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More info?)
Jim,
It's not ideal, but it's ok. I would still be interested in trying to
get the TDK CDRW working if you come or anyone else has any ideas,
because otherwise, it's just being wasted.
Jim
Jim Byrd wrote:
> OK, Jim, as long as you can live with that, fine. YW, although I don't
> think I really did you much good.
>
> --
> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>
> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:42F99116.15DB569B@cox.net
> > Jim,
> >
> > I dug up an old 24x CDROM drive, and tried that in place of the CDRW,
> > and guess what? Yep, Windows sees both the DVD drive and the CDROM
> > drive.
> >
> > This is fine for me. I was mainly interested in having both a CD and
> > DVD drive on this machine. I just happened to try the CDRW first.
> >
> > Thanks for all of your patience and efforts. I still don't understand
> > why the CDRW was not being detected, because it did work when it was
> > in the machine by itself. It just didn't want to play nicely with
> > the DVD drive.
> >
> > In case you're wondering, the CDRW is a TDK 32/10/40...
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > ohaya wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> I just tried a clean boot, and the CDRW drive still doesn't show up
> >>
...
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> Jim Byrd wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well, quite a lot actually!
Try doing a "Clean Boot" and see
> >>> if they show up. From my Blog, Defending Your Machine, addy in
> >>> Signature below:
> >>>
> >>> #########IMPORTANT#########
> >>>
> >>> Show hidden files and run all of the following removal tools from
> >>> Safe mode or a "Clean Boot" when possible, logged on as an
> >>> Administrator. BEFORE running these tools, be sure to clear all
> >>> Temp files and your Temporary Internet Files (TIF)(including
> >>> offline content.) Reboot and test if the malware is fixed after
> >>> using each tool.
> >>>
> >>> HOW TO Enable Hidden Files
> >>>
>
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339
> >>>
> >>> Clean Boot - General Win2k/XP procedure, but see below for links
> >>> for other OS's (This for Win2k w/msconfig - you can obtain msconfig
> >>> for Win2k here:
> >>>
http://www.3feetunder.com/files/win2K_msconfig_setup.exe ):
> >>>
> >>> 1. StartRun enter msconfig.
> >>>
> >>> 2. On the General tab, click Selective Startup, and then clear the
> >>> 'Process System.ini File', 'Process Win.ini File', and 'Load
> >>> Startup Items' check boxes. Leave the 'boot.ini' boxes however they
> >>> are currently set.
> >>>
> >>> 3. In the Services tab, check the "Hide All Microsoft Services"
> >>> checkbox, and then click the "Disable All" button. If you use a
> >>> third party firewall then re-check (enable) it. For example, if you
> >>> use Zone Alarm, re-check the True Vector Internet Monitor service
> >>> (and you may also want to re-check (enable) the zlclient on the
> >>> Startup tab.) Equivalent services exist for other third party
> >>> firewalls. An alternative to this for XP users is to enable at this
> >>> time the XP native firewall (Internet Connection Firewall - ICF).
> >>> Be sure to turn it back off when you re-enable your non-MS services
> >>> and Startup tab programs and restore your normal msconfig
> >>> configuration after cleaning your machine.
> >>>
> >>> 4. Click OK and then reboot.
> >>>
> >>> For additional information about how to clean boot your operating
> >>> system, click the following article links to view the articles in
> >>> the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
> >>>
> >>> 310353 How to Perform a Clean Boot in Windows XP
> >>>
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
> >>> 281770 How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 2000
> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281770/EN-US/
> >>> 267288 How to Perform a Clean Boot in Windows Millennium Edition
> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/267288/EN-US/
> >>> 192926 How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192926/EN-US/
> >>> 243039 How to Perform a Clean Boot in Windows 95
> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/243039/EN-US/
> >>> #########IMPORTANT#########
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> >>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> >>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:42F980F8.7BAEA4CA@cox.net
> >>>> Jim,
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry. I forgot to mention that. I think that was the 1st thing I
> >>>> tried, which I was using a 40 wire cable. When I switched to the
> >>>> 80 wire cable (to try to get this working), I put both drives on
> >>>> cable select...
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW, I mentioned that both drives appear in Safemode. Is there a
> >>>> hint there? What's different when in Safemode?
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim Byrd wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jim, have you also tried it with the jumper settings on the
> >>>>> drives set to Master and/or Slave, as appropriate to their
> >>>>> position on the cable, rather than just Cable Select? Some
> >>>>> drives won't handle Cable Select correctly sometimes in my
> >>>>> experience.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> >>>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> >>>>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:42F977F1.9B076238@cox.net
> >>>>>> Jim,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I originally had:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> IDE0: Master: hard drive
> >>>>>> IDE1: Master: DVD (cable select)
> >>>>>> Slave: CDRW (cable select)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have 80-wire cables on both IDE0 and IDE1.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I just tried switching so that I had:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> IDE1: Master: CDRW (cable select)
> >>>>>> Slave: DVD (cable select)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But Windows can still only see the DVD drive. In other words, it
> >>>>>> doesn't matter whether the DVD is master or slave, Windows sees
> >>>>>> it, but will not see the CDRW drive.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If I connect only the CDRW on IDE1, Windows sees it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I haven't tried either the DVD or CDRW on IDE0 yet (the cable
> >>>>>> won't reach).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jim
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jim Byrd wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Jim - I think we need to step back a little here. IIUY
> >>>>>>> correctly, you currently have the DVD installed as master and
> >>>>>>> the RW as slave on the secondary IDE channel (when the RW's not
> >>>>>>> on your added IDE controller card). Is that correct?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If so, since it's the RW that won't enumerate, then I would
> >>>>>>> like to check the jumpering and the cabling. There are three
> >>>>>>> possible situations to which a drive can be set: Master,
> >>>>>>> Slave, or Cable Select. This is usually accomplished by either
> >>>>>>> microswitches or, more often, by setting a jumper on the drive.
> >>>>>>> Note that on normal IDE cabling, the Master device goes on the
> >>>>>>> first (middle of the cable) connector closest to the
> >>>>>>> motherboard, while the Slave goes on the end connector.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Please check that they are both cabled AND jumpered this way -
> >>>>>>> DVD on the Master connector, and RW on the Slave connector -
> >>>>>>> and that both devices are properly jumpered - DVD as Master and
> >>>>>>> RW as Slave or Cable Select. (Alternatively, you might want to
> >>>>>>> try reversing them and jumper the RW as the Master on the
> >>>>>>> Master connector and the DVD as the Slave on the end connector
> >>>>>>> unless your installation directions specify that the DVD has to
> >>>>>>> be a Master. Many motherboards will only boot from a CD if
> >>>>>>> it's the master device on the secondary channel, and it's often
> >>>>>>> useful to be able to boot from the same drive where you created
> >>>>>>> a CD for reasons I won't go into here.) In either case, let's
> >>>>>>> be sure that things are set up correctly physically and
> >>>>>>> eliminate that as a problem.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What devices do you currently have installed on the Primary IDE
> >>>>>>> channel, BTW? Two HD's?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> >>>>>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> >>>>>>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:42F96A32.1A4A6274@cox.net
> >>>>>>>> Jim,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Aargh! I ran FilterFixer, and restarted the system, but still
> >>>>>>>> can only see the DVD drive in Windows. The funny thing is
> >>>>>>>> that when I was testing, I booted into Safemode, and I could
> >>>>>>>> see both the DVD and CDRW then???
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jim
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ohaya wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jim,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ok, thanks. I'll try the FilterFixer once I get time to open
> >>>>>>>>> the machine again (I have a IDE PCI card in it right now).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jim
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jim Byrd wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Jim - Yes they are different - the CDGone download I gave,
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip, handles some
> >>>>>>>>>> additional things besides just deleting the Filter entries.
> >>>>>>>>>> I would suggest running both it and the FilterFixer package,
> >>>>>>>>>> link to directions here:
> >>>>>>>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27501-28000/sp27949.txt,
> >>>>>>>>>> direct download here:
> >>>>>>>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27501-28000/sp27949.exe,
> >>>>>>>>>> in order, maybe?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> >>>>>>>>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>> news:42F92748.286AEC2E@cox.net
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jim (Byrd),
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. As I mentioned in my post, I
> >>>>>>>>>>> already tried the "cdgone" registry thing, and that didn't
> >>>>>>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Are the other two suggestions any different from "cdgone"?
> >>>>>>>>>>> I noticed that the registry changes in cdgone did some
> >>>>>>>>>>> things with Upper and Lower Filter already?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jim
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jim Byrd wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jim - See here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
;270008]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];270008
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It may not sound like it applies but take the steps
> >>>>>>>>>>>> outlined there to delete the Upper and Lower Filters.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can also use this reg file to handle these deletes (it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> takes care of deleting some other things which can cause
> >>>>>>>>>>>> problems as well):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip This is pretty
> >>>>>>>>>>>> much the "standard" fix for this type of issue. Backup
> >>>>>>>>>>>> first so that you can recover if there are problems (there
> >>>>>>>>>>>> aren't usually, BTW).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's recommended by Compaq/HP that you run FilterFixer also
> >>>>>>>>>>>> when this occurs to recreate the correct entries, here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27501-28000/sp27949.exe
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Instructions here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27501-28000/sp27949.txt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> >>>>>>>>>>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>> news:42F83BE7.EC7BFFD6@cox.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Windows 2000 system with both a DVD drive and a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CDRW drive. The BIOS detects both drives (master and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> slave, respectively, on my 2nd IDE channel), but Windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2000 only detects the DVD drive, and can't see the CDRW
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> drive at all. Also the CDRW drive doesn't appear in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Manager.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For now, I've installed a SIIG IDE controller card just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> so I can use the CDRW, and that is working, so I'm sure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the CDRW drive is ok, but I was wondering if anyone might
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have an idea of how I might get both drives to work
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> without the extra controller card?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've tried deleting the DVD drive in Device Manager and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooting, but that didn't change anything. I've also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> tried adding the "cdgone" registry edits, but that didn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fix it either.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate any suggestions!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
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