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October 21, 2010 6:59:24 PM

Hello, I was just curious to hear from you, as to why do most ladies fear technical courses. because it has come to my notice that ever since I started my technical courses am always so rounded by men, and am always asked by my friends who take other courses why is it like that, I would really like to be on the know as to why

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October 21, 2010 8:08:45 PM

It's a matter of socialization. Men are socialized to enter more technical related fields like mathematics, engineering, etc... Women on the other hand are socialized to enter fields like nursing, teaching, etc... In other words, women aren't turned on to potential alternative career paths by teachers, parents, etc... involving technical matters.
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October 21, 2010 8:26:48 PM

+1 to all that. And to add to that impressive observation note any woman worth persuing is the Republican front runner in a political race near you.
October 22, 2010 10:02:43 AM

so that's why!! mhh
October 22, 2010 7:58:08 PM

This topic has been moved from the section News & Leisure to section Work & Education by Buwish
October 22, 2010 8:25:10 PM

buwish,
It's not just socialization. Men in general are, for example, better at spacial visualization and things requiring that.

badge,
No surprise. Republican women, in general, do seem to be better looking than Democratic women.
October 22, 2010 9:23:43 PM

hahahahahaha! LMAO! *rim shot*
October 22, 2010 10:10:20 PM

Women are just generally interested and motivated by different things than men. Socialization arguments are put forward by people who believe that everyone is essentially the same. The truth of it is that people are diverse, some of that diversity is found in gender and people are capable of being themselves without having to be taught by social convention. Women do not fear technical work they are simply uninterested for the most part.
October 23, 2010 1:20:38 AM

^ QFT

Its not fear . . . women see most technical detail as unnecessary. A thing either works, or it doesn't. Like it or don't like it. BTW, what color is it?

Seriously, this belief that everyone is essentially the same and we'd all be there if we had the right village to raise us is just nonsense.
October 23, 2010 1:28:51 AM

why do most computer nerds never get any ?
October 23, 2010 11:00:56 AM

Twoboxer said:
^ QFT

Its not fear . . . women see most technical detail as unnecessary. A thing either works, or it doesn't. Like it or don't like it. BTW, what color is it?

Seriously, this belief that everyone is essentially the same and we'd all be there if we had the right village to raise us is just nonsense.


Yes. And let me add to that. When discussing women with me, keep in mind the two topics most interesting to women are: (1) Why men are all disgusting pigs, and (2) How to attract men.

October 23, 2010 11:25:49 AM

spentshells said:
why do most computer nerds never get any ?


Google foreplay and try and comprehend how it's application is not related to a video game.
October 23, 2010 3:09:43 PM

Wamphryi said:
Women are just generally interested and motivated by different things than men. Socialization arguments are put forward by people who believe that everyone is essentially the same. The truth of it is that people are diverse, some of that diversity is found in gender and people are capable of being themselves without having to be taught by social convention. Women do not fear technical work they are simply uninterested for the most part.

I would say, youre onto something here, with one caveat however, that being that gender is the largest/greatest of these diversities
October 23, 2010 9:39:28 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
I would say, youre onto something here, with one caveat however, that being that gender is the largest/greatest of these diversities


I agree.
October 24, 2010 1:42:42 AM

badge said:
Google foreplay and try and comprehend how it's application is not related to a video game.



awesome !!!!!!!!!!
October 25, 2010 8:40:34 AM

I'm a "social scientist" by education, so I tend to look at people as essentially the same. Obviously, men and women are different, even when it comes to which parts of the brain control for certain functions, emotions, etc... But keeping that in mind, I've always been a firm believer that we become what we are socialized to become. You raise a girl to like tech related items, she'll be a woman that likes tech related things. You raise a boy to fashion or some god awful thing, he'll be a man that likes fashion related things.
October 25, 2010 11:25:34 AM

While I do agree, you can also teach your dog to roll over for treats
Its not something theyd normally do
Just sayin
October 26, 2010 6:05:06 PM

buwish said:
I'm a "social scientist" by education, so I tend to look at people as essentially the same. Obviously, men and women are different, even when it comes to which parts of the brain control for certain functions, emotions, etc... But keeping that in mind, I've always been a firm believer that we become what we are socialized to become. You raise a girl to like tech related items, she'll be a woman that likes tech related things. You raise a boy to fashion or some god awful thing, he'll be a man that likes fashion related things.
On one hand you say men and women are different. On the other hand, you seem to say they can be socialized to be the same. Since its not possible to simultaneously hold both views, I'll assume you accept there are limits to what socialization can achieve.

Otherwise it might lead to quite a lively discussion of gay vs. heterosexual life-styles lol. But not goin' there . . . instead consider:

Socialization is very effective at adjusting values and attitudes, but not abilities. The notion that I can hit a major league curve ball . . . or become a world-class composer or concert pianist . . . by spending the infamous "10,000 hours" (eg, "Outliers") in practice is simply ludicrous.

Which may well be why many woman *do* begin careers in (eg) math, and almost none reach its highest levels.

Interesting how Larry Summers was castigated for saying the notion of inate ability should be considered/studied in this and other cases. Noooo, can't do that lol! Can't even suggest it. Let's just assume that everyone can do anything well - its "settled science" - and move on.

Ludicrous.
October 27, 2010 12:33:51 AM

Theres motives to "shut them up"
Its a common tactic used by certain groups of people, groups, for some reason, no one has theorized about, but again, maybe theres a reason for that as well
November 14, 2010 7:16:58 AM

Their is a part of men's brain that is much more complex than a women but the women has a characteristic of balancing her left and right brain to compensate this.

November 15, 2010 1:34:57 AM

dEAne said:
Their is a part of men's brain that is much more complex than a women but the women has a characteristic of balancing her left and right brain to compensate this.
Yes, we are different. And both are necessary :) 

December 23, 2010 2:13:40 PM

Wow, OP is quite ignorant. I'm sitting at my job as we speak as an Information Systems Tech for a hospital. Take a guess as to how many men there are around me out of the 8 chairs in my row? Three. In my department of 24? Five. And my supervisors both are? Women. And they do a damn good job too.

Apparently you've not been out in the real world, kid.
January 3, 2011 10:52:33 PM



It will be nice to know if TOMS could tell us , how many females are members here and also how many of them have reached the higher levels of membership.

January 11, 2011 12:09:33 AM

I think, technical is quite complex and women just don't like things that are so complex.
January 11, 2011 10:08:34 AM

goodtom said:
I think, technical is quite complex and women just don't like things that are so complex.


Then can you tell me why my female supervisor is a server admin AND network engineer with the years of experience and certifications to back it up?

How ******* ignorant are you people anyways? :heink: 
January 11, 2011 10:44:55 AM


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Then can you tell me why my female supervisor is a server admin AND network engineer with the years of experience and certifications to back it up?



Gentlemen (and ladies, if any)

We are talking in general here. In NASA 1/3rd staff is female, but then again, why only 1/3rd.

Only few of the women choose to be technical as compared to men. This is as much true as only few women drivers are good.

This is only because of the very perceptions and tastes women carry about themselves. (Again in general) women want to do things or related things which they have been doing since the evolution of civilized worlds, such as Nursing, home care, raising kids (not that men are not involved here) etc. So MASS women still follow the same attitude. You ask them about a diamond ring and they will tell you the brands, the shine of which is better, prizes, international rates etc. However you ask them to choose a cellphone not because of its looks but its features, they blink their beautiful eyes.

Women can be technical, just that they themselves think it is tuf and fussy for them.
January 12, 2011 6:22:00 AM

This is too generalized, it is not credentials.
January 12, 2011 7:58:57 AM

spyware said:
This is too generalized, it is not credentials.


Okay, if you want to keep it in Computer related stuffs only, then I would say we can find a better % of women as compared to any field but IMO it still be 40% more or less. The reason we have a better statistics here is Women also play games these days and that PC/Lapies are used by everybody.

I mentioned earlier as well, and would request again if moderators are watching (which they always), could they filter out the female members and shows us in some graphical form how much do they number?
January 12, 2011 1:43:10 PM

Well it could be the female is smarter than the male and has learned that most of the technical courses and fields are inhabited by functional idiots who think they are superior to everyone.

Then the woman comes along, marries the f.i., divorces him and has half of his assets and income.

You can only understand your own limits once you realize how dumb you really are...
January 12, 2011 2:04:50 PM

Ok stop trying to make this a logical debate because there is no logic to be had in your argument. Women are just as capable of these jobs as men are and do just as well in them when they apply themselves like men do. As I said before, there are more women in my IS department than men, and I can say that for many other IT departments I've worked for. This thread is full of morons who have not yet gone out into the real world and seen just how wrong they are about this sort of thing. Get off your high horse. You are not better.
January 12, 2011 3:29:05 PM

"Socialized". Is that like Communism?
January 13, 2011 11:05:52 AM

Psychoteddy said:
As I said before, there are more women in my IS department than men, and I can say that for many other IT departments I've worked for.



not every body is lucky like you.. this is the debate all about. :bounce: 
January 17, 2011 11:35:39 AM

asheesh1_2000 said:
not every body is lucky like you.. this is the debate all about. :bounce: 


It's not a matter of luck. I'm an average tech guy working in an average IT department making average pay for an average job.
January 17, 2011 12:05:05 PM

Psychoteddy said:
It's not a matter of luck. I'm an average tech guy working in an average IT department making average pay for an average job.



' average ' is a relative term my friend.
January 17, 2011 3:02:18 PM

asheesh1_2000 said:
' average ' is a relative term my friend.



Regardless, I don't see how "luck" has anything to do with this at all. Seems like everyone here is just trying to look for excuses to justify their bigotry.
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