i got a 16inch viewable crt screen. i plan on buying a 8800gtx with my income check soon. the max resolution of my crt monitor is 1280 x 1024. it has a refresh rate of 85Hz i believe. I was wondering if anyone knows if that graphics card would basically "bottle neck" my monitor? I also would like to know if anyone knows if the evga 8800gtx is easily hooked up to a hdtv? would gaming be good on a 55inch hdtv? and finally would anyone be able to guess wut score i would get on 3dmark06 with the following rig i will have shortly::
8800gtx evga stock
Pentium d (805 @ 3.8-4.0 )
Evga 680i
800mhz gskull 1024mb
Segate 320gb 7200rpm sataII
I m guessing 8000 3dmark 06?? i could be way off..
thnx.
Since you didn't search and I am in a good mood, I did the job for you:
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/har [...] 40#1446540
no it wont bottle neck your monitor.
and yes it will work with hdtv and a 55 inch monitor.
I don't see 1280x1024 being as much of a waste as the 16 inch monitor.
Anti-alaising can help cure the 12x10 resolution.
here's a cheap monitor that will make getting the gtx worthwhile
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824112006
otherwise you'll need something like an hdcp supported monitor with a resolution of 1920*1200 to really call getting a gtx worth it for current use. Maybe when crysis comes out, then we might all need to lower the resolution down to 1280*1024, but until then, you never know, and you will need a pretty big monitor to call the gtx worthwhile
just a quick question off-topic here. you guys with widescreen monitors, when gaming at 1280 x 1024, do you set your monitor to remain at a fixed aspect ratio or do you let it stretch to fit your screen? my native reso. is 16:10 (1440 x 900) and 1280 x 1024 will need to be stretched to maximise all screen space. most games i play support my reso, and most that don't support it look ok when stretched at 1280 x 1024. just wondering what you guys do.
can't help you here, I have a 19" full screen I bought off a garage sale for less than $5 that I am completely content with
It's perfect for it? Smooth gaming at highest quality.
Yeah, but is it really worth it for the 2 billion fps that you can't use
Whether it's worth it or not is up to you but I personally would not. The cpu and 1 gb of ram will bottleneck your system anyway so whether your monitor is the issue is moot.
well, I don't think the cpu should be that much of a bottleneck
| Quote : just a quick question off-topic here. you guys with widescreen monitors, when gaming at 1280 x 1024, do you set your monitor to remain at a fixed aspect ratio or do you let it stretch to fit your screen? my native reso. is 16:10 (1440 x 900) and 1280 x 1024 will need to be stretched to maximise all screen space. most games i play support my reso, and most that don't support it look ok when stretched at 1280 x 1024. just wondering what you guys do. |
Try 1280 x 960.
That resolution looks really good on my Sceptre 22 inch widescreen 16:10. Let us know if it worked.
| Quote : I don't see 1280x1024 being as much of a waste as the 16 inch monitor.
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hm can you explain yourself furthur?? i have a 17inch monitor (16inch screen) that is 12 x 10. Is 1280x1024 a waste on 16inch screen? what are you trying to say?
| Quote : i got a 16inch viewable crt screen. i plan on buying a 8800gtx with my income check soon. the max resolution of my crt monitor is 1280 x 1024. it has a refresh rate of 85Hz i believe. I was wondering if anyone knows if that graphics card would basically "bottle neck" my monitor? I also would like to know if anyone knows if the evga 8800gtx is easily hooked up to a hdtv? would gaming be good on a 55inch hdtv?
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ok, the GTX may be a little bottlenecked by the processor, depending on the game, but I wouldnt worry about it. The monitor is fine for the GTX, it may be overkill in frames per second terms at the moment, but as you start seeing Crysis/Alan Wake etc you will be glad of the extra power.
Oh and in regards to the HDTV, it will look ok depending on your distance away and what games your playing. Try it and see!
| Quote : just a quick question off-topic here. you guys with widescreen monitors, when gaming at 1280 x 1024, do you set your monitor to remain at a fixed aspect ratio or do you let it stretch to fit your screen? my native reso. is 16:10 (1440 x 900) and 1280 x 1024 will need to be stretched to maximise all screen space. most games i play support my reso, and most that don't support it look ok when stretched at 1280 x 1024. just wondering what you guys do. |
If the game doesn´t support 16:10 I'll use always some kind of patch or edit the .ini file
I found a way to change the reso. in F.E.A.R. and it was simple and works. I just hope it is that easy for other games that don't support WS. Thanks for the suggestion. BTW to the guy further above, I didn't see a 1280 by 960 res but thanks anyways.
You can change the resolution in most games, its just that very few support strange kinda custom resolutions like 1440*900 that some lcd's have. To change it in most games, its just under the video settings, or display quality, the resolution goes up as the display quality raises for games that don't have direct control
| Quote : I found a way to change the reso. in F.E.A.R. and it was simple and works. I just hope it is that easy for other games that don't support WS. Thanks for the suggestion. BTW to the guy further above, I didn't see a 1280 by 960 res but thanks anyways. |
And for further questions I advise you to go here:
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/
They have all the answers
| Quote : I don't see 1280x1024 being as much of a waste as the 16 inch monitor.
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hm can you explain yourself furthur?? i have a 17inch monitor (16inch screen) that is 12 x 10. Is 1280x1024 a waste on 16inch screen? what are you trying to say?
Well, 17 inch monitor - 16 inch viewable as you said. Regardless, it's not huge. The bigger the viewable, the better at at higher (more dense) resolutions.
Anti-alaising is a process done by your computer to smoothen out edges as lower resolutions produce "zags". This is why (imo) having a 12x10 max resolution is not waste - the 8800 can clean the picture up. Though having a bigger resolution will not make games any smaller as it does to windows (smaller bars, icons, ect.), your 16 inches of viawable is - as you won't see the full effect. It's like having HDTV on a 10inch screen. Know what I mean?
Basicaly man, if you have to compress your nose against the screen to see something, you need a bigger monitor
ah ha.. great information on this thread. thanks alot everyone. I have another question. the tv i want to hook my pc up to is a 1080i 55 inch with the game run smoothley on such a tv? what resolution is hdtv considered?
| Quote : ok, the GTX may be a little bottlenecked by the processor, depending on the game, but I wouldnt worry about it |
yah i agree the pentium d 805 @ 3.8-4.0 probally is a bottleneck. But i plan to upgrade to a quad 6600 when price drops this summer i hope/heard.
why would anyone want to buy 8800GTX for low res other than 24" LCD or 30" LCD. Is beyond me.
Totally not worth it.
you can get 7950GT for 200 and volt mod it to 7800 GTX performance level.
Which was GOD only a year ago and cost 550 if you can find it at all.
550 a year ago to 200 now. more than 50 percent drop in a year.
If your car or house drop 50 percent a year, you will commit sucide with katana.
those people who paying two 8800 GTX , for SLI is totally ridiculous.
that 1100 dollars performance will worth less than a 200 dollars card in two years time.
Yes, i am going to get one 8800GTX for my 30 inch LCD, but that is because unplayable fps at 2560x1600, but even that i still thinking of waiting until march where price will drop new card coming out.
2 8800GTX is totally out of the question.
SAVE THE PLANET. Dun use too much power. Lower your green footprint.
Unless you are playing at 1900x1200+, a 8800gtx will be serious overkill for current games.
Pick yourself up a 1900gt.
I actually don't mind paying the extra money for top-of-the-line sli. I enjoy the ability to play games at max. Also, in terms of power usage, it's nice piece of mind that there'll be nothing left for the generations after me
I work hard and am American. I thus have the right to have 15 kids, drive a hummer, and keep at least one faucet in my house running at all times. No if I could just figure out where I put that bucket of chicken skins
Really though, for the time I get to use my PC for gaming, the power draw of sli is a drop in the bucket.
Ok....Its like this,
For a 8800GTX running low resolutions, it can and will do the job quite nicely. Since the card is not having to pump crazy resolutions its not going to have to work at its max capacity. Your processor will in fact not be feeding its insatiable appetite for data in order to process. So essentially your frame rates will depend on the speed at which your processor can supply it data. You will actually have the card waiting on data from the processor from time to time...Which necessarily isnt a bad thing. Just so long as you can get 60fps, then who cares about frame rates? Just play the game and enjoy knowing that when new and more complex games come out, you will definitely have the horsepower to render all the graphical goodness. Furthermore running your computer on a HDTV is doable..Just make sure you have the right connections and or dvi to hdmi converters. Mitsubishi micro displays have actual DVI inputs, while samsung displays have HDMI inputs on the rear connections panel. And before you ask, you will not lose any quality using a converter because its all a digital connection. You either have all of it or nothing at all. Hope this helps. With the tv though, you might have to tweak graphic driver settings to get the best picture on your TV. just mess with it and youll get it mate!
Cheers*
I dunno I use a 8800gtx on my projector set at 1280x720 and the nice thing im able to do is crank the aa up to 16 which really makes games like oblivion look great at the lower resolutions. And even my old x1900xt can't do oblivion with half the aa on its own
When using a 8800GTX on a 1280x1024 monitor, one would most probably need to enable verticle sync (prevents texture tearing etc)..
When this feature is enabled, the gfx card will "sync" the FPS to the refresh rate of the monitor.. So, if you run at 75Hz refresh rate, you'll sit with 75FPS, which is perfect.. Now, maintaining that FPS no matter what the game is throwing at the card is the ideal situation.. So, in my opinion, a 8800GTX and a 1280x1024 monitor is NOT a waste at all... Its perfect..
| Quote : here's a cheap monitor that will make getting the gtx worthwhile
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Nah, get this one instead. Its a 22" dell and is actually less than the Sceptre model. I just got mine yesterday and the monitor is freaking awesome! Not a dead or stuck pixel in site!
I know it doesnt have as many connection options as the sceptre model but I would tend to trust dell over sceptre when purchasing a monitor as far as quality is concerned.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna [...] ku=E2283YR
| Quote : Unless you are playing at 1900x1200+, a 8800gtx will be serious overkill for current games.
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Thats not true at all, I just upgraded from a 1280X1024 monitor to a 1680X1050 res monitor which seems to be the perfect resolution for the 8800GTX to run at.
Games such as Oblivion and R6 will still somewhat tax the GTX even at 1280X1024. In oblivion with my old monitor the absolute lowest FPS I would see in the thickest part of the forest was only around 47fps which is amazing and with my new monitor its around 40fps at the absolute lowest which is still amazing but as you can see the card begans to get more and more taxed.
Now as far as my other games are concerned I cannot tell a diff as this GTX just eats it up and spits it out
Thats impressive.. But dont you think oblivion is poorly written? Maybe? :?
| Quote : why would anyone want to buy 8800GTX for low res other than 24" LCD or 30" LCD. Is beyond me.
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I said this in another thread and I'll say it again:
-oblivion
-rainbow six vegas
-Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter
-splinter cell
-call of duty 2
-8XAA
-16XAF
-Gamma Correction AntiAliasing
-Transparency AntiAliasing:Supersampling
I disagree, the x1950xt would be a better buy than the x1900gt
| Quote : I disagree, the x1950xt would be a better buy than the x1900gt |
for once you and I agree taco, any of the 19...XT range would be a far better buy than a GT, especially at current prices!
I mean, comeon, the gt is an ok card, but considering the x1950pro is better, and that the xt version is only $210 now, there's no reason for the gt.
I have a school day today, how come your around?
| Quote : I mean, comeon, the gt is an ok card, but considering the x1950pro is better, and that the xt version is only $210 now, there's no reason for the gt.
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Yeah no doubt the XT and Pro are better but my friend just got a X1900GT off newegg 1 week ago and it was only 149.99 Not to bad 8)
x1950pro at the same price beats it in every way
| Quote : x1950pro at the same price beats it in every way |
First of all show me a link to a X1950pro at the same price as a X1900GT without a rebate needed. Second of all how do you figure a X1950pro beats a X1900GT in every way when the specs are nearly the same and the architecture and pipelines are identical?
The X1950pro is nothing more than a slightly overclocked X1900GT that is the only diff and its not enough to beat the X1900GT in every way as you claim. It would not be hard at all to hit the same speeds with the GT, IMO the GT is the better buy of the two seeing as it is somewhat cheaper and is often around 149-159.99 on newegg.com. Right now its inflated a little but its still cheaper than the Pro which is basically the same card.
X1950pro
256mb GDDR3
Core Clock 580mhz
Mem Clock 1400mhz
12(36 Pixel shader processor )
X1900GT
256mb GDDR3
Core Clock 512mhz
Memory Clock 1314
12 (36 pixel shader processors)
is mr taco back to sniffin something again
true, but the pro also has a better gpu running in it. I guess it does not beat the gt that badly, but for a small difference, I think the pro is a better buy over the gt
And no, the taco does not sniff anything
Except rocket fuel, the effect it has is uniginieable 8O
looks like we have another spammer amoungst us.
have you seen the mutiple (save and earn at your local e-tailor)
threads.
| Quote : why would anyone want to buy 8800GTX for low res other than 24" LCD or 30" LCD. Is beyond me.
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Got a problem with that. FPS.
But if you wanna keep running Oblivion on a 9600 and 30 inch monitor at maxed resolutions and 5 frames per second, feel free.
I wouldn't settle for anything below 19 or 20 inches. 55, yeah, thats overkill.
That's true, but for now, all a gtx will do is make you have so many fps with everything maxed out with 19" lcd res that your monitor probably won't be able to keep up if its a crt. But until crysis comes out, we can't say whether the gtx will be overkill or not for those resolutions, because for all we know, it might support 8 cores because it's so demanding and require 4 gigs of ram, or the gtx may be completely overkill for that resoultion, we just have to wait, that's the only answer right now. But the gtx will defnitely last a while due to the dx10 support
hey taco take a look at this.
http://www.shacknews.com/extras/2007/011607_crysis_1.x
it doesnt seem to demanding to me.
I dunno sirheck, check out that shading.
| Quote : I dunno sirheck, check out that shading. |
im simply saying that as jack mamais states that crysis
will work OK on modern computers.
now of course i want the best possiable graphics.
didn't pay attention, to busy drooling over the graphics
I think my cousin (also named Ali, -theres a lot of us, but that's besides the point) will be getting crysis the day it comes out and I have convinced him to get a gts when the price drops so we are going to be testing it out with vista, and I will be able to tell you then relaly how demanding it will be, but first I got to get him to join forums
than get a 6600gt
| Quote : than get a 6600gt |
already have a 68gt.
oh wait 2
naw man, I'm telling you, who ever told you the 6600gt is an old card is a lie, its actually from alien technology stolen from the aliens in crysis from the future, I get about 200 fps in oblivion, 500 in hl2, and about 3,000,000 in halo
Telling you, 6600gt is the way to go
| Quote : true, but the pro also has a better gpu running in it. |
Dude the GPUS in the both the GT and PRO are of the SAME CORE! they are no different and neither one is better than the other. LOL.
You said this same crazy thing about the X1900XT vs the X1950XT series and you were also wrong about that as I proved it too you in the other thread. Those both also share the EXACT same R580 core.
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