Zippy the computer hardware imbecile

There there Zippy, its not the size that matters, its the perkiness

Here's something else to cheer you up.

that was photoshopped

Hey zippy! That's not a bad mistake. Nice upgrade! I don`t even have that much ram in my main sys. Way to go.

There goes the neighbourhood.

HELP! Zippy, I'm in a parallel universe, blazing new trails of stupidity myself....

This requires some serious brainpower. Anyone have any spare cells today?



I have the same MoBo and the first thing you should know is that if it's telling you 667, it's actually only running at 533. It downclocks when you get to 4GB+. I can't remember where I read this -- maybe someone else can. In which case you can buy it cheaper than you think.

I assumed, in my case, that if the 800MHz RAM downclocked, things would be OK. And I figured I could even beat the system a tad -- go out and get the 800MHz HyperX and watch it go from CAS4 to CAS3 (if you have 2GB) and CAS 2 (if you have 4GB+).

But that's not the case. I've got two 800MHz CAS4 RAM sticks, and it doesn't like them, even though MemTest reports that it's running at the Kingston preset of 3-4-4-10. As soon as it begins to boot, I get the 0xc0000221 error.

If I put it alongside a 5-5-5-18 stick, it'll boot, and runs at 4-5-5-15.

But here's what's . I can't even get a good SPD Table reading on the HyperX when I put in alongside a stock stick.

I have tried every SPD Table utility under the sun, from Everest to CPU-Z to SPDTool -- the sole exception is Thaiphoon, which won't install at all under x64, even when enabling unsigned drivers -- and all of them give me no information. Effectively, the SPD info is "greyed out" in all of these utilities for both sticks. And, as some of you probably know, Everest and CPU-Z and so on are supposed to give you separate readings for each stick.

The only thing I can get is a reading from Everest for what the Northbridge timings are.

North Bridge: Intel Crestline-PM PM965 ]

North Bridge Properties:
North Bridge Intel Crestline-PM PM965
Intel Platform Santa Rosa
Supported FSB Speeds FSB533, FSB667, FSB800
Supported Memory Types DDR2-533 SDRAM, DDR2-667 SDRAM
Maximum Memory Amount 4 GB
Revision 0C
Package Type 1299 Pin FC-BGA
Process Technology 90 nm
Core Voltage 1.05 V
In-Order Queue Depth 12

Memory Controller:
Type Dual Channel (128-bit)
Active Mode Dual Channel (128-bit)

Memory Timings:
CAS Latency (CL) 4T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 5T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 5T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 15T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 43T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 3T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 5T
Four Activate Window Delay (tFAW) 17T
Write CAS Latency (tWCL) 3T
Refresh Period (tREF) 7.8 us


One line in here looks especially suspect:

Supported FSB Speeds FSB533, FSB667, FSB800
Supported Memory Types DDR2-533 SDRAM, DDR2-667 SDRAM

Note that it's saying "Supported Memory Types" is a separate consideration from "Supported FSB Speeds."

Anyone know the reason the SPD Table is inaccessible? Is it
1) The mixed RAM?
2) The fact that it's 800MHz RAM and the motherboard doesn't like it?
3) A limitation in the BIOS? (This is the ThinkPad T61p, latest BIOS.)

Thanks in advance.

No ... really ....

Dwellman, I'm not going to spoil your fun, but in light of your comment just above mine, seems like you do talk about hardware. Further, there's no distinction if you come at a thread by way of Google, where Zippy's headbanging seems to be the most compelling search result on this:
http://www.google.com/search?num=1 [...] 5+DDR2+800

No way to convince you, huh? You're saying it's too "on topic"?

BTW, trust me, you didn't read the thank you carefully enough in my first post.

Thank you, Vokofpolisiekar. I now see that within this den of iniquity, you are the rare denizen with any hono[u]r at all.

I take no offen[s/c]e, but rather take your word for it -- though you rabble do have a Zork-like zen of a sort.

With that in mind, I would like to be told in no uncertain terms where I can go stuff it so that I actually get a proper answer. Possible?

I imagine I'll be meeting your evil twin cousins somewhere else in the bowels of this forum -- but I won't be letting on that I've run into them before.

Fare thee well, Zippy! We village idiots know too well that our lot is a solitary one ....

Well, he seem hippy'ish. Speaks hippy'ish. But alas we only have one (thank Mugz) so we'll push him lower than the hippy moniker and just christen him knob.

Um, I was referring to aka.

Will never take the resident Chimp so low...

If you want to talk about bush's, then perhaps pop over here

Let's talk Bush

You call us cretins? You seem delusional at the least.

Yes. Twice.

*opens fire with a large-bore heavy machine gun*

Nah, I'm just killing time before passing out while looking after some house for someone.

This is going to be the status quo for the next while.

Oh. No worries then.

"Sorry, the answer is 'No'. X get's the square."

You must pick a new Square, sir.

I'll go with Whoopie for the win.......

I missed you too Turp!


*goes out and gets more pus filled tennis balls*

Update

After whitepaper research and as posted by Dwellman the PM965 chipset supports DDR2 533 and DDR2 667 memory. And supports processors with a FSB of 533MHz, 667MHz and 800MHz.
There is no capacity speed cap. Installed memory runs at SPD settings.
In other words 4GB of DDR2 667 will not be downgraded to DDR2 533 speed.
Yesterday I swapt out the Dell oem T7250 cpu with a retail boxed T7500 cpu. The larger cache on the T7500 cpu has increased performance a noticable amount.
Adding an extra 2GB of RAM, upgrading the cpu to a T7500 and using a 4MB SDHC flashmemory card for Windows Vista ReadyBoost has improved my Dell Inspiron 1420 into a respectable desktop replacement notebook pc.

Now I can access my Hooter jpg's at a blazing speed. Faster than a wingding can ejaculate.

I have an ISP that has a WWAN that is as fast as a bowel movement.

Which ever is slower. I expect Aubie style to have extarodinary hang time.