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8800 GTXs "wasted" on 19" LCDs??

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January 12, 2007 2:10:25 PM

I can see why that would be true of today's games, 8800's being overkill @1280 res. But I'm going to upgrade ~March to get a Vista system ready for the 'best' Crysis experience. I guess my question is, would you all be factoring in upgrading from a 19" lcd monitor too? Would you agree if I didn't I'd be 'wasting' my 8800?


(A follow up... I've got a Samsung 970P, what monitor would you all go for if you had say ~£500 to spend to make Crysis look great? Seems to me that 'gaming' monitors are fast but generally not great with colour, which would seem a real shame with such a good looking game as Crysis!)


Thanks, appreciate your advice!!

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January 12, 2007 2:45:31 PM

No, I think getting a 8800gtx will not be overkill. For the reason that games will always be evolving and it may not be long until that power is fully needed for your 19" resolutions.
January 12, 2007 2:59:25 PM

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No, I think getting a 8800gtx will not be overkill. For the reason that games will always be evolving and it may not be long until that power is fully needed for your 19" resolutions.


But what about now, and even for Crysis? Will someone on a 19" displaying 1440 X 900 or 1280 X 1024 notice any difference between a GTX or a GTS?

I thought the real performance of a GTX was at the very highest resolutions, and the GTS at very high resolutions. I wonder if a GTS is overkill for a 19". (Besides the benefit that is is DX10, though that is no benefit now).
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January 12, 2007 3:01:26 PM

The 8800GTX is definitely overkill for 1280 x 1024.

The upside is that the GPU should last you until DX11 cards hits the market in a few years from now if you limit yourself to 1280 x 1024 resolution. But that depends on what you consider acceptable performance two or three years from now.
January 12, 2007 3:11:08 PM

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The 8800GTX is definitely overkill for 1280 x 1024.

The upside is that the GPU should last you until DX11 cards hits the market in a few years from now if you limit yourself to 1280 x 1024 resolution.


? Why would it be overkill if you added all the AA and AF filtering and dynamic lighting and shadows to the mix? Id rather game at 1280x1024 with candy on then 1600x1200 or higher with no graphics goods turned up?

By the way. Good thread to the op
January 12, 2007 3:25:37 PM

Bruce, how does you machine run? must be sweet FPS!
Anyway, i think the 8800GTX is no over kill for these day. Oblivian and Crysis seems like the really going to stretch the cards legs! Im planning on getting one, just going to wait for the R600( it seems like its going to be heavy on the power though!) and c how it stands against the no1 gpu.....! For the screen, it does make a huge dif! Getting a 19" is simply a over kill at 1280x1024.... a good 17" will save you a few $ or you could spend it on a high quality 17" too! Anyway, Sounds like you going to have lots of fun with that GTX.....
January 12, 2007 3:28:23 PM

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The 8800GTX is definitely overkill for 1280 x 1024.

The upside is that the GPU should last you until DX11 cards hits the market in a few years from now if you limit yourself to 1280 x 1024 resolution.


? Why would it be overkill if you added all the AA and AF filtering and dynamic lighting and shadows to the mix? Id rather game at 1280x1024 with candy on then 1600x1200 or higher with no graphics goods turned up?

By the way. Good thread to the op

yes, i totally agree.

i wouldn't say its overkill. i'd say you're moreso future-proofing yourself since as the more graphics intense dx10 games come out, it'll be harder for the 8800 to provide all the eye candy at higher resolutions. 1280x1024 seems to be the sweet spot where you can expect most of your eye candy, even several months down the road while at 1600x1200 you might compromise eye candy for resolution
January 12, 2007 3:31:22 PM

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Bruce, how does you machine run? must be sweet FPS!
Anyway, i think the 8800GTX is no over kill for these day. Oblivian and Crysis seems like the really going to stretch the cards legs! Im planning on getting one, just going to wait for the R600( it seems like its going to be heavy on the power though!) and c how it stands against the no1 gpu.....! For the screen, it does make a huge dif! Getting a 19" is simply a over kill at 1280x1024.... a good 17" will save you a few $ or you could spend it on a high quality 17" too! Anyway, Sounds like you going to have lots of fun with that GTX.....


No way, Leroy. Try using a 30 inch Apple Cinema display and see if you want to go back.

BIGGER SCREEN = MORE IMAGE = MORE INFORMATION = BETTER GAME

Seriously.
-cm
January 12, 2007 3:44:27 PM

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BIGGER SCREEN = MORE IMAGE = MORE INFORMATION = BETTER GAME

Seriously.
-cm


Right, but not everyone here can plunk down $1500+ for a display like that... the question was regarding a 19". If you have a 30" anything, then of course the GTX will be strutting it's stuff and be well worth it's high price tag.
January 12, 2007 3:47:11 PM

Oh, don't get me wrong, I do NOT have a Cinema display. I have a mere Acer 1440x900 display.

My point was that the larger the screen the more information is displayed. Unless you have a miserable computer, get the largest screen you can afford.
-cm
a c 358 U Graphics card
January 12, 2007 3:50:06 PM

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? Why would it be overkill if you added all the AA and AF filtering and dynamic lighting and shadows to the mix? Id rather game at 1280x1024 with candy on then 1600x1200 or higher with no graphics goods turned up?



It would still be an overkill (for most games) because there should still be plenty of raw power left at 1280 x 1024 resolution. At that resolution this GPU should last a few years since newer games will always push the graphics envelop. But that also depends on the acceptable minimum level of eye candy. I'm sure in 4 years or so the 8800GTX will be considered an entry level GPU performance wise.
January 12, 2007 4:00:00 PM

I also agree, I dont think its overkill as I game on my system in the sig with a 19" when everyone told me I shouldnt. Now that games like Rainbow Six Vegas are out and other demanding games my lower res is helping me out alot and a year ago when I bought this card it destroyed everything I was playing.

great gaming LCD = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Best,

3Ball
January 12, 2007 4:30:01 PM

The cards do shine at higher resolutions, and with ALL the eye candy enabled.

If you stay 19", the gts will do fine, if you move to Dells new 22", or another to the 24", you are into GTX territory.
January 12, 2007 4:33:45 PM

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The 8800GTX is definitely overkill for 1280 x 1024.


I dunno- FSX can still smoke my 8800GTS when I crank-up everything. I am using an E6300 OCd to 3.15GHz; 2GBs Corsair CM2X1024-8500C5 at 4-4-3-9-2T-500MHz; 8800GTS; eVGA 680i; 3x WD2500YS RAID 5; X-Fi Platinum, 19" Gateway VX900 CRT (Yup that's right! Probably made in the late 90s!).

Word.
January 12, 2007 4:41:56 PM

When I bought my evga 8800gtx I also upgraded my monitor.


SCEPTRE X20WG-Naga Black 20.1" 5ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 Built in Speakers http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

eVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Before my upgrade:

My old monitor was terrible. The BenQ isnt bright and the color is off alot.
BenQ FP731 17'' LCD Monitor http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid...

GIGABYTE GV-NX76T256D-RH GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Silent Pipe II, Lead Free Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
January 12, 2007 6:17:05 PM

Nice machine.

Word.
-cm
January 12, 2007 8:40:12 PM

Grazie. It got over 40K on 3d Mark 2001SE...for what it's worth. But everytime I OC the GPU it reverts back to its original settings at reboot! :( 

Oh, and the machine this one replaced only got like in the 300s!
January 12, 2007 9:04:22 PM

It just seems to me that running a 27 or 30 inch badass Dell lcd will cripple the 8800gtx with aa on af on.. Isnt the resoltion like 2700 x something like that? You have to sli 2 8800 gtx's to run a game badass on screens like that right?
January 12, 2007 9:26:13 PM

2560x1600
I believe you need dual 8800 GTX's to get "good" performance in Oblivion at that resolution, but we won't really know until we see DX10 performance on the 8800 GTX. It might actually get more frame rates and look better in DX10 than in DX9 - only a few weeks will tell.
January 12, 2007 9:39:42 PM

Yup, from what I understand, SLI is really meant to push very high FPS on those massive displays some people have (oh, how I hate them! :p ).

I think we've all seen where SLI isn't the "be all, end all", for performance. And Quad SLI is routinely spanked because of all of the technical issues and software porting that is required. Sorta like QuadCPUs.

Still, nothing wrong with getting an 8800GTX to power a single monitor. After all, if it doesn't have to sweat on lighting-up a billion pixels on a 30" display, it can spend more attention to giving you a helluva visual experience.

I got the GTS because (a) I was near my self-imposed budget, (b) if I got the GTX, I wanted the water-cooled version (and then, see (a)), and (c) newer and better cards will be coming out soon anyhow, so go with the lower-priced model.
January 13, 2007 12:40:38 AM

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I can see why that would be true of today's games, 8800's being overkill @1280 res. But I'm going to upgrade ~March to get a Vista system ready for the 'best' Crysis experience. I guess my question is, would you all be factoring in upgrading from a 19" lcd monitor too? Would you agree if I didn't I'd be 'wasting' my 8800?


(A follow up... I've got a Samsung 970P, what monitor would you all go for if you had say ~£500 to spend to make Crysis look great? Seems to me that 'gaming' monitors are fast but generally not great with colour, which would seem a real shame with such a good looking game as Crysis!)


Thanks, appreciate your advice!!


NOT an overkill if you like eye candy.

Here are a few reasons:

-oblivion
-rainbow six vegas
-Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter
-splinter cell
-call of duty 2
-8XAA
-16XAF
-Gamma Correction AntiAliasing
-Transparency AntiAliasing:Supersampling
January 13, 2007 12:46:33 AM

Thank you PMR!

Best,

3Ball
January 13, 2007 10:56:59 AM

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8800 GTXs "wasted" on 19" LCDs??

I damn well hope not cause I will be using my 8800GTX (coming very soon) on a 19'' 1280x1024...
January 15, 2007 5:43:06 AM

What`s the standard resolution? 1024*768?
January 15, 2007 6:24:36 AM

With 1280x1024 rez and Crysis, the 8800GTX or GTS would be perfect for it. I'd say get the GTS for more value and besides I don't know if there's a game right now that fully supports and use the GTS in DX10. I would upgrade only for Crysis, but that's not going to come till this fall. Till then there should be more DX10 models from Nvidia and ATI for better selection and maybe price as well. But if you need one now then the GTS would be a good choice, but if you have big mulla then go for the GTX, that way you can play games at 1280 with highest quality settings and have silky smooth gaming performance.
January 16, 2007 6:44:45 AM

You took the words out of my mouth!
January 16, 2007 7:25:56 AM

I went widescreen.....

I have a 19" 1440x900 resolution and I'm planning on upgrading to a GTS soon (unless better cards come out by the time I have £££)

Was this a bad choice....will I have worse performance due to the 16.10 aspect ratio?
January 16, 2007 11:04:44 AM

what do you mean by performance?

Theoretically your resolution is lower than 1280x1024, so about gfx performance it will be superior ( but negligible ). I just don´t know why they don´t make 19" screens with higher resolutions than 1280x1024
January 17, 2007 1:42:58 AM

I agree with some of what's being said here. You can get a good 19" LCD screen with 5ms response and HDCP for what, under $200 now? Combined with an 8800GTS you should have good frame rates and high res for some time to come without worry that you wasted your money. Let's not forget it's also DX10 compatible. You buy the GTS and the 19" screen and you're good for 2 years. Let's not forget that the MIDRANGED cards have yet to be released.
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