HDTV Tuner output to a standard NTSC television?

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"Michael Gaskins" <mbgaski@clemson.edu> wrote in message
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>I was browsing through some HDTV "stuff" and noticed that a lot of the
> HDTV Tuners (Samsung are the ones I'm looking at) say that you can
> choose to have it output in 480i format (and it has RCA outputs). Does
> this mean that I could pick up the HDTV Tuner and hook it up to a
> regular television set? (I'm assuming that it would show widescreen
> stuff in letterbox?). I'm really wanting HDTV for the digital
> reception, but I have no idea how long it will be before I can afford
> an HDTV display (and besides, I'd rather wait for the plasmas to come
> down in price rather than settle for a projection). Getting the tuner
> now and using my pretty decent 32" television would work really well
> for me. Again, I know it won't be showing the stuff in hi-resolution,
> I'm just interested in the digital reception at this point.


Yes you can use an STB for a "regular" NTSC 4:3 or 16:9 television. The 480i
picture will look better than what you normally get from DVD's so it's a
very nice upgrade. Most STB's have aspect ratio controls that will allow you
to choose letterbox and all of the other popular aspect ratio distortions. I
set up an NTSC OTA only friend of mine with my old Panasonic HD tuner and
save for the fact that it's a shitty/slow tuner, she is ecstatic about the
quality of picture she is receiving from rabbit ears.

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"Michael Gaskins" <mbgaski@clemson.edu> wrote in message
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: I was browsing through some HDTV "stuff" and noticed that a lot of the
: HDTV Tuners (Samsung are the ones I'm looking at) say that you can
: choose to have it output in 480i format (and it has RCA outputs). Does
: this mean that I could pick up the HDTV Tuner and hook it up to a
: regular television set? (I'm assuming that it would show widescreen
: stuff in letterbox?).

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Yes! It works beautifully.
I do it in my upstairs theatre on an older Pioneer 46" 1.50:1 RPTV.
The picture is outstanding: DVD quality.
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: I'm really wanting HDTV for the digital
: reception, but I have no idea how long it will be before I can afford
: an HDTV display (and besides, I'd rather wait for the plasmas to come
: down in price rather than settle for a projection). Getting the tuner
: now and using my pretty decent 32" television would work really well
: for me. Again, I know it won't be showing the stuff in hi-resolution,
: I'm just interested in the digital reception at this point.
:
: Thanks.

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Go for it!
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"Michael Gaskins" <mbgaski@clemson.edu> wrote in message
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> choose to have it output in 480i format (and it has RCA outputs). Does
> this mean that I could pick up the HDTV Tuner and hook it up to a
> regular television set? (I'm assuming that it would show widescreen

Yes. But keep in mind that a 32" HDTV with integrated tuner is now selling
for $810:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspag [...] pe=product

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Hi Joe,

I imagine the newer ones don't have the circuitry to save manufacturing
costs.

I have the Samsung SIR-T150 which has the RGB Circuitry. It is a very
solidly buit unit and is mostly made out of metal. But then again this unit
was a $700.00 item when it was new.

Here's a PDF for this unit:
http://www.ravenimaging.com/forsal [...] op_box.pdf

You can find them on eBay reasonably priced.

The next newer unit, the SIR-T151, I think has a molded plastic case and no
RGB Circuitry. I don't think any of the newer ones have it.

I believe there are converters but I've never looked into them. You would
need a component to VGA converter I guess.

-- Bob

"Joe Moore" <munged@bad.example.com> wrote in message
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> "Bob Lindabury" <bob@lindabury.net-nospam> wrote:
>
> >Not only that but some of the older Samsung tuners (like mine) will also
> >output RGB to a computer monitor which will give you full progressive HD.
>
> Only the older Samsung tuners output RGB to a computer monitor? Why
> aren't the newer ones as flexible? It seems to me that there are
> probably a lot more folks around with good, old, cheap, high
> resolution computer monitors than there are with new, expensive, high
> resolution TV "monitors". Aren't they reducing their market by leaving
> off this capability? Is there any way to adapt the output from current
> tuners to RGB monitors?
>
>
>
> joemooreaterolsdotcom

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Joe Moore wrote:

> "Bob Lindabury" <bob@lindabury.net-nospam> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi Joe,
>>
>>I imagine the newer ones don't have the circuitry to save manufacturing
>>costs.
>>
>>I have the Samsung SIR-T150 which has the RGB Circuitry. It is a very
>>solidly buit unit and is mostly made out of metal. But then again this unit
>>was a $700.00 item when it was new.
>>
>>Here's a PDF for this unit:
>>http://www.ravenimaging.com/forsale/SIR-T150/SIR-T150_set_top_box.pdf
>>
>>You can find them on eBay reasonably priced.
>>
>>The next newer unit, the SIR-T151, I think has a molded plastic case and no
>>RGB Circuitry. I don't think any of the newer ones have it.
>>
>>I believe there are converters but I've never looked into them. You would
>>need a component to VGA converter I guess.
>
>
> Thanks for the response. I'm shocked at how expensive these tuners
> are. I think I'm going to wait until the price comes down a bit. I did
> see a place which will rent one (SIT-T150) for 10 bucks a day to try
> out, so maybe I'll try that.
>
>
> joemooreaterolsdotcom

You should be shocked. In other countries OTA DTV receivers that work
with current analog TV sets cost as little as $40. (UK)

The manufacturers in the US of 8-VSB receivers have promised as far back
as 2000 that inexpensive OTA 8-VSB receivers for the US market would be
available SOON.

DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH!