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Thermaltake Big Water 745 or Gigabyte 3D Galaxy II ?

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January 10, 2007 4:07:14 AM

At around $160 I have these two in mind. I've read a little about both, but who has eyes and experience with any of these two?

There's a first time for everything I guess.
January 10, 2007 7:58:01 AM

Idk about the gigabyte, but from what ive heard, the Bigwater is a poor performer. It also leaves stickly gluey gump all over the components too from the mounting blocks.
January 10, 2007 8:28:20 AM

Hell, no I don't need that... so you've used Bigwater before? I've seen the 3D Galaxy in operation, must be honest, I think its ugly, but if it is better, I guess I dont have much of a choice. Dont wanna be setting this up while the cows come home...
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January 10, 2007 8:33:01 AM

No, i ahvent used the bigwater. I did read up quite a fair bit on it in reviews and forums before i purchased a new pc a few months back. TT's air coolers are alright, but the liquid cooling suxx
January 15, 2007 6:19:03 AM

At $150-$200, what WCS would you get? I really cannot afford to be spending any more than this, it was pretty spontaneous as it is.
January 15, 2007 6:23:05 AM

i personally hate water cooling

-high maintenance (ie draining loop every 6 months)
-wate rloops only last around 3 years
-higher failure rate with disatarous results
-expensive

i cant really recommedn any to you atm. Why do you need one though? Overclocking? The Bling Factor? Silent PC?
January 15, 2007 7:22:56 AM

I was hoping it would be more silent. I have lot of white noise resonating from many places, I even have a huge fishtank, looking for better sleep, yes.
January 15, 2007 7:28:48 AM

Sorry, but i can't help in your choice.

Thing you might wish to look out for-

-when reading reviews, check the dba (noise) level. some high performance waterloops are just as noisy as the standard hsink/fan combos
-look for 'silent' water loops, ie those dedicated fot home theatre pcs and the like, not gaming/overclocking ones. the perfomance kits tend to use high flow rate pumps and high airflow fan. they cool grate, but compromise on the noise.
-water cooling isn't always the quitest options. some highperformance air cooled heatsinks when set to "low' can still have very acceptable tmperature levels, yet still be quieter than the average video card or psu fan.
January 15, 2007 7:29:08 AM

sorry about the multpileposts

F***cking internet explorer screwed up

really shoudl set firefox as default
January 15, 2007 7:29:44 AM

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seeing as i quadruple posted accidently
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January 15, 2007 8:00:37 AM

Lmao. Nice easy way to get the post count up
January 15, 2007 10:06:26 AM

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Lmao. Nice easy way to get the post count up


hahahahah LMAO!!! no...

y would i need to get teh post count up for? i got above 100 a while back so theres no reason to ajck it up further

lol

was a genuine mistake tho. IE got stuck so i clicked refresh and it half froze and refreshed 5 times for me before i could ctrl-alt-del the process
January 15, 2007 6:04:37 PM

dude the swiftech ultra hands down!!..thats what iam getting...i was asking this question here a little while ago too!!

swiftech all the way
January 16, 2007 1:07:48 AM

Man I just took a peek at the swiftech ultra with all the bells. Its looks good, and complete, but $%mn complete price also.

Do you have working experience with one?
January 16, 2007 1:35:25 AM

sorry to be of topic but, i have to drain my loop every 6 months?!?! and change the tubes every 3 years!!...what did i get my self into...
January 16, 2007 1:52:27 AM

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sorry to be of topic but, i have to drain my loop every 6 months?!?! and change the tubes every 3 years!!...what did i get my self into...


I have a fishtank that I clean out completely every month, and empty the water out every week.

I'll just throw it in.
January 16, 2007 8:38:06 AM

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sorry to be of topic but, i have to drain my loop every 6 months?!?! and change the tubes every 3 years!!...what did i get my self into...


well your supposed to, to refersh the colling solution. even if youy do add antimould, you shoudl still drain every 6-8months. an amazing amount of crap can build up inside. maybe not with all loops, but a lot do gum up inside over time, even the expnsive ones. i dno abt swiftech tho.

you don't ahve to change the tubes every 3 years. kinda said that a bit weird. most cooling setups will last abt 3 years, before a part (any, wheather it be pump, fan etc) will fail and need replacement. as the saying goes, you get what you pay for. high ened loops probably won';t have this problem, but it is a good idera to check it periodically
January 16, 2007 1:02:37 PM

OK, thanks..now bacl to the topic, i think u shouls get the Gigabyte 3D Galaxy II because there is a fan ontop of the cpu block that will help keep the voltage things around the cpu cool durring overclocking. l8er :) 
January 18, 2007 4:37:27 AM

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OK, thanks..now bacl to the topic, i think u shouls get the Gigabyte 3D Galaxy II because there is a fan ontop of the cpu block that will help keep the voltage things around the cpu cool durring overclocking. l8er :) 


yeah, 3D galaxy it is then, with the mosfet cooling, I read that in the reviews.

I'm thinking, could I not get like a coolive chassis with any water cooling, and reverse the fan on the side panel to blow on the mosfet?
January 18, 2007 5:55:38 AM

i dunno what case this is, but in prolly 99% of cases, the side fans blow inwards onto the moboard
January 18, 2007 7:38:43 AM

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i dunno what case this is, but in prolly 99% of cases, the side fans blow inwards onto the moboard


yeah its got a 20cm fan on the side with slow rpm for extraction.
January 18, 2007 8:07:53 PM

umm, isn't the side fan on any case there for blowing air on the chipset? and any exhausts are at the back of the case? thats what I've just noticed an any case I've seen. l8er :) 
January 19, 2007 1:54:52 AM

yeh, noremally it is

hehe i gotta 25cm side fan blowing into chipset/mobo/soundcvard/graphics card too

mayeb they just installed the fan the wrong way round on kamikazes case. when i bought my one, the 25cm fan was orienteetd 90 degree left to the normal position and it had a tab that prevented the door from closing.

itd b understandable if the extracting side fan was over the pci-e 16x slots tho. it wud pump out the hot air from the gpu
January 19, 2007 6:21:25 PM

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At around $160 I have these two in mind. I've read a little about both, but who has eyes and experience with any of these two?

There's a first time for everything I guess.


thermaltake bigwater 754 is better much better than gigabyte.
if u wanna save some money and still get same performance than then get get coolermaster aquagate mini R-120, it beats the bigwater 745 and is still cheaper =D, u can pick one up from ebay for 50bux!!!!, or 60
January 19, 2007 6:23:26 PM

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Idk about the gigabyte, but from what ive heard, the Bigwater is a poor performer. It also leaves stickly gluey gump all over the components too from the mounting blocks.



lol dont go for what u hear, read the reviews. or maybe ask some 1 who uses the unit.
January 20, 2007 5:24:55 AM

same sh1t, different dog

lol

heard/read/review all the same to me. i use them interchangeably
January 20, 2007 6:43:23 AM

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same sh1t, different dog

lol

heard/read/review all the same to me. i use them interchangeably



lol, probably right
January 22, 2007 1:41:57 AM

Good heavens, you guys are right. That fan IS installed the wrong way around.

I've turned it around, and my temps have come right down. Mmh... I'm actually so excited, now I want to throttle the big fan up somehow. How would I do that, there is no rpm adjuster on the big fan, is there a rpm controller that I can buy seperately?

Hey man, thanks dudes, I would not have picked it up had we not jumped on to the subject.
January 22, 2007 2:29:47 AM

no probs man

btw

wadja mean throttle the fan up? pushing it past its rated rpm?

fan controlelrs can only throttle from its maximum speed downwards, no up past the maximum
January 23, 2007 2:59:42 AM

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no probs man

btw

wadja mean throttle the fan up? pushing it past its rated rpm?

fan controlelrs can only throttle from its maximum speed downwards, no up past the maximum


The big fan is a little slow, maybe by design, but if I could measure it, I would say it runs at just over 1000. I guess any louder, and it would sound like a chopper.
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