AGP card DX 10 coming soon ?

The outlook does not look bright.

Wasn't AGP 2.0 coming out...? I thought I heard that somewhere...? Maybe they changed it from AGP 2.0 to PCIe 2.0

the outlook also didn't look too bright for the future of AGP back on the move to PCI-E, yet you still see top end cards ported to AGP...

I think there will be DX10 AGP cards, however they will be few and far between, and nowhere near as fast as their PCI-E counterparts. I predict it will also be some time before you see them, probably around 6 months after the release of its PCI-E counterpart. Take for example the X1950. after being out for some time, they finally released its AGP cousin, however diluted.

HOWEVER, I do not believe it is cool if they do. the longer legacy devices are kept around, the slower it is for better technologies to progress and the more things are bloated down to support dying tech. how much more effort does it take to make a PCI-PCI-E bridge and plug something into a 1x slot?

In all due respect, PCI should have died last year. Serial and Parallel should have died in the home (still needed for some schools, fabrication and industrial applications) 5 years ago, and IDE should be on its last legs. AGP also has no right to continue in my opinion as there is next to no support for it anymore. aside from ASRock, there is no more support for AGP mobo's left in the enthusiast market. better performance can be had going with a cheap mobo and proc upgrade than continuing to extend the life of a dead standard. If DX10 is something that is appealing to you, save yer $$ and get an upgrade worthwhile.

That's not a very pretty picture so like I said, the outlook does not look bright.

And georgelawton's right. The AGP version of the X1950Pro isn't a diluted version of it's PCI-E cousin. Ditto for the 7600GT and it's AGP variant.

I would say, it's totally dark.

Don't expect to see any next-gen AGP cards.

Not likely, and if they do the AGP cards will be released later and probably be more expensive. Seriously just get a new mobo you won't regret it.

I thought having a DX 10 card with DX 10 drivers from the manufactuer will work in XP.

I would say, it's totally dark.

Don't expect to see any next-gen AGP cards.

I would say the only light is dim and not worth considering.

I expect low end DX10 cards for the proffesional workstation market.

Even then it might be the last of a generation, and very expensive for what you get.

Something to consider is the effect of the bus on communications. Considering aall the things expected from DX10 itself a bridge and the limited access of AGP may remove alot of benefits.

I think it unlikely that there will be any AGP DX10 cards and if so they will be very expensive.

I mean I can't talk because I'm currently using AGP and at only 4x at that due to my 4 year old machine.

But seriously, it's time to upgrade, I know I will be at some time this year. Possibly when R600 and Nvidias next gen DX10 (presumably 8900 series if they follow their naming scheme) come out.

from This article.

Yep ,,They sure will...
Look , they are selling every agp x1950pro they make, its always out of stock !!! they sell out in a hour !!!!!!! and thats just a x1950pro ..
DX-10 card will sell 2x times faster , why , it just will..
AGP people are power hungry , even if they can't use it fully !
Its just a fast power fix ...
AGP people will buy without giving it much thought...
That makes them the #1 best customer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I kinda infered AGP would be a bottleneck, but for the non-traditional things (like physics, procedural stuff, replication, etc.), not for the usual graphics stuff. Also not sure what latency would add.

I hope there are no AGP DX10 cards. It's time to phase AGP out. I bit the bullet and upgraded. Consumers pay more for AGP cards anyhow. I'm afraid the AGP format is going nowhere and I hope it stays that way. PCI Express FTW!

Just give me a second to fetch my bone saw so i can adjust my Tseng Labs Vesa card to accomodate one of those tight PCIe slots...

Just let AGP die already.

In fact, the floppy drive needs to die as well.

I preddicted this first.

I'll be first in line.

Do the 8600 max out, or come close to maxing out, the AGP bandwidth?
Synergy6

Does any AGP video card actually max out the bandwith of 8x AGP?

I don't really care either way if they make a DX10 card for AGP. By the time the games are "DX10 Only" they will be rolling out the succesor to the PCI-e slot. I mean, there are hardly any games that are even "DX9 Only". That all being said, I am still running an AGP x800gto, and I am quite happy with the performance. I have not had a reason to go spend a small fortune trying to upgrade my whole system to take advantage of DX10 or PCI-E.

Really, its all just a ploy to get you all to spend money on Vista. Which is funny to me, because I think Windows XP is a very good and stable OS, figuring you know how to do simple things like remove spyware, clean your registry, defrag, etc... In fact, I haven't had a system generated crash for over a year or so. The only time I have crashed is when I tried to OC my cpu a little to hard. So way to go, Vista people.

although people have said the same about 98 and 2k, is this actually going be the OS that no one wants to change from. have microsoft made too good an OS. after all, it has been around for 5-6 years and i personally have not been clammering for a new one.

what is do you think, XP too good or vista not good enough?

I have always been one of those people to say, "If it ain't broke...".

That being said, I haven't even seen Vista in action. It may be cool and new stuff is always exciting, but I just don't feel the need... yet. I am sure there will be a day when I actually get Vista. But for me, it's not an option until I fully upgrade my system. I know it would run on my current PC, but it is going to run worse than XP. And everything I play runs great, so why waste the money? There isn't even any DX10 games yet (that I am aware of). You would think they would want to have one or two at Vista launch. Other than DX10, what are the other big improvements of Vista?

I really am curious, though... Does any card actually max out AGP 8x bandwith? :?:

The important question would be.. why?

*Shrugs* This feels like one of those, "hey what if <Insert hypothetical scenario here> ". Then again, I don't know.

Really.

Linky.

However, being that it is the INQ and that TGGA suspects they will be low-end (8300-8400s) I'll stick with my original assessment that the outlook still does not look bright.

Sure,but the newest and greatest that are coming out right now require a wider bandwidth than agp provides.So I don't believe we'll see and agp version of the 8800gtx or gts.

Dahak

Show me anywhere then that says they will be producing agp video cards that will support dx10.I would be very surprised if they came out with one.

Dahak