GeForce 7600GS 512MB vs. GeForce 6800GT 256MB (both AGP)

[Bin1000101]

Does anyone have any insight on these cards? Just bought a 7600GS 512 and I'm getting funky results!! (Might have wasted 150 bones!)

Thanx!

 

[mpjesse]

Unfortunately you did waste your money. In most cases the 6800GT is a better performer than the 7600GS. The only thing the 7600 GS has the 6800GT doesn't is PS3.0 capability.

Check the VGA charts.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=531&model2=545&chart=226

 

[sirheck]

hey mp are you talking sm3.0.

the 68gt has that.

but i agree the 68gt is better .
but if he was talking the 76gt then it would be different
as the 68gt and the 76gt are bout the same.

 

[mpjesse]

er... my bad.

he still wasted his money. lol.

 

[sirheck]

well the 76gs isnt all that bad. :lol:

for 150$ it is. 8O

 

[Bin1000101]

Thanx guys, I figured as much after running a few demo benchmarks, oh well I guess I'll put it in the workstation. LOL I guess I really need to take the plunge! PCI-e here I come!

Thanx again!

 

[cleeve]

Owch! A paid downgrade.

If you can, take that sucker back and trade it in for a 7600 GT.

That will at least give slightly better performance than the 6800 GT...

 

[rts_fan]

No, take it back for a X1950 Pro AGP

 

[cleeve]

If he wants to spend another $90, yeah... the X1950 PRO is the best AGP you can get.

Then again, going to a 7600 GT from a 6800 GT is still a waste of cash because they perform so closely.

 

[Bin1000101]

how about a 7800gs 256 gddr3? i'm not sure how an ati card will work with my nforce2 mobo. i checked the charts and there's only an entry for the 7800gs+ gsa 512 gddr3. i suppose i should just save my money and take the 64-bit/pci-e plunge!

 

[kaotao]

Don't worry about how an ATI card will work with your Nvidia mobo. It'll work just fine. You'll only run into problems trying to run crossfire (dual ATI GPUs) on an Nvidia mobo, and vice versa.

 

[cleeve]

7800 GS? Yuck. 7600 GT performance for $90 more...

If you want the best AGP, the X1950 PRO is the runaway winner. It'll work on your mobo, no problem.

 

[Anoobis]

What are these "funky results"?

 

[Bin1000101]

hehehe, i figured as much, the local compusa wants over 300 beans for the 7800gs. i think i'm gonna take the 7600gs back and stick with my 6800gt and save my money to buy a new system with pci-e. i've had this setup for 2 years and it's probably time to buy a new rig.

as far as the funky results, Anoobis, i ran the doom3 timedemo bench @ 1024x768, high-quality, no AA, default AF and lost about 10~15 fps with the 7600gs. then ran the performance test bench in FEAR @ 1024x768, max CPU, and everything but softshadows, AA and AF (set to 4x) enabled at max (no DX8 shaders and no pixle doubling), max shaders, everything under effects was set to max. 7600gs result= 25% below, 60% in between, 15% above. 6800gt result= 3% below, 67% in between, 30% above. obviously i was disappointed, i figured that a 7x00 series card would blow my 6800gt away! guess i figured wrong

what got me thinking about a new card was the room on the first level of FEAR when the moonlight was beaming in the windows (after the first or second auto-save) my fps dropped to 15. i suppose i shoud click the hardware auto-detect button and play it like that, but i love my eye-candy 8O

 

[Bin1000101]

now here's something interesting: with forceware driver v. 93.71 (coolbits activated) it shows the memory clocked @ 2GHz for the 6800gt. not even the ultra was clocked that high! anyone know of a progy that can test the actual memory frequency? i'll check the n-tune app and see what it says.

 

[sirheck]

8O what, if you already have a 68gt then its not really worth
upgrading to another videocard.

 

[Valtiel]

now here's something interesting: with forceware driver v. 93.71 (coolbits activated) it shows the memory clocked @ 2GHz for the 6800gt. not even the ultra was clocked that high! anyone know of a progy that can test the actual memory frequency? i'll check the n-tune app and see what it says.

Coolbits showing twice the memory speed (or 4 times effective) is normal but it confuses the hell out of me why.

 

[sirheck]

now here's something interesting: with forceware driver v. 93.71 (coolbits activated) it shows the memory clocked @ 2GHz for the 6800gt. not even the ultra was clocked that high! anyone know of a progy that can test the actual memory frequency? i'll check the n-tune app and see what it says.

mine says the same thing.

its 1ghz stock

 

[Bin1000101]

perhaps the "unified" driver has issues distiguishing between agp and pci-e? i didn't notice the discrepancy untill i made the decision to leave the 6800gt in the box (was double checking stuff). it doesn't seem to adversely affect the card, temps are normal. Don't have any explainations for the false report.... driver thinks it's a pci-e card?

I carefully went through the FEAR settings and found that the "volumetric light density" is what crippled my card. now i'm at max CPU (multiplayer physics i left at medium) and left the graphics @ 1024x768, no AA, no softshadows, AF 4x, no pixle doubling, no DX8 shaders and shaders @ max and the scene now runs around 40~50 FPS. 8) setting "density" between low and medium had no effect, i'll stay at medium!, long live the 6800gt! (i paid enough for it at release time, hehehe)


sirheck, you wouldn't upgrade to a 7x series agp card? i know they're hard to find, but......... your thoughts please

 

[sirheck]

if you already have a 68gt then going to a 76gt
wont get you much of an improvement.

both cards are pretty close performance wise.

the 76gt is better but not for the price. it is around 180$, i believe.

even if you had a pci-e it wouldnt be worth it.
the 76gt (pci-e) doesnt need an extra power connect
and is around 100 to 125$.

that is what makes the 76gt a better deal (in pci-e).
but its still the same story.

68gt and 76gt are real close in performance.

 

[Blacken]

Stick with the 6800GT. Even numbers are less evil than odd. :twisted:

 

[Bin1000101]

thanx again guys, when i go 64-bit, i'll probably go 8800 sli, but now that amd has embraced ati, i'm really not sure what to do; nvidia helped amd achive the performance crown, then they turned their backs? i don't get it now i'm at a crossroad, i've been amd/nvidia all the way since 1998, now with the aqusition of ati i don't know where to go. obviously the core2duo is the best choice, but now it looks like us graphics lovers are left in limbo. i've been a pc gamer since Atari 2600, C64, AppleII and 8086 and now i'm thinking about buying a console (i haven't bought a console since the SNES), though's please :?

 

[sirheck]

Atari 2600, C64,

those were the days :lol:

 

[Bin1000101]

and what grand days they were, any thoughts on the next hardware jump, sirheck? anyone else?

 

[cleeve]

but now it looks like us graphics lovers are left in limbo.

How exactly?
Both Ati and Nvidia are offering some pretty spectacular graphics hardware...