i am a newbie here. i have a older dell optiplex gx 110 with a 731mhz p3. with 256ram . i am looking to making it faster so i can play certain games. I did a search but couldn't find a straight forward answer. What processor can i upgrade to and can i upgrade to more then 512mb of ram. If any one can help i would greatly appreciate it.
P3 1.4 as of a Slot 1 motherboard.
What type of games do you play? Or want to play...
With your credentials, you'l barely be able to play, as ex:HL2, if at all.
If you can get a 1.4Ghz PIII-S you'd have a processor faster than the early P4s. If you can use 512mb of RAM you'd have quite an acceptable system for web browsing and listening to music, and depending on your graphics card, light gaming.
More than that...not so sure.
Unless you play old games.
To add, for most mainstream games later than the year 00', you'd need to do a full rehaul. AGP card as 99% of games need a GPU now, more ram, a new PSU to accompany the graphics card and ect.
You'd be better off building a box man unless you play the origional HL or CS - a 400$ PC would do for you not to mention, with advances, being rediculously faster than upgrading to your current motherboards potential.
P3 (I'm assuming Coppermine core due to clock speed) has been surpassed by P3 Tualatin and then by P4 Willamette and then by P4 Northwood and then by P4 Prescott and then by PentiumD Smithfield then PD Presler....
then to C2D Conroe
Then we've gone to the new architecture P3 used P6 architecture, then P4 used Netburst and now theres Core microarchitecture.
What im basically trying to say is that the Pentium3 is so old its not worth it.
We've gone through 3 processor die shrinks, 2 new microarchitecture and 7 new cores since.
The system is not worth the ugrade.
I guess its akin to using a bluray player on a black and white TV.
PLEASE do yourself a favour and bin the machine. You can pick up a C2D system for not very much.
It will also give you a lot of satisfaction when you burn it and laugh like a maniac!
will any P3 possessor plug in or what. i know enough on how to change parts but not interchangabilty
Check Intel's site for chipset compatibility, Google, wikipedia, etc.
You've got to find out if your motherboard supports Socket 370 or Slot 1. The easiest way is to open the case. If you see what looks like a Super Nintendo cartrige on the motherboard, it's Slot 1. If it's a flat cpu with a fan, it's S370.
I may had been wrong about Intel making a slot 1 P3 1.4.
Good reference checking site: http://www.pricewatch.com/cpu/
Can you even get P3s any more?
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Ebay.
They never made a slot 1 1.4Ghz PIII. They introduced them only for 370.
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As low as a Pentium 3 500 new and in-stock at various internet shops through that site I mentioned.
9.99$
It would make a good web site server :?
Define "certain games" in:
| Quote : play certain games |
With or without an upgrade that system can work as a server/NAS, a carputer, a kids computer, part of a rendering farm/other cluster, or just as a porductivity computer, but modern gaming computer: never.
I get systems like this or even older for free all the time from family members and friends. I shread the data, reinstall an OS, and give it a way to familes that don't own a computer.
| Quote : I get systems like this or even older for free all the time from family members and friends. I shread the data, reinstall an OS, and give it a way to familes that don't own a computer. |
That's cool. I often refurbish old systems for others. Even these lowly systems were sombody's wet dream at one time. I still remember when a Pentium 200 MMX was an unbelievable processor. Old systems are still very welcome in many homes.
To the OP: there have been many, many developments since the PIII reigned supreme. You're better off leaving your present system intact and buying a new one. If you absolutely can't replace the whole thing, upgrade the RAM as much as possible (512 MB) and buy the best graphics card available for your platform. Ebay is the best place to look for vintage hardware.
| Quote : i am a newbie here. i have a older dell optiplex gx 110 with a 731mhz p3. with 256ram . i am looking to making it faster so i can play certain games. I did a search but couldn't find a straight forward answer. What processor can i upgrade to and can i upgrade to more then 512mb of ram. If any one can help i would greatly appreciate it. |
Many people here are forgetting that e P3 1.4GHz is pretty hard and relatively expensive to find these days.
Especially if you have one of those P3 boards with DDR RAM (and you have RRD sticks), at ewiz.com you can find some good bargains on very cheap, but still contemporary parts for putting togeather a decent PC. I'm not sure but that case should comply with the ATX standard:
Socket 754 Sempron 2600+ for $28
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=SDA26BX_64
PC CHIPS A31G Socket754/761GX/PCI-E/A&V&L/MATX Motherboard
(this is great value because for $36 has onboard video and both AGP and PCI-E x16 slots)
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-A31G
All these are much better parts than your system with a 1.4 GHz PIIIs and maybe kill even a 2.6 GHz Pentium4 in gaming. If you don't have DDR RAM it's not that hard to find a cheap 512MB stick. This setup is also very power saving an should ensure that you keep your old power supply if it's rated 300W and above, just make sure you can install a Micro-ATX board there.
You can use a Pentium III 1000EB. That's 1000MHz, 133MHz FSB, 256k cache.
You can probably get a "Tualatin Upgrade Kit" from Powerleap as well.
d00d, you got a Dell, you have InHell BIOS, and it might not work with a Tualatin adapter unless you follow the specific guidelines from Powerleap.
Not replying to you in particular Crashman, just too lazy to scroll...
to the OP, i strongly suggest you buy a new computer, but not from Dell etc, try to learn assemble your own pc man, you would feel really great/satisfied even if you couldn't buy top-end, state-of-the-art hardwares....but if you could, then go for it, it's more worthwhile
And don't even try to sell it on eBay. The whole system's probably worth less than it would cost for shipping.
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Willamette was worse than the later P3's
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If he sits on it for a few years the parts might become collectors items, thats when its time to sell!
You can find PIII-Ss on ebay for around 50 dollars US, which is a lot of money for the performance, but cheap for a decent upgrade to an old machine that you just want to keep running. PIIIs also only ever used SDRAM, which is one of the reasons PIIIs outsold the early P4s - SDRAM is/was much cheaper than RDRAM (not to mention the late PIIIs beat the Williamette P4s in a lot of benchmarks).
The optiplex 110 this person has may not have an AGP slot. It's also possible that it's a low profile machine. These could be two more strikes against it as a gamer.
Try craigslist also for occasional good deals on machines. Hard part is you kinda need to be an expert to spot the good deals. It's useless to ask questions because 9 times out of 10, they know less than you do.
I've always wondered what people meant when they say "light gaming". It implies that the quality you demand from your hardware is directly proportional to the amount of time you invest in games.
Personally, I do not play games that much, but when I do I freak out if I can't max out AA and AF. Most of my friends are like me, and I imagine many people in general feel the same way.
"Light gaming", BAH. [/rant]
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I recently saw a post in the "general homebuilt" (IIRC) forum that described the experience of someone who had significantly upgraded a Dell sytem. The short version is it literally burned up.
Upgrading a Dell box in any serious way is a very, very, very bad idea. You would be better off getting a complete new box from someone like TigerDirect and reusing your existing monitor and keyboard. Get a cheap corded optical mouse from Logitech, and you are good to go. Even the cheapest systems available at TigerDirect will seriously outperform your existing Dell box.
You haven't said what your budget is.
^^
You don't happen to have the link do you? That sounds like a thread of quality.
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<agrees with WizardOZ.
Start with Dell Support - there should be a sticker on your box with a specific model # for your build. Enter that model number and view, download and install all the patches/upgrades for your model.
The Dell Optiplex GX110 had an intel 810e chipset - all that I have seen have been s370 'flip chips'. They are great mobos but a bit quirky because of all the stuff you could do with them.
AC97 onboard sound, 100/133 fsb, 2 slots pc100/pc133 sdram-max 512mb, most with onboard video - some with a 3.3v 2x AGP slot.
Some 810e boards were mATX some regular ATX so you probably have anywhere from 3 to 5 pci slots. Some versions even had ISA slots!
I've upgraded and 'maxed-out' a bunch of these boards. The first place to start is with your ram. You need to verify the bus speed (either 100 or 133) of the existing ram and purchase your upgrade ram as appropriate. WARNING - some dingleberry may have populated your box with 2 128mb ram sticks to reach your current level. THAT would be a bummer! (because in order to max at 512mb you would have to find TWO 256mb sticks to replace the 2 128mb sticks)
Depending upon your bios you may well find a P!!! 1.1 ghz flipchip *EB* (133 fsb / atc l2 cache) for less than 20 bucks. Same thing for a vid card if you have the 3.3v 2x AGP slot on the mobo. Pricewatch and ebay are your friends!
You are looking at a $50-$60 investment on a machine that's worth maybe $125-$150. Not really a bad investment to max-out the box!
Update to directX 9 if your video aloows (32mb minimum I believe ???) - and you may want to find a 10/100tx nic card for around $5.00. If I remember correctly these puppies didn't believe in onboard LAN.
Good luck and enjoy!
Build a new system! I just put together a 939 system that was very cheap and runs great. 3200+ $60, Epox Uli 1697 $70, 7900GS $160 after rebate. I used RAM, drives, PSU, and case that I had laying around.
How do you like that 3200+, Adam?
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Love it! It runs all my games nicely and overclocks very well.
I got it up to 2.6 from 2.0 and I'm pretty sure that I can get it higher with better cooling.
Wow, nice overclock. I have the slowest A64, the 2800+. It runs everything too. It makes me wonder what the Cores are like if these (now) cheap processors seem like beasts to us... a Core would be amazing...
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