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Due to read problems with my CD drive, I've copied all the files from
my Win2K install disk to the hard disk of my laptop in the hope of
being able to install the OS directly from the hard drive.

When I boot off of a Win98 floppy disk and try to run the install, I'm
told that I can't run it under DOS even though it's actually Win98.

I've created a set of setup up disks but they ultimately want to get
the OS files from the CD as well. When I try to just exit from the
setup problem in the hope of being at a Win2K command prompt, it forces
a re-booting of the machine.

How can I run the Win2K install from my hard drive?

TIA,
David
 
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You can execute
winnt32.exe (32 bit)
or
winnt.exe (16 bit)
from the \i386 folder

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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<david@drschwartz.net> wrote:
| Due to read problems with my CD drive, I've copied all the files from
| my Win2K install disk to the hard disk of my laptop in the hope of
| being able to install the OS directly from the hard drive.
|
| When I boot off of a Win98 floppy disk and try to run the install, I'm
| told that I can't run it under DOS even though it's actually Win98.
|
| I've created a set of setup up disks but they ultimately want to get
| the OS files from the CD as well. When I try to just exit from the
| setup problem in the hope of being at a Win2K command prompt, it forces
| a re-booting of the machine.
|
| How can I run the Win2K install from my hard drive?
|
| TIA,
| David
|
 
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Well, I thought I had it nailed but apparently not. The problem with
using my install CD was that the file mshtml.dll could not be found on
the disk. This occured with two different install disks so it was
suggested to me that the problem was my CD drive and that I should
install from the hard drive.

Well, while running winnt.exe, things were looking great....copied all
the files, verified that I had the requisite Win98 disk, re-booted the
machine and all that. BUT, it is still unable to find that same file
(mshtml.dll). BTW, skipping this file just leads to many other files
not being found.

Any idea what's going on with these files or this process?

TIA,
David
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Dave Patrick wrote:
> You can execute
> winnt32.exe (32 bit)
> or
> winnt.exe (16 bit)
> from the \i386 folder
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> <david@drschwartz.net> wrote:
> | Due to read problems with my CD drive, I've copied all the files from
> | my Win2K install disk to the hard disk of my laptop in the hope of
> | being able to install the OS directly from the hard drive.
> |
> | When I boot off of a Win98 floppy disk and try to run the install, I'm
> | told that I can't run it under DOS even though it's actually Win98.
> |
> | I've created a set of setup up disks but they ultimately want to get
> | the OS files from the CD as well. When I try to just exit from the
> | setup problem in the hope of being at a Win2K command prompt, it forces
> | a re-booting of the machine.
> |
> | How can I run the Win2K install from my hard drive?
> |
> | TIA,
> | David
> |
 
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Once the W2k CD is on the hard drive, you have 2 ways to install W2k:
- From a running 32-bit system command prompt,
navigate to and run: \i386\winnt32.exe
- From a running 16-bit system command prompt,
navigate to and run: \i386\winnt.exe

These 2 executables are functionally identical.

david@drschwartz.net wrote:
> Due to read problems with my CD drive, I've copied all the files from
> my Win2K install disk to the hard disk of my laptop in the hope of
> being able to install the OS directly from the hard drive.
>
> When I boot off of a Win98 floppy disk and try to run the install, I'm
> told that I can't run it under DOS even though it's actually Win98.
>
> I've created a set of setup up disks but they ultimately want to get
> the OS files from the CD as well. When I try to just exit from the
> setup problem in the hope of being at a Win2K command prompt, it forces
> a re-booting of the machine.
>
> How can I run the Win2K install from my hard drive?
>
> TIA,
> David
>
 
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How were you trying? Sounds like you're upgrading. Upgrades from win9x
almost always fail for any number of reasons. To do a clean install, either
boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup disks. The set of four install
disks can be created from your Windows 2000 CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk
directory on the CD-Rom and execute makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe
(from 32 bit) and follow the prompts.

When you get to the point, delete the existing NTFS and or other partitions
found. After you delete the partition(s) abort the install, then again
restart the pc booting the CD-Rom or setup disks to avoid unexpected drive
letter assignments with your new install.

Be sure to apply these to your new install before connecting to any network.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

<david@drschwartz.net> wrote:
| Well, I thought I had it nailed but apparently not. The problem with
| using my install CD was that the file mshtml.dll could not be found on
| the disk. This occured with two different install disks so it was
| suggested to me that the problem was my CD drive and that I should
| install from the hard drive.
|
| Well, while running winnt.exe, things were looking great....copied all
| the files, verified that I had the requisite Win98 disk, re-booted the
| machine and all that. BUT, it is still unable to find that same file
| (mshtml.dll). BTW, skipping this file just leads to many other files
| not being found.
|
| Any idea what's going on with these files or this process?
|
| TIA,
| David
 
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Can I reasonably expect to have the process not fail to find those same
files from the CD if I do this? I don't see how this addresses my
problem.

David
===========================================================
Dave Patrick wrote:
> How were you trying? Sounds like you're upgrading. Upgrades from win9x
> almost always fail for any number of reasons. To do a clean install, either
> boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup disks. The set of four install
> disks can be created from your Windows 2000 CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk
> directory on the CD-Rom and execute makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe
> (from 32 bit) and follow the prompts.
>
> When you get to the point, delete the existing NTFS and or other partitions
> found. After you delete the partition(s) abort the install, then again
> restart the pc booting the CD-Rom or setup disks to avoid unexpected drive
> letter assignments with your new install.
>
> Be sure to apply these to your new install before connecting to any network.
>
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> <david@drschwartz.net> wrote:
> | Well, I thought I had it nailed but apparently not. The problem with
> | using my install CD was that the file mshtml.dll could not be found on
> | the disk. This occured with two different install disks so it was
> | suggested to me that the problem was my CD drive and that I should
> | install from the hard drive.
> |
> | Well, while running winnt.exe, things were looking great....copied all
> | the files, verified that I had the requisite Win98 disk, re-booted the
> | machine and all that. BUT, it is still unable to find that same file
> | (mshtml.dll). BTW, skipping this file just leads to many other files
> | not being found.
> |
> | Any idea what's going on with these files or this process?
> |
> | TIA,
> | David
 
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Assuming the hardware is compatible with Windows 2000 then yes. This method
gives you the best chance of a clean and stable installation of Windows
2000.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

<david@drschwartz.net> wrote:
| Can I reasonably expect to have the process not fail to find those same
| files from the CD if I do this? I don't see how this addresses my
| problem.
|
| David
 
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FYI, I've had Win2K working on this machine before.

So, I followed these instructions and after formating the partition
(after re-starting the setup app, as instructed), I got an error re the
program's inability to find the file kernel32.dll. At that point, I
inserted my other Win2K install disk and received the same error.

Any idea what's going on? This is weird.

Thanks,
David
===========================================================
Dave Patrick wrote:
> Assuming the hardware is compatible with Windows 2000 then yes. This method
> gives you the best chance of a clean and stable installation of Windows
> 2000.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> <david@drschwartz.net> wrote:
> | Can I reasonably expect to have the process not fail to find those same
> | files from the CD if I do this? I don't see how this addresses my
> | problem.
> |
> | David
 
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Is this during text mode phase of setup? I'm guessing you have some bad RAM

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

<david@drschwartz.net> wrote:
| FYI, I've had Win2K working on this machine before.
|
| So, I followed these instructions and after formating the partition
| (after re-starting the setup app, as instructed), I got an error re the
| program's inability to find the file kernel32.dll. At that point, I
| inserted my other Win2K install disk and received the same error.
|
| Any idea what's going on? This is weird.
|
| Thanks,
| David
| ===========================================================
 
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hi, d...@drschwartz.net

talk about missing files during install, (i wonder how you copy the
i386 files) into local disk? coz i guess, you might have an uncomplete
i386 files. (coz u mentioned about CD drive read problem)

maybe it might be usefull if you could provide the total files in your
i386 folder.

if it is slipstreamed pack, please provide the SP number as well.
 
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Is there a RAM test I can run in DOS mode? Not sure why RAM would have
this effect, but I'm willing to try anything at this point.

David
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Dave Patrick wrote:
> Is this during text mode phase of setup? I'm guessing you have some bad RAM
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> <david@drschwartz.net> wrote:
> | FYI, I've had Win2K working on this machine before.
> |
> | So, I followed these instructions and after formating the partition
> | (after re-starting the setup app, as instructed), I got an error re the
> | program's inability to find the file kernel32.dll. At that point, I
> | inserted my other Win2K install disk and received the same error.
> |
> | Any idea what's going on? This is weird.
> |
> | Thanks,
> | David
> | ===========================================================
 
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Well, unless I'm missing something, that requires a Windows GUI which I
don't have at this point. I did run the Gold Memory PC RAM test which
is a DOS program and found 600,000+ errors so I guess that's my
problem.

I assume I'm dead without getting new RAM. Please correct me if I'm
wrong. In any case, thanks so much for your help!!

David
 
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How many sticks? Might be you can remove some to troubleshoot further. Yes,
you'll need to get past the bad RAM issue to proceed.

FYI;
To run Windows Memory Diagnostic, you must reboot your computer with the
disk or CD-ROM on which you installed Windows Memory Diagnostic in the
drive. After the reboot, Windows Memory Diagnostic will load and its
interface will appear. After loading, the first test pass will begin, using
the default standard test suite, and continue until complete, unless Windows
Memory Diagnostic is either paused or exited. Once the first test pass is
complete, Windows Memory Diagnostic will begin a second test pass using the
same settings as before. Windows Memory Diagnostic will continue to run test
passes until you exit.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

<david@drschwartz.net> wrote:
| Well, unless I'm missing something, that requires a Windows GUI which I
| don't have at this point. I did run the Gold Memory PC RAM test which
| is a DOS program and found 600,000+ errors so I guess that's my
| problem.
|
| I assume I'm dead without getting new RAM. Please correct me if I'm
| wrong. In any case, thanks so much for your help!!
|
| David
|
 
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