>>>>> Have tried both OE6 and Explorer internet settings - nothing, and
>>>>>>>>>> their Help files contain no entry under either Mac or Mac
>>>>>>>>>> address.
>>>>>>>>>> Tried EVEREST Home Edition (oft praised here as pc analysis
>>>>>>>>>> tool) - under Network, there 5 entries (IP/Subnet mask, Gateway,
>>>>>>>>>> DHCP, DNS and DNS) but no MAC (incidentally this tool only sees
>>>>>>>>>> my LAN card, not the router nor the cable modem).
>>>>>>>>>> FOUND SOMETHING! - Tried Belarc - under communications it gives
>>>>>>>>>> my Network card MAC address and Network IP address. OK, having
>>>>>>>>>> found data, is this what I need (and how to change it? NB same
>>>>>>>>>> limitation as Everest - sees the LAN card only, not cable modem
>>>>>>>>>> nor router.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do I do now, please?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for keeping in with this query - appreciated. Len
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:uv4vFujBFHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Your problem might be MAC addressing.Each Computer has a Machine
>>>>>>>>>>> Address which can be read by the Cable modem and your provider
>>>>>>>>>>> might only allow you to have one machine connected.This can be
>>>>>>>>>>> changed in the routers settings to clone the MAC address so that
>>>>>>>>>>> the same MAC is used for both computers.
>>>>>>>>>>> peter
>>>>>>>>>>> "Len Dolby" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:bPBKd.976$Qf6.442@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter, appreciate that you took the trouble to respond, but 25+
>>>>>>>>>>>> pages in on this link, with the info window getting smaller and
>>>>>>>>>>>> smaller and the adlinks multiplying like rats on heat (despite
>>>>>>>>>>>> pop-ups disabled) I gave up.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've already bought the kit. I need practical help, please,
>>>>>>>>>>>> with what I've got, not the electronic equivalent of a WalMart.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is an "idiot's guide", step by step, that's what I
>>>>>>>>>>>> need. I'm no idiot ( IQ actually >120, even though I'm 60+),
>>>>>>>>>>>> just an old fart seeking advice in an area where I have no
>>>>>>>>>>>> prior knowledge or expertise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks anyway, Len.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:unAH%23ZZBFHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> take a look at this web site which goes into detail on how to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> set this up.....maybe there is some setting that you missed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.homenethelp.com/connection-sharing.asp
>>>>>>>>>>>>> peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Len Dolby" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:IcyKd.440$oM1.259@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Per advice in previous post, I exchanged switch/router deemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be faulty, for new. Wired it up, fired it up - results
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly same as before, i.e. only ONE pc can be on-line, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if it wasn't the same one re-starting) need to switch off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cable modem power, then re-connect, to get to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been assured by both vendor and this ng that this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switch/router should give simultaneous and shared access to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the internet, and best acheived via a network..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I attempted to set up a limited network (to share just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet access, no files/printer) via the wizard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did this on both pc's, same network name (can't make a floppy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since 2nd pc is laptop without floppy drive) HOWEVER wizard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted both pc's on (which they were) and connected to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet (which they couldn't be - see above!!) however, both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were connected to the router/switch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Problems have now escalated. I get "Limited or no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connectivity" error, and attempting repair via the repair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen results in failure - only option is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnect/reconnect cable modem, reboot the pc. Even then I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get "detect proxy settings" which fails (I have no proxy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings!) and eventually regain connectivity via the "repair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ID" screen. This is farcical.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both PC's running XPHome, both connect via LAN cards, both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work fine on the modem as stand-alones - it's just connecting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via switch/router that causes problems. I do NOT require full
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network capability, just shared internet connection. Settings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are "automatic".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What am I doing wrong? HELP!!! I'm a total novice in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> networks, don't really understand IP masks, subnets and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such - have tried reading up, but it goes over my head. Most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> articles assume a pre-existing level of knowledge that I just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have. Please advise, in simple terms!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance, Len.
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