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January 12, 2007 7:29:05 AM

I'm planning to get rid or sell my old Intel 3.2E w/Abit IC7 board for E4300 CPU. I'm cheap this time around and plan to get the best price vs. performance ratio.

So far I'm able to obtain the following:
$43.00 Ultra case w/ $40.00 rebate (have not receive the rebate cash yet)
$43.00 Ultra Power Supply w/$40.00 rebate (again still waiting for the rebate)
$110.00 ASUS P5N32-SLI SE (refurb, but comes with everying except the backing plate)
$8.00 include 1 120MM and 2 80mm case fans
$136.00 Nvidia 7900GT but w/CA tax and S/H it really cost $164.00

Total 368.00 (Could have bought Xbox 360 with that cash)

Total 368.00 - 80.00 rebate = 288.00

Still waiting on CPU and Memory

Est CPU cost
$133.00 E4300

Est DDR2-800 (hopefully memory becomes cheaper when I buy)
$120.00 Corsair XMS 512MB x 2

$541-560.00 Est total w/rebate

$350-400.00 Est sale from my current PC consist of Aspire full case (the alien case) with the following inside:
Intel 3.2E
Abit IC 7 board
Antec 400 power supply
1 Gig of Kingston DDR PC 3200 512MB x 2
ATI 9800 PRO
2 x 200Gig Maxtor

$141.00-210.00 total cost after rebate & selling current PC

This is my plan and how much it will cost to finish the project. I wonder if other has the same idea.

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January 12, 2007 8:12:09 AM

The E4300 is $163 (more like $190 atm I think...) not $133. ;) 
January 12, 2007 8:36:59 AM

Q2, will see a price drop on E4300. So street price could be 133.00

Here is the cheapest I found for Core 2 duo so far if you like OEM.
$169.00
Intel E6300
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz 2M Dual Core 1066MHz Socket LGA 775 - OEM + FREE HEATSINK/FAN-! + 90 DAY WARRANTY CPU
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January 12, 2007 8:46:43 AM

Q2 price will be even cheaper, $113. $133 is for the E4400. Anandtech made a an error in their article.
January 12, 2007 8:49:00 AM

I intend on using the E4300 for a media center based PC - at that price and performance, it's hard to ignore.
January 12, 2007 8:58:12 AM

I'll be going C2D at the end of February, price-drop or not.

It'll be a free upgrade since I'm selling my old rig WITH speakers (The speaker cost will offset the motherboard/ram/CPU upgrade cost)

I'm moving for school and since it's an apartment, having a 520 watt peak 5.1 speaker system isn't really justified. XD

Plus I plan on going with a home theater system for watching movies. I hardly ever use 5.1 for gaming, it's a total waste.
January 12, 2007 9:13:16 AM

Planning on getting a E4300 to play with. If $133 when they are released then will get one then if not then will wait till Q2, no hurry for me since I have more then enough as far as cpu goes, now my video card that's another story.
January 12, 2007 9:32:06 AM

Quote:
I'm planning to get rid or sell my old Intel 3.2E w/Abit IC7 board for E4300 CPU. I'm cheap this time around and plan to get the best price vs. performance ratio.

So far I'm able to obtain the following:
$43.00 Ultra case w/ $40.00 rebate (have not receive the rebate cash yet)
$43.00 Ultra Power Supply w/$40.00 rebate (again still waiting for the rebate)
$110.00 ASUS P5N32-SLI SE (refurb, but comes with everying except the backing plate)
$8.00 include 1 120MM and 2 80mm case fans
$136.00 Nvidia 7900GT but w/CA tax and S/H it really cost $164.00

Total 368.00 (Could have bought Xbox 360 with that cash)

Total 368.00 - 80.00 rebate = 288.00

Still waiting on CPU and Memory

Est CPU cost
$133.00 E4300

Est DDR2-800 (hopefully memory becomes cheaper when I buy)
$120.00 Corsair XMS 512MB x 2

$541-560.00 Est total w/rebate

$350-400.00 Est sale from my current PC consist of Aspire full case (the alien case) with the following inside:
Intel 3.2E
Abit IC 7 board
Antec 400 power supply
1 Gig of Kingston DDR PC 3200 512MB x 2
ATI 9800 PRO
2 x 200Gig Maxtor

$141.00-210.00 total cost after rebate & selling current PC

This is my plan and how much it will cost to finish the project. I wonder if other has the same idea.
I'm with you. I might(if it's worth it) sell my current system.

P4C800E-Deluxe
P4 3.0C or P4 2.4A (i switch between them, as the 2.4A is an overclocking beast, but i like HT also). :wink:
I'm gonna be greedy and keep my OCZ PC3200 Platinum Rev2 :lol:  , and sell it with my OCZ PC3700 EB Platinum.
I'll keep my current GS6800, and ditch my R9600XT(hopefully a gamer won't be interested) with it. :lol: 
I'll just throw in an 80GB WD 8MB.

Won't get much for the system, but i want to keep my best parts for the new build.
I'll likely go with an ASRock 775Dual-VSTA... so i can upgrade slowly. I think the E4300 will match up quite nicely with that board..for a cheap, yet decently powered system. Also, with the 9x multi, the ASRock's 300FSB limit would still allow up to 2.7GHz(and maybe a volt-mod will increase that). :?
January 14, 2007 2:14:55 AM

Quote:
I'm planning to get rid or sell my old Intel 3.2E w/Abit IC7 board for E4300 CPU. I'm cheap this time around and plan to get the best price vs. performance ratio.

So far I'm able to obtain the following:
$43.00 Ultra case w/ $40.00 rebate (have not receive the rebate cash yet)
$43.00 Ultra Power Supply w/$40.00 rebate (again still waiting for the rebate)
$110.00 ASUS P5N32-SLI SE (refurb, but comes with everying except the backing plate)
$8.00 include 1 120MM and 2 80mm case fans
$136.00 Nvidia 7900GT but w/CA tax and S/H it really cost $164.00

Total 368.00 (Could have bought Xbox 360 with that cash)

Total 368.00 - 80.00 rebate = 288.00

Still waiting on CPU and Memory

Est CPU cost
$133.00 E4300

Est DDR2-800 (hopefully memory becomes cheaper when I buy)
$120.00 Corsair XMS 512MB x 2

$541-560.00 Est total w/rebate

$350-400.00 Est sale from my current PC consist of Aspire full case (the alien case) with the following inside:
Intel 3.2E
Abit IC 7 board
Antec 400 power supply
1 Gig of Kingston DDR PC 3200 512MB x 2
ATI 9800 PRO
2 x 200Gig Maxtor

$141.00-210.00 total cost after rebate & selling current PC

This is my plan and how much it will cost to finish the project. I wonder if other has the same idea.
I'm with you. I might(if it's worth it) sell my current system.

P4C800E-Deluxe
P4 3.0C or P4 2.4A (i switch between them, as the 2.4A is an overclocking beast, but i like HT also). :wink:
I'm gonna be greedy and keep my OCZ PC3200 Platinum Rev2 :lol:  , and sell it with my OCZ PC3700 EB Platinum.
I'll keep my current GS6800, and ditch my R9600XT(hopefully a gamer won't be interested) with it. :lol: 
I'll just throw in an 80GB WD 8MB.

Won't get much for the system, but i want to keep my best parts for the new build.
I'll likely go with an ASRock 775Dual-VSTA... so i can upgrade slowly. I think the E4300 will match up quite nicely with that board..for a cheap, yet decently powered system. Also, with the 9x multi, the ASRock's 300FSB limit would still allow up to 2.7GHz(and maybe a volt-mod will increase that). :?

Better sale that system as soon as possible because the longer you wait the longer your PC value goes down. I just received two respond for my sale of Intel 3.2Ghz PC. 400.00 dollars hopefully down my pocket by tomorrow. With that money I could afford quality DDR-2 800 ram and good Conroe CPU.
January 14, 2007 3:51:49 AM

January 14, 2007 4:45:39 AM

Im going to buy an E4300 once the Q2 price drop is in effect just to see how it oc's, with any luck it will completly replace my E6300.
January 14, 2007 4:50:10 AM

Definitely for me the next buy will be a E4300 or E4400 with a 965P-S3. I think I should be able to get up around 2.8 GHz out of the CPU without pushing too hard. Imagine the difference between that and what I currently run: a PD820 OC at 3.4 GHz!
January 14, 2007 4:59:53 AM

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Definitely for me the next buy will be a E4300 or E4400 with a 965P-S3. I think I should be able to get up around 2.8 GHz out of the CPU without pushing too hard. Imagine the difference between that and what I currently run: a PD820 OC at 3.4 GHz!
The more i think about it, the more i think the E4400 would be a waste. Almost nobody (X6800/E6700 owners) uses the 10x multi. The only hope, is that the E4400 "might" be a little better Si, and therefore reach a tad higher frequency, but at the cost of FSB. :wink:
January 14, 2007 5:37:59 AM

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Definitely for me the next buy will be a E4300 or E4400 with a 965P-S3. I think I should be able to get up around 2.8 GHz out of the CPU without pushing too hard. Imagine the difference between that and what I currently run: a PD820 OC at 3.4 GHz!
The more i think about it, the more i think the E4400 would be a waste. Almost nobody (X6800/E6700 owners) uses the 10x multi. The only hope, is that the E4400 "might" be a little better Si, and therefore reach a tad higher frequency, but at the cost of FSB. :wink:

Actually, the E4400 would be the perfect chip for Asrock 775 DualVSTA users or anyone who has a mobo that won't do much over 300MHz FSB.

10 x 300 = 3000MHz, which would be about the sweet spot for a C2D on these boards since they don't have Vcore adjustment. The E4300 at 2.7GHz is not too far behind but would still have a bit of untapped headroom.

You also have to realise that all C2Ds have multis downward unlocked due to some BIOS trickery that takes advantage of the fact Speedstep needs downward unlocked multis to work. 8)

So the E4400 will have a multi range from 10x - 6x available, making it the most flexible C2D chip (besides the X6800/QX6700 of course). The E4300 with 9x - 6x should be enough for most people though, but if you have a poor overclocking mobo or REALLY crappy DDR2 RAM then the E4400 will be a godsend. :wink:
January 14, 2007 5:45:01 AM

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I intend on using the E4300 for a media center based PC - at that price and performance, it's hard to ignore.


Amen to that.
January 14, 2007 6:00:34 AM

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Definitely for me the next buy will be a E4300 or E4400 with a 965P-S3. I think I should be able to get up around 2.8 GHz out of the CPU without pushing too hard. Imagine the difference between that and what I currently run: a PD820 OC at 3.4 GHz!
The more i think about it, the more i think the E4400 would be a waste. Almost nobody (X6800/E6700 owners) uses the 10x multi. The only hope, is that the E4400 "might" be a little better Si, and therefore reach a tad higher frequency, but at the cost of FSB. :wink:

Actually, the E4400 would be the perfect chip for Asrock 775 DualVSTA users or anyone who has a mobo that won't do much over 300MHz FSB.

10 x 300 = 3000MHz, which would be about the sweet spot for a C2D on these boards since they don't have Vcore adjustment. The E4300 at 2.7GHz is not too far behind but would still have a bit of untapped headroom.

You also have to realise that all C2Ds have multis downward unlocked due to some BIOS trickery that takes advantage of the fact Speedstep needs downward unlocked multis to work. 8)

So the E4400 will have a multi range from 10x - 6x available, making it the most flexible C2D chip (besides the X6800/QX6700 of course). The E4300 with 9x - 6x should be enough for most people though, but if you have a poor overclocking mobo or REALLY crappy DDR2 RAM then the E4400 will be a godsend. :wink:Quite true. :) 
January 14, 2007 12:56:31 PM

I think I'm favoring a 8x multiplier on a 400MHz FSB for a final clock speed of 3.2GHz. That's about where E4300 maxs out on air cooling. Plus, DDR800 will run within spec's at tight timings. Intel was going to release a E4200 with a 8x multi but it was cancelled I hear. If the price fell below E4300 @ $113 in Q2 (~$85-90)... 8)
January 14, 2007 2:02:53 PM

I'm building with the E4300, it's gonna be my first build . Hope all goes well...pray for me :p .
January 14, 2007 2:19:04 PM

I was one of the first on this forum to post about putting together an E4300 system. :) 

Quote:
Here's my planned setup.

E4300 C2D
ASUS P5L-MX Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945G Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) DDR2 667
Western Digital Caviar SE 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive


My E4300 build post
January 14, 2007 6:17:02 PM

Quote:
I'm planning to get rid or sell my old Intel 3.2E w/Abit IC7 board for E4300 CPU. I'm cheap this time around and plan to get the best price vs. performance ratio.

So far I'm able to obtain the following:
$43.00 Ultra case w/ $40.00 rebate (have not receive the rebate cash yet)
$43.00 Ultra Power Supply w/$40.00 rebate (again still waiting for the rebate)
$110.00 ASUS P5N32-SLI SE (refurb, but comes with everying except the backing plate)
$8.00 include 1 120MM and 2 80mm case fans
$136.00 Nvidia 7900GT but w/CA tax and S/H it really cost $164.00

Total 368.00 (Could have bought Xbox 360 with that cash)

Total 368.00 - 80.00 rebate = 288.00

Still waiting on CPU and Memory

Est CPU cost
$133.00 E4300

Est DDR2-800 (hopefully memory becomes cheaper when I buy)
$120.00 Corsair XMS 512MB x 2

$541-560.00 Est total w/rebate

$350-400.00 Est sale from my current PC consist of Aspire full case (the alien case) with the following inside:
Intel 3.2E
Abit IC 7 board
Antec 400 power supply
1 Gig of Kingston DDR PC 3200 512MB x 2
ATI 9800 PRO
2 x 200Gig Maxtor

$141.00-210.00 total cost after rebate & selling current PC

This is my plan and how much it will cost to finish the project. I wonder if other has the same idea.

I'll have to pass because Intel should have a Q6400 around that time for around $400. Intel has a quad Xeon X3210 @ 2.13GHz which by Q2 07 has a nice price of $425.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5595
January 14, 2007 6:43:41 PM

Quote:
I was one of the first on this forum to post about putting together an E4300 system. :) 

Here's my planned setup.

E4300 C2D
ASUS P5L-MX Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945G Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) DDR2 667
Western Digital Caviar SE 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive


My E4300 build postYou want a hero biscuit, or something?
January 14, 2007 6:46:01 PM

Just sold my computer and $400.00 is in my pocket today. Dual Core here I come. Intel please release the E4300 in the U.S. because I have the money now, but not the CPU.

Dual should be enough for most people because Quad Core is waste of price vs. performance. Quad will be more expensive, maybe more than the listed price because they will be limited. Quad will be intended for extreme gaming (not sure how much Frame rate you get from it, but won't be too much) and server.
January 14, 2007 7:32:16 PM

Intels ahead of its time , games are not taking full advantage of the quad yet till maybe late 2007...it's a powerful processor no doubt...but no one's really ready for the QX series and it would probably be a waste to buy it now, well except for the Video/3D programs which takes advantage of all 4 Quads. Still really expensive though. Oops went off topic
January 14, 2007 9:14:07 PM

I am all ready to upgrade my computer. Currently I have an AMD XP 2400+ (yea it's been awhile since I upgraded). Here is what is sitting in my study in boxes waiting for the CPU to come out:

Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3
Kingston HyperX 1GB (2 x 512MB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) CAS 4
Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
Tuniq Tower 120 Cooler
EVGA 9700GS Video Card

Just waiting for the CPU to come out... :p 
January 15, 2007 6:03:10 AM

Since everybody is hyped on th E4300, what is an excellent heatsink for the E4300. If everybody plan to O/C or at least to a 2.8 would the retail heatsink be enough or a better after maket heatsink is prefer. I know it is Winter in the USA right now, but during the summer will the retail heatsink stand up to the after market. I'm leaning on getting the aftermarket brand, but do not know which model. I do know thermalright and Zalman are the top brand. Can anybody make suggest on which heatsink work well with this CPU. Also, I would love to see someone post their O/C status once their system is up and running.
January 15, 2007 6:12:49 AM

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I am all ready to upgrade my computer. Currently I have an AMD XP 2400+ (yea it's been awhile since I upgraded). Here is what is sitting in my study in boxes waiting for the CPU to come out:

Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3
Kingston HyperX 1GB (2 x 512MB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) CAS 4
Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
Tuniq Tower 120 Cooler
EVGA 9700GS Video Card

Just waiting for the CPU to come out... :p 
OMG!.....Where did you get that puppy??? :wink: Me thinks you reversed your numbers....7900GS. :D  Looks like it will be a nice setup, once you get the CPU. It must be killing you, having almost everything just sitting there. :x
January 15, 2007 6:49:18 AM

Quote:
Since everybody is hyped on th E4300, what is an excellent heatsink for the E4300. If everybody plan to O/C or at least to a 2.8 would the retail heatsink be enough or a better after maket heatsink is prefer. I know it is Winter in the USA right now, but during the summer will the retail heatsink stand up to the after market. I'm leaning on getting the aftermarket brand, but do not know which model. I do know thermalright and Zalman are the top brand. Can anybody make suggest on which heatsink work well with this CPU. Also, I would love to see someone post their O/C status once their system is up and running.


The retail heatsink is more than sufficient if you only overclock on stock voltages, or even some mild overvolting. Most E4300s can reach ~3GHz at stock volts, so if you happy with that then the stock HSF will be sufficient. Even a mild ~0.1V overvolt should be OK with the stock HSF, which should be enough to yield stable operation in the 3.2 - 3.3GHz range.

Once you start upping the volts past 1.5V though you will find the stock HSF will struggle, especially if your room has a high ambient temperature to begin with. In a worst case scenario, the CPU will throttle due to overheating.

TBH, even a high end aftermarket HSF will only get you an extra 200MHz or so over the stock HSF, I'm not sure if it's really worth shelling out $50 for a high end HSF for such a low end CPU (you're looking at the HSF taking up 1/3 of the total CPU cost!).

The only reason I'll opt for an aftermarket cooler is for the low noise (though I don't think the Intel HSF is that loud either, just not 'near silent').

Currently the Tuniq Tower is the best HSF, followed closely by the Scythe Infinity. Both can take large 120mm fans, which move a lot of air at a relatively low RPM (and hence noise). The Thermaltake Big Typhoon is also pretty good, if you want something slighty cheaper.
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January 15, 2007 2:05:54 PM

Not me. I don't intend to upgrade my machine for a few more years. I only built it about a year ago and it still performs very well, in fact, the X2 4200+ outperforms the C2D E4300.. It seems that 4 years or so is about the lifespan that I get out of my machines.

My next machine will likely be a dual-socket workstation as that's much more how I use my desktop and I should be able to buy it then too :D 
January 15, 2007 2:38:54 PM

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You want a hero biscuit, or something?


heh, nah, I wasn't really meaning to boast about it or anything...I have just found it interesting as I have been watching the forums for the past couple weeks. Everybody is slowly jumping on the 4300 bandwagon. It's interesting seeing all the posts about "why 4300 over 6300?" and how I went through that same process a couple weeks ago, when there was hardly any posts about the 4300.

Back in november I began planning to build a new computer (replacing my Dual 400MHz Celeron that just isn't cutting it anymore :) ...) and after doing some reading, I realized the terrific value I could get by overclocking the lowest C2D. At that time all I knew about was the 6300. I knew the holidays were just around the corner so I decided to wait until after the holidays to buy any parts (wanted to see if anyone might decide a part to my computer would be a good Christmas gift :)  ). And lo and behold, I received a 6300 as a generous gift at the end of december.

Now, I am on a tight budget and had my new system all planned out to keep the cost as low as possible. As such I wanted to go with the stock HSF since I wasn't planning on doing any extreme overclocking, and I had read that the 6300 can OC pretty well with stock HSF.

It turns out that the E6300 I received was open box and didn't have the heatsink and fan. :(  So I was now torn between buying the HSF my self and talking to the gifter to see if they would be willing to spring for the extra $3 to get a new boxed version (or maybe I could pay the difference). So, while trying to decide I started looking up info here, and happened to run into a post about the E4300 series. At that time there was only a post or 2 about the 4300 and I hadn't heard of it before so I looked into it. It was hard to find info about it at that time, but after some searching I realized that here was the chip I had been looking for all along! With my planned setup I knew that the bottleneck would be my motherboard, which wouldn't get much higher than FSB 320, and I was willing to settle for that with the E6300. But now I realized that the 4300 would massively outpace the 6300 at the same FSB speed! And all for $20 less even!! All I had to do was wait a month. That decided it, I talked to the person who got me the 6300 and told them that I had a mutually beneficial proposition: Save them some money, and I get the chip i was really looking for. :) 

At this point I was happy that my E6300 didn't come with the HSF because I probably wouldn't have learned about the 4300 in time for a refund had I not been trying to figure out what to do. I would have been kicking myself right about now when I found out about the E4300.

Anyway, thats how I came to realize the power of the E4300. And it has been interesting watching others come to the same realization.
January 15, 2007 3:01:19 PM

I am seeing a lot of this going on for those that bought a new computer in 05. I am going to be purchasing a new mainboard, processor and memory in november. Hopefully I will be able to get $150 for these components. With the Core2 being released in July 06, Win Vista in Jan w/dx10 and Quad core cpu's all with in about a 6 month period I have been made a little dizzy. I do hope they don't sprout a dramatacially new processor 6 months after I buy in november. Having that happen twice in a row would suck.
January 16, 2007 4:06:08 AM

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I talked to the person who got me the 6300 and told them that I had a mutually beneficial proposition: Save them some money, and I get the chip i was really looking for. :) 
Cool. :wink:
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