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January 13, 2007 9:07:41 AM

What do you think?

Antec P180B = $129.99

SAMSUNG 18X DVD Burner = $31.99

Tuniq Tower CPU Cooler = $54.99

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound = $5.99

Crucial Ballistix 2 x 1GB PC2 6400 4-4-4-12, 2.2V = $289.99

ASUS P5B Deluxe = $179.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB = $94.99

Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard = $64.99

NEC 20WMGX2-BK 20.1" 6ms Widescreen LCD = $602.99

Logitech G5 USB Wired Laser Mouse = $45.99

Microsoft Windows XP Home SP2b = $89.99

SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT 650W = $159.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz = $317.00

CyberPower 895 3600 joules Surge Protector = $27.99

BFG Tech GeForce 8800GTX = $599.99

Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer = $89.99

Grand Total: $2,786.85

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January 13, 2007 9:41:55 AM

I think it's a fantastic setup :D 

Where/How did You check the compatibility of your main components, out of interest? :) 
January 13, 2007 9:46:32 AM

I have been researching for about 2 months.

I started by reading articles on tomshardware and anandtech and sharkyextreme and a few other sites. Also I spent quite a bit of time reading and posting on the forums.
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January 13, 2007 10:03:35 AM

awesome. pretty much the setup i'm looking for in 2 months time, got the same mobo and processor already. have fun
January 13, 2007 10:14:35 AM

Looks like your expensive 8800 gtx is 'all dressed up with no where to go...'.

I wonder, where did that 2700+ actually go? My back of the envelope calcs add up to quite a bit less. But then again I don't understand what a 'surge protector with 8 feets' is actually used for.
January 13, 2007 10:26:35 AM

yeah, seriously, give me 5 minutes on newegg and im sure i could build you the same system for about half that amount!
January 13, 2007 10:26:59 AM

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Looks like your expensive 8800 gtx is 'all dressed up with no where to go...'.


Don't quite understand...

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I wonder, where did that 2700+ actually go? My back of the envelope calcs add up to quite a bit less.


I ordered everything from newegg.com.


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But then again I don't understand what a 'surge protector with 8 feets' is actually used for.


It's 8 outlets. And the length is 10 feet.
January 13, 2007 10:29:32 AM

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yeah, seriously, give me 5 minutes on newegg and im sure i could build you the same system for about half that amount!


Go for it...because newegg is exactly where I got all my parts from :) 

One thing that might be throwing you off is that I'm literally ordering a complete brand new PC system--keyboard, mouse, dvd/cd drive, etc...everything. Not using any old parts at all.
January 13, 2007 10:38:07 AM

I see the problem, he spent $35 on a mousepad!
January 13, 2007 10:43:16 AM

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Looks like your expensive 8800 gtx is 'all dressed up with no where to go...'.


Don't quite understand...

At the default res for that LCD, the 8800 GTX is wasted. Fast, but no faster than a lot of lesser cards.


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I wonder, where did that 2700+ actually go? My back of the envelope calcs add up to quite a bit less.


I ordered everything from newegg.com.

So? Uninformed decisions do not necessarily make good sense.

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But then again I don't understand what a 'surge protector with 8 feets' is actually used for.


It's 8 outlets. And the length is 10 feet.

Maybe a link to this device might be in order... I am sure that an adequate APC or Tripp lite UPS might have been cheaper.

And the mousepad is just bragging rights. On most any surface, a g5 is quite capable. I use mine on a Formica-(tm)- like surface, and clean the surface, the base of the mouse and the LCD screen with the same 50% isopropyl mixture. (not the same cloth...)
January 13, 2007 10:50:21 AM

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At the default res for that LCD, the 8800 GTX is wasted. Fast, but no faster than a lot of lesser cards.


I'd like to understand what you are saying. The default resolution for this LCD is 1680 x 1050. Why is that a waste?

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So? Uninformed decisions do not necessarily make good sense.


What part is uninformed?

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Maybe a link to this device might be in order... I am sure that an adequate APC or Tripp lite UPS might have been cheaper.


CyberPower 895 You can't get a better APC or Tripp surge protector for $28...
January 13, 2007 10:51:53 AM

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I see the problem, he spent $35 on a mousepad!


Curious to know why that is a problem :?: Think I should nix the mousepad?

Are you a gamer may I ask? If so, what do you use for your mouse surface? Just curious...
January 13, 2007 11:07:01 AM

With these new details, I stand corrected. (I'd have still gone for the Dell 2407...)

The mousey pad, thoiugh, for this pointing device is a waste. Keep your surface clean, the bottom of the mouse clean, and enjoy the freedom.
January 13, 2007 11:13:10 AM

Ok well it just so happens that newegg dropped the surge protector and the mouse pad from my order because they "were not available". Talk about a coincidence! The exact 2 parts that were unnecessary are the ones that happened to be not available. New total $2668.87
January 13, 2007 11:19:06 AM

Methinks you'll be happy... (I'd still get the 2407...) :-)
January 13, 2007 12:22:50 PM

Really overpaying on that monitor. Otherwise looks good.
January 13, 2007 3:24:46 PM

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What do you think?

Antec P180B = $129.99

SAMSUNG 18X DVD Burner = $31.99

Tuniq Tower CPU Cooler = $54.99

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound = $5.99

Crucial Ballistix 2 x 1GB PC2 6400 4-4-4-12, 2.2V = $289.99

ASUS P5B Deluxe = $179.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB = $94.99

Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard = $64.99

NEC 20WMGX2-BK 20.1" 6ms Widescreen LCD = $602.99

Logitech G5 USB Wired Laser Mouse = $45.99

SteelPad 5L 20030 Mouse Pad = $34.99

Microsoft Windows XP Home SP2b = $89.99

SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT 650W = $159.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz = $317.00

CyberPower 895 3600 joules Surge Protector = $27.99

BFG Tech GeForce 8800GTX = $599.99

Grand Total: $2,731.85

I think that you got a bad deal on the lcd, check this one out
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...
Return your lcd for this one, and then get a quad core, and your future proofed forever (or until about three months :cry:  , but its always nice to try to beat technology's growth rate :wink: )
January 13, 2007 11:29:05 PM

I did a little research on the Sceptre 20WGX.

It's $240 because it's using a crappy TN panel, which means 6-bit color with dithering.
January 14, 2007 1:26:53 AM

But still, you can't beat the price, combine it with a nice graphics card and you won't really notice the difference. and also, you could get the 2407 for a simular price of the nec, and I think the dell is better considering the size difference, or atleast consider this model, I personally happen to like accer, but if you don't, that's your choice
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...
January 14, 2007 2:03:17 AM

bloodandsoil wrote:
What do you think?

Antec P180B = $129.99

SAMSUNG 18X DVD Burner = $31.99

Tuniq Tower CPU Cooler = $54.99

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound = $5.99

Crucial Ballistix 2 x 1GB PC2 6400 4-4-4-12, 2.2V = $289.99

ASUS P5B Deluxe = $179.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB = $94.99

Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard = $64.99

NEC 20WMGX2-BK 20.1" 6ms Widescreen LCD = $602.99

Logitech G5 USB Wired Laser Mouse = $45.99

SteelPad 5L 20030 Mouse Pad = $34.99

Microsoft Windows XP Home SP2b = $89.99

SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT 650W = $159.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz = $317.00

CyberPower 895 3600 joules Surge Protector = $27.99

BFG Tech GeForce 8800GTX = $599.99

Grand Total: $2,731.85

Very nice rig man but you payed over the odds and wasted a bit of cash on alot of components like the case,monitor,mouse mat,psu,cpu cooler etc

I would have went with the below system

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz = $317.00

ASUS P5B Deluxe = $179.99

Crucial Ballistix 2 x 1GB PC2 6400 4-4-4-12, 2.2V = $289.99

SAMSUNG 18X DVD Burner = $31.99

CyberPower 895 3600 joules Surge Protector = $27.99

Microsoft Windows XP Home SP2b = $89.99

Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard = $64.99

SCEPTRE X20WG-Naga Black 20.1" 5ms $239.99

COOLER MASTER CAVALIER 3 CAV-T03-UW $55.99

HIPER HPU-4B580-MS ATX12V v2.2 580W $89.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB = $94.99

eVGA GeForce 8800GTS 640MB $369.99 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate)

$1820
January 14, 2007 2:10:35 AM

yeah, I'd have to agree, for that kind of money, I would have built a quad core with the cheaper monitor I suggested and basic excessories with a few fast hdd's and 4 gig's of super fast ram with a nice water cooler, that would have been nice, but its all how people spend their money, so I won't flame on the op
January 14, 2007 2:34:17 AM

Well I figure I'll be keeping this monitor for several years. And $600 doesn't really seem expensive to me considering that my last monitor was a Sony GDM-F400 that I bought for $1999 in the year 1996. It's lasted me 10 years....It was an EXCELLENT monitor. Beyond comparison.

Also, I plan on upgrading to quad-core later on. If my mobo is compatible (Asus P5B Deluxe) I might even upgrade beyond quad-core.

Also, I can upgrade to 4GB memory later on. Don't really think I have a need for beyond 2GB at the moment....

And also, I personally don't care for water-cooling. I don't think I would do water cooling no matter my budget...
January 14, 2007 2:58:32 AM

$35 for a mouse pad?!

Why no 680i?
January 14, 2007 3:02:34 AM

All I'm saying is that its all what your going after, though its easier to make a performance pc and then upgrade all the niceties later
January 14, 2007 3:03:55 AM

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Well I figure I'll be keeping this monitor for several years. And $600 doesn't really seem expensive to me considering that my last monitor was a Sony GDM-F400 that I bought for $1999 in the year 1996. It's lasted me 10 years....It was an EXCELLENT monitor. Beyond comparison.

Also, I plan on upgrading to quad-core later on. If my mobo is compatible (Asus P5B Deluxe) I might even upgrade beyond quad-core.

Also, I can upgrade to 4GB memory later on. Don't really think I have a need for beyond 2GB at the moment....

And also, I personally don't care for water-cooling. I don't think I would do water cooling no matter my budget...



I personaly think spending over 1 grand on a PC is rediculous. Getting the latest parts is fun and all but 2.7k isnt money to throw around. After all a $1k would last you just as well. This is a piece of equipment your talking about which is not worth the money :) . Spend that half on something more important.
January 14, 2007 3:04:52 AM

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$35 for a mouse pad?!

Why no 680i?


Well actually newegg dropped the mouse pad because they said it was not currently available.

I really really considered the 680i but I couldn't find enough reviews or feedback on the Asus Striker. Plus, many other manufacturers have yet to come out with 680i motherboards. It just seemed there isn't enough info available for me to feel comfortable going with an 680i. Plus, I heard (not sure about this though) that SLI works with a P965 with some driver....not quite clear on that though.
January 14, 2007 3:15:08 AM

Spend less on the monitor and more on the mobo, EVGA 680i IMO. Newegg has lots of nice 22' LCDs with 5-8ms response for less than 500. Drop that garbage mousepad too. Spend the extra $ on the G7. Get a Thermaltake 750 or 850 PSU and then when the 8800 GTX drops in price and has a viable aftermarket air cooler get a second one for your 48 PCIe lane mobo (680i).
January 14, 2007 10:34:54 AM

Have you REALLY already bought this system? :?

It seems to have brought out a lot of criticism, coupled with better ideas, from Forum Members. Why didn't you list it in the proposed build section first?

Then you would have gotten all this valuable advice before you spent all that money 8O
January 14, 2007 11:30:37 AM

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Well I figure I'll be keeping this monitor for several years. And $600 doesn't really seem expensive to me considering that my last monitor was a Sony GDM-F400 that I bought for $1999 in the year 1996. It's lasted me 10 years....It was an EXCELLENT monitor. Beyond comparison.

Also, I plan on upgrading to quad-core later on. If my mobo is compatible (Asus P5B Deluxe) I might even upgrade beyond quad-core.

Also, I can upgrade to 4GB memory later on. Don't really think I have a need for beyond 2GB at the moment....

And also, I personally don't care for water-cooling. I don't think I would do water cooling no matter my budget...

No your mobo is not compatible for quad cores, you need the newer 680i boards for that, or this board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
The very famous rd600 that just came out a few days ago (onto newegg, has been launched a while ago). It doesn't support 1333 fsb like the striker, but has many capabilites the striker doesn't have, proven to be a better ocer, and I can almost guarantee you there will be some bios mod to eventually make it support native quad core. But until then, it can at least support the qx6700, q6600, and q6400
January 14, 2007 12:44:23 PM

That must be a new revision, because just recently, only the 680i boards were quad core compatible, but also asus has proven to be just talk a lot
January 14, 2007 1:14:18 PM

try this:

Intel QX 6700 $995.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

EVGA 680i SLI (dont underestimate this board!) $249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

G-skill 2x1GB pc6400 $209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

EVGA 8800GTS 640mb with 96 unified shaders $399.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Acer 22 inch 5ms, wsxga $304.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Antec 900 case (ultimate airflow) $124.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Antec truepower trio 650w with three 12v rails $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Seagate barracuda 320GB 7200rpm, 16mb cache, 3G sata-II $94.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Samsung DVD Burner $31.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Zalman 9700 110mm CPU cooler.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...

Grand Total: $2472.91

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With the QX6700 Quad-core CPU, you can future proof your system for games that will support multithreading. ex. valve's new source engine coming out for HL2 episode 2. The 680i mobo has tons of features, supports SLI, 48 PCI-E piplines, and 1333fsb. The 8800GTS has more than enough power to run the 22 inch acer monitor and supports DX10.
The antec 650w powersupply can run 2 8800GTS in sli while running quad.
You could upgrade to another 8800GTS later.
January 14, 2007 1:33:45 PM

well he could wait for the price drop, but nobody accualy knows what the R600 can offer. id rather he get a 680i. its a very good board. Only time could tell what would be the better setup.
January 14, 2007 1:36:18 PM

Ack, now I'm debating with myself if I should call newegg and have them replace the Asus P5B Deluxe with an EVGA 680i or an Asus Striker... :? I think I want the option to SLI later on...
January 14, 2007 1:37:47 PM

well, people do know that it offers individual ram overclocking, and that it ocs higher than the striker in general, plus, its a lot cheaper than the striker
January 14, 2007 1:38:18 PM

evga, but get the rd600 instead if you can
January 14, 2007 1:46:07 PM

Never owned an ATI video card in my entire life :p  Call me stubborn I guess...

Do you think SLI will ever be officially supported on an Intel chipset like P965? Reason I ask is that apparently it's possible...some people on another forum report getting SLI to work on Intel chipset using some hacked-up drivers.
January 14, 2007 2:06:27 PM

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What do you think?

NEC 20WMGX2-BK 20.1" 6ms Widescreen LCD = $602.99


I think it's a great setup. Personally, I've never spent less than 2000$ on a computer, this last one being a 2500$ setup similar to yours (but with a 680i mobo, a Raptor HD, and X-Fi Platinum), and the one before it a 3100$ Alienware gaming laptop. You get what you pay for with the exception of Alienware. They used to be excellent, but now they're crap and I no longer recommend them.

I don't think you need a mousepad, I haven't used one since the rollerball days. If you've got money and you're not afraid to spend it, go for it. I also have a 20.1" LCD, but I paid 400$ for it 2 years ago. You can get a Dell 22" for 300$ these days, or a Dell 24" for 600$. The new Dell 24" have the latest A03 revision that addresses many issues like colour dithering. At the very least, I think you are making a mistake on the LCD monitor and I would highly recommend the eVGA 680i motherboard. It's worth every penny.

Are you an audiophile in the least? If so, I recommend going with a soundcard by Creative. You don't have to get the Platinum model by any means unless you think you'll use the front I/O hub. Personally, I dislike what I hear coming from built-in/on-board sound cards.

Do you have a backup hard disk? You might want to think about getting an extra Barracuda for important files, or getting something else as your main HD and using the Barracuda as the backup drive.

As I mentioned before, at the very least, have a look at the Dell LCDs (eBay is great) and the eVGA nForce 680i motherboard.
January 14, 2007 2:06:45 PM

No, I don't think intel wanted sli on it in the first place. And I haven't owned an ati card either, buts that's because they only gfx card I have is a 6600gt which killed the 9800pro in its time.

Also, the rd600 is a much better board in general that most of the 680i's out right now, and I wouldn't focus on sli anyway, because as far as we know, either the r600 will demolish the gtx, or will be demolished by the gtx, there's no other valid way it can happen, otherwise ati would have released benchmarks by now.
January 14, 2007 2:07:37 PM

Its very unlikely that nvidia would license SLI to intel scince they have their own chipset. The EVGA 680i board is accualy designed by nvidia. you should get the evga board over the stiker. (my opinion)
January 14, 2007 2:10:41 PM

How about this Samsung (one of the best) 22" for a great compromise. They also have anthing from 19" and up to 32". Only $320 to $400 delivered. Just google it. Walmart for "400 if in great hurry. Newegg free shipping at $370=/-
January 14, 2007 2:11:50 PM

bah, no way in hell I will recommend spending over 2.5k on a simple 6600 build, people are making quad core guild for less (basic one can be made around $2000 with a nice mobo and ram). Power comes first, accessories are added later
January 14, 2007 2:16:59 PM

I agree, the evga is worth it far over the striker because of the price deficite, but the rd600 still kilss the striker in every way and is only $20 more than the evga
January 14, 2007 2:26:09 PM

i never heard much about the rd600. what features and overclocking capability does the rd600 have over the 680i?
January 14, 2007 2:28:59 PM

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I don't think you need a mousepad, I haven't used one since the rollerball days.


Yea, the mousepad got dropped.

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You can get a Dell 22" for 300$ these days, or a Dell 24" for 600$. The new Dell 24" have the latest A03 revision that addresses many issues like colour dithering. At the very least, I think you are making a mistake on the LCD monitor and I would highly recommend the eVGA 680i motherboard.


The panels on the Dell 22" and above are nowhere near the quality of the AS-IPS panel that comes in the NEC 20WMGX2. In terms of input lag, response time, 6-bit versus 8-bit color, the trueness of the colors, etc...

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Are you an audiophile in the least? If so, I recommend going with a soundcard by Creative. You don't have to get the Platinum model by any means unless you think you'll use the front I/O hub. Personally, I dislike what I hear coming from built-in/on-board sound cards.


Yea I went ahead and ordered the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer.

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Do you have a backup hard disk? You might want to think about getting an extra Barracuda for important files, or getting something else as your main HD and using the Barracuda as the backup drive.


I was thinking of getting a second Barracuda 320GB and using it for linux dual boot and storage. But that can wait till later on.

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As I mentioned before, at the very least, have a look at the Dell LCDs (eBay is great) and the eVGA nForce 680i motherboard.


Gonna stick with my monitor choice. But I'm still wavering on the 680i...
January 14, 2007 2:30:36 PM

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bah, no way in hell I will recommend spending over 2.5k on a simple 6600 build, people are making quad core guild for less (basic one can be made around $2000 with a nice mobo and ram). Power comes first, accessories are added later


Yea but you have to realize my build includes Windows XP, keyboard, mouse, etc...

When most people post their builds they just include the very basics...that's why it appears to be less expensive.
January 14, 2007 2:30:38 PM

more ocability in general (10-20 fsb over the striker according to some tests, but many are fake though) Then the rd600 offers independent ram ocing if wanted, so instead of having to run 1:1 because your fsb is something like 300, and no other divider is worthwhile, you could simply run your ram at ddr1200 (if your ram could handle it) so you have great speed, and you don't have to worry about having an offset divider to slow down performance. Just google the rd600, or check DaBlog, rd600 information is everywhere, kinda surprising you didn't know about it
January 14, 2007 2:34:41 PM

what!!..no sound card?
January 14, 2007 2:42:09 PM

That's true, but I'd at least get xp pro x64 over regular xp, its far more stable and software is starting to become common for 64 bit. But see, what I'm saying is that you don't need all that stuff like the expensive mouse, the mouse pad, the expensive monitor. All that stuff will be meaningless if your rig sucks, not to say that a 6600 build is bad, but you could do far more with that money, and then get the accessories later, that's what I do, and trust me, you'd rather have a screaming pc that has a quad core now with a top of the line mobo and memory, rather than having to make another build later when quad cores become more common. The quad core is an exception to the rule of everything becoming out dated within a month or two because they are just being developed right now. You'll be much happier a year from now when you are making a simple purchase of $1000 for a better monitor and a better mouse etc and having a screaming build rather than having awesome accessories and then spending $2000 and up for a new build that requires stuff like ddr3 memory and new mobos (as you know intel is a pain in the a$$ when it comes to upgrading, since everything requires a new northbridge)
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