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January 20, 2007 6:30:35 PM

Might be a little early for this yet...but I am sure everyone wants to know what an E4300 can do, so here's the place to put it. :) 

I am personally very interested not only in the highest OC you can do, but also the E4300's capabilities with NO Vcore Adjustments...seeing as the motherboard I am planning on has no Vcore adjustment (but it has everything else...go figure). So, if you can, please post both with and without Vcore adjustments.

Thanks!

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January 23, 2007 4:41:24 AM

I would really like to bring this Thread Back....or well get someone to post here ...I am VERY interested in overclocking a 4300....I dont have alot of exp with OC so well...help us NOOBs and losers out ......how bout getting a couple of us to say 2.4 ..... how bout on a 945 965 ect mobo....where to start...MSI ASUS mobo's anything...
January 23, 2007 5:19:21 AM

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Might be a little early for this yet...but I am sure everyone wants to know what an E4300 can do, so here's the place to put it. :) 

I am personally very interested not only in the highest OC you can do, but also the E4300's capabilities with NO Vcore Adjustments...seeing as the motherboard I am planning on has no Vcore adjustment (but it has everything else...go figure). So, if you can, please post both with and without Vcore adjustments.

Thanks!

Do a GOOGLE :o 

There would be a few tech sites that would have OC'd them.
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January 23, 2007 6:31:41 PM

Why would you plan on getting a motherboard you knew had no ability to adjust vcore when you want to overclock...?
January 23, 2007 7:03:31 PM

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Why would you plan on getting a motherboard you knew had no ability to adjust vcore when you want to overclock...?


Excellent question. Because I am trying to build my C2D computer at the lowest possible price. The board I am planning on getting is $75.99 (ASUS P5L-MX). The closest board I have seen that has everything I want and has Vcore adjustments (and has fairly good reviews) is around $120. If any one else has any recommendations of a motherboard that has onboard video (again to keep the price down; This way I don't have to buy a video card, although I may upgrade later if I feel I need it), at least one pci express slot, dual channel memory capability, and of course will run an E4300, and has been shown to reach ~320 FSB, for under $100, please let me know :)  . I am not looking for an amazing overclock...my original plan (before I heard about the E4300) was to get an E6300 and overclock to ~333 FSB, which I would have been perfectly happy with. Now with the E4300, if I can just get up to 300 FSB, it will be a 50% overclock, 2.7 GHz.

Hence, why I want to know how high people can get the E4300 before having to raise the Vcore...if many people make it to 300 FSB with no Vcore adjustments, then perfect. If not, then I may just have to consider upgrading my mobo...but I would rather not since the one I'm planning has a really attractive price, and everything other than the nonexistant Vcore adustment is perfect.
January 23, 2007 10:17:34 PM

Try a Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 at $108. It is basically the same as the DS3 except it doesnt have 'solid capacitors' or some mumbo-jumbo like that. Saves you $40 though.
January 25, 2007 4:13:12 AM

E4300 overclock not work with P5L-MX or P5LVM-1394. Seems not because of the CPU or RAM but the PCI/PCI-E clock lock.

We have many unsuccessful cases about these two mobo.
January 25, 2007 4:56:18 AM

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E4300 overclock not work with P5L-MX or P5LVM-1394. Seems not because of the CPU or RAM but the PCI/PCI-E clock lock.

We have many unsuccessful cases about these two mobo.


Really? Thats interesting...Can you point me to any posts or links describing any particular cases where this has occurred? There were many reviews of this mobo on NewEgg that said that they got the P5L-MX to 319 just fine, but when they got to 320 the NIC stopped working. People then put in a PCI NIC and then were able to reach 360 FSB...This was with the E6300. I would love to hear more specifics of the cases where there were troubles overclocking to ~300 FSB
January 25, 2007 7:07:22 AM

Read from some chinese discussion groups at Hong Kong.

I myself brought the P5LVM-1394 and all overclock is not success so far. Could oc to 233 but then the build-in LAN port would fail.

The P5L-MX seems overclockable for E6300(some successful cases published before) but not for E4300. Similar case on P5LVM-1394.

These two mobo seems unable to lock PCI-E/PCI speed for E4300(FSB800). RAM or CPU seems not the root cause of the failure so most likely the PCI bus is the reason.

Reason not yet know so be carefule to buy these two mobo for oc E4300. Better wait for a successful case before choose your mobo for oc.
January 25, 2007 4:18:17 PM

I finally put together my system last night. This is my first new system in ~5 years, and first time overclocking.

2GB DDR800 XMS2 5-5-5-12 1.9v
Gigabyte GA 965P DS3 Rev2
E4300
Tuniq Tower 120

Current : 356mhz x 9 @ 3203mhz, (Stable - 6hr Orthos)
vCore - 1.380v
Rest are stock voltages

Max:
390mhz x 9 @ 3.5mhz
Mem Timings 5-5-5-15
DDR2 Overvoltage +0.4v
FSB OverVoltage +0.3v
(G)MCH Voltage +0.3v
CPU Voltage +1.500v

Notes: It was stable for Memtest, Prime95, SuperPi, but the temp caught up to it on Test 2 in Orthos. The Tuniq couldn't keep it cool enough, the temp went to >60C and Explorer started to crash. It probably would have been fine with a water cooler.

I'm also using an old 3dfx voodoo banshee PCI video card (I'm being cheap and waffling on a video card decision). Not sure if, or how that would affect my overclock or stability =p

Resources Used:
Voltage Settings
Stability Testing
Semi Useful Guide

*I'm using a 965P motherboard, put 945 by mistake.
January 25, 2007 6:52:21 PM

Where did you buy the MB? :?:
January 25, 2007 7:00:04 PM

www.allstarshop.com

Price went up to 150 though, from 130. Newegg has em for $140 shipped, but you'd have to ask em which rev it is if you're specifically looking for rev2.

*I meant 965P not 945P if you were wondering about that :p 
January 26, 2007 3:46:34 AM

:D  okay makes more sense now. Gigabyte has a "Now Available" tagged onto the 945P ds3 rev 2 on their website but I have yet to see it anywhere in stock
January 26, 2007 5:34:42 AM

I just got my E4300 up and running:
Currently @ 3420 MHz
Memory @ 760 w/ 4-4-4-12 timings @ 2.0V
Chipset and FSB overvolted .1V

I need to try a later version of the bios to see if I can squeeze more out of the DQ6: currently running version 5
January 28, 2007 12:43:13 AM

Just built my rig last night and I've been testing it since then.

It is running quite stable at:
E4300 @ 2997mhz (333fsb)

I changed almost nothing in the S3 bios. I increased the fsb speed to 333, set the processor core voltage manually to 1.325v (stock), and set the ram multiplier to 2.0 (1:1). My 667 ram is running at 667 now and everything is working wonderfully. No other changes were required. (Well I disabled the onboard audio, but that was because I have a sound card)

My rig is E4300 processor, Gigabyte 965P-S3, Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, 1GB 667 ram, EVGA 8800GTS, 700w OCZ GameXstream PSU, SB Audigy soundcard, 80GB Sata II Hitachi drive.

My 3dMark06 score went up from 7404 to 8410 after the oc. That's a 1000 pt difference, not bad. Also Windows seems to boot faster. The highest temp my processor hit was 56c and was usually in the upper 40s to low 50s full load (used orthos and also tried a dual prime95 setup). Idle processor is around 23-25c on each core.

Overall, the E4300 was an awesome buy for me and I am very pleased with it. I could certainly push it further if I wanted to tweak with voltages and bring the cpu temp up a bit higher, but I'm satisfied with 3ghz stable.
January 28, 2007 2:26:24 AM

Well, after hearing about the problems with the e4300 on the p5l-mx, I think I have decided to switch to a GIGABYTE GA-965G-DS3 for $135 at newegg...it's a good $60 more than the asus board, but it has better onboard video (remember I'm not a gamer) and it will be sure to overclock easily. I also debated going for a cheaper 945P board and getting a cheap video card, but it would have totaled about the same price as the ds3 and may not overclock as well...so it's worth it I think.

Given that, its really good to hear the early reports from you guys about what the e4300 can really do. So far it's living up to the expectations.

Keep posting em! :) 
January 28, 2007 3:33:49 AM

The 965G chipset doesnt overclock as well as the 965P chipset. Be aware of that. You will have to work much harder. That board averages a FSB overclock of 300-325. A very few have got it up to 350.
January 29, 2007 1:46:53 PM

Hi all! I'm going for the E4300 and a Asrock mobo named conroe865pe to use my old but still ok 4-sticks of Kingston RAM, (3gig DDr-400 3200), in dualchannel, and my radeon x1950 pro AGP. I'm new with overclocking but will give it a try. Here's some info collected by another guy that is setting up a similar system as mine:
http://users.telenet.be/oiges/

looking forward to oc this when i get it two days from now... :)  I'll check back with results!
January 29, 2007 2:20:38 PM

Quote:
I finally put together my system last night. This is my first new system in ~5 years, and first time overclocking.

2GB DDR800 XMS2 5-5-5-12 1.9v
Gigabyte GA 965P DS3 Rev2
E4300
Tuniq Tower 120

Current : 356mhz x 9 @ 3203mhz, (Stable - 6hr Orthos)
vCore - 1.380v
Rest are stock voltages

Max:
390mhz x 9 @ 3.5mhz
Mem Timings 5-5-5-15
DDR2 Overvoltage +0.4v
FSB OverVoltage +0.3v
(G)MCH Voltage +0.3v
CPU Voltage +1.500v

Notes: It was stable for Memtest, Prime95, SuperPi, but the temp caught up to it on Test 2 in Orthos. The Tuniq couldn't keep it cool enough, the temp went to >60C and Explorer started to crash. It probably would have been fine with a water cooler.

I'm also using an old 3dfx voodoo banshee PCI video card (I'm being cheap and waffling on a video card decision). Not sure if, or how that would affect my overclock or stability =p

Resources Used:
Voltage Settings
Stability Testing
Semi Useful Guide

*I'm using a 965P motherboard, put 945 by mistake.


Nice job man, I want to buy the exact same set up in June (bar the video card lol), I was just wondering, what kind of sound levels are you getting using the Tuniq Tower 120/E4300 combo @ 3.2Ghz?

I want to hit 3.2 as well, but not if it sounds like the a jet engine, what about compared to stock speed?
January 29, 2007 3:03:02 PM

Check out the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3P (v2.0), it looks like a DS4 without the heat pipes.
I found it on their website.

GA-965P-DS3P (rev. 2.0)
January 29, 2007 4:04:24 PM

Quote:
Just built my rig last night and I've been testing it since then.

It is running quite stable at:
E4300 @ 2997mhz (333fsb)

I changed almost nothing in the S3 bios. I increased the fsb speed to 333, set the processor core voltage manually to 1.325v (stock), and set the ram multiplier to 2.0 (1:1). My 667 ram is running at 667 now and everything is working wonderfully. No other changes were required.


This is what I want to hear. Can anyone else confirm this?

Why? DDR667 is fairly inexpensive. 3ghz seems like it's fairly close to the max of what this chip can do with air cooling anyway. The mobo isn't OCed and shouldn't need to be anything fancy, the RAM isn't OCed and shouldn't need to be anything fancy. If the e4300 can do 333mhz FSB without significant votage increases on air cooling without running hot this could be the sweet spot for price/performance gaming rigs that has been rather elusive for some time.

Anyone else post their results for 333mhz FSB with e4300?
January 29, 2007 4:40:19 PM

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the tuniq tower is inaudible at it's lowest setting, and only is a c or 2 higher than it's full speed mode. Also, I suggest getting the ds4 over the ds3, same bios and everything, just has a lot better cooling, it's not worth the cash for the DQ6. I think you can get over 3.2 to possible 3.6ghz stable, since the allendale core runs cooler than conroe. But just know that there are new conroes coming out that may achieve even better performances for the price



Nice, and yeah, just checked out the DS4, gotta love those heatpipes, still though its, £20 more than the DS3, not sure its worth it or not if your on a budget. 3.2Ghz is fine for me, not trying to kill my chip. What about these new Conroes, are you refering to the E6320/6420 with the higher cache levels? If so, I don't think the performance increase will be enough to justify buying them over the E4300 will it?
January 29, 2007 5:10:58 PM

My Tuniq speed is maxed out and rather loud with a whirring sound. One of the fan cables is vibrating or something, should be easily fixed with some tape or tieing it down. It's nearly inaudible at its lowest settings mentioned earlier.

I seem to be capping out stability-wise around 362-370fsb, and am trying to find the sweet spot between there before I fiddle with noise/fan speeds. It's so frustrating, I can get it to 378fsb, but about 1-2 hours into testing Orthos will report a failure.

Hopefully things will stay peachy when I get a real video card, I'll likely have to get a slot fan so the temps don't go any higher than it is now.
January 29, 2007 6:53:31 PM

What was the cost of your rig?


I heard people say that you could over clock the 4300 on low end boards and I was saying that you needed a high end board and ram if you wanted to get above 3 ghz.
January 29, 2007 7:01:34 PM

Quote:
Just built my rig last night and I've been testing it since then.

It is running quite stable at:
E4300 @ 2997mhz (333fsb)

I changed almost nothing in the S3 bios. I increased the fsb speed to 333, set the processor core voltage manually to 1.325v (stock), and set the ram multiplier to 2.0 (1:1). My 667 ram is running at 667 now and everything is working wonderfully. No other changes were required. (Well I disabled the onboard audio, but that was because I have a sound card)

My rig is E4300 processor, Gigabyte 965P-S3, Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, 1GB 667 ram, EVGA 8800GTS, 700w OCZ GameXstream PSU, SB Audigy soundcard, 80GB Sata II Hitachi drive.

My 3dMark06 score went up from 7404 to 8410 after the oc. That's a 1000 pt difference, not bad. Also Windows seems to boot faster. The highest temp my processor hit was 56c and was usually in the upper 40s to low 50s full load (used orthos and also tried a dual prime95 setup). Idle processor is around 23-25c on each core.

Overall, the E4300 was an awesome buy for me and I am very pleased with it. I could certainly push it further if I wanted to tweak with voltages and bring the cpu temp up a bit higher, but I'm satisfied with 3ghz stable.


What are temps with the Freezer 7 like ?

Looking at buying an:

E4300
DS3
2GB 800MHZ RAM
AC 7 PRO
AS 5
X1950XT
(Have the rest)
January 29, 2007 9:48:07 PM

Well, after some rethinking I decided to spend a little more and go with the 965P S3, instead of the G version and just bite the bullet and get a relatively cheap video card. It'll cost me about $40 more than going with the 965G, but this way I am sure that the board won't be my limiting factor in overclocking. I hear the S3 is identical to the ds3 except for the solid state capacitors, and I think the E4300 usually hits it's wall before the S3 does on the reviews I've seen.

Again, since I don't game I'm looking on the low end for video cards, and after looking around some, it looks like the GeForce 6200 series can unlock 4 extra pipelines as well as handle some overclock...I was looking at this. It's a GeForce 6200 128MB, 128 bit memory bandwidth, 4 pipeline (supposedly unlockable to 8 ), 300 MHz core (people have overclocked this to 400-500), 550 MHz memory (people have overclocked to ~650), all for $40 if I don't send in the $10 rebate...The only gripe some reviewers have had is that some people got a card that had a very loud fan. Since this is a low end card, and this forum is mostly high end users, most likely no one has any experience with the GeForce 6200...but if you happen to know anything about it, I'd like to hear your thoughts. Although I want to spend as little as possible on a vid card(under $50), I do want to get the best for my money...I am also wondering, how would this card compare to the 965G onboard card?

(maybe this question would be better placed in the graphics forum.....)

EDIT: specifics about possible vid card, and couple more questions.. :) 
January 30, 2007 2:04:51 AM

Actually the 6200 ought to do better than intel's top integrated graphics. I'll dig up some links tonight for you. :D 
January 30, 2007 4:33:49 AM

Quote:
What are temps with the Freezer 7 like ?

Looking at buying an:

E4300
DS3
2GB 800MHZ RAM
AC 7 PRO
AS 5
X1950XT
(Have the rest)


Well I'm seeing around 22-25c idle, and with Titan Quest running I hit 34-36c on each core, or thereabouts. The highest I saw was 55c, and that was only occasionally while running dual prime 95s or orthos dual core version. Heat at my current settings with the Freezer 7 has not been a concern. Oh, I am running the fan at 100% though. Honestly, its no louder then my system was before. Oh, and I left the MX-1 paste on. I have AS5, but heard good things about the MX-1. It's preapplied and guaranteed to be the correct amount since Arctic Cooling applied it themselves. Honestly, I'd recommend just using the preapplied MX-1.

The Gigabyte S3/DS3 has a wide range of fsb numbers it can hit, and I feel the E4300 would face other issues long before being limited by that. The S3 appears to be a solid board for OC'ing this processor in my opinion. DDR800 is nice to have, but unless you don't want to OC your 667 ram, or plan to go higher then 333 fsb, it's not necessary.
January 30, 2007 6:17:05 AM

Okay got some links
early drivers gma x3000 vs gma950 (at bottom of article)
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/print.php?cid=6&id...

using the most recent 14.25 drivers ignore the synthetic scores and look at real world gaming benchmarks
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/chipsets/display/ig965...

gma950 compared to geforce 6200 for reference (read through the whole article for even more benchmarks)hit refresh if the article doesnt load
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1821813,00.a...

Conclusion
1.In real world gaming the GMA950 beats the GMA x3000 hands down even when the newest 14.25 drivers are used.
2.The geforce 6200 beats the GMA950 easily.

Hope this helps :D 
January 30, 2007 11:36:29 AM

Quote:
What are temps with the Freezer 7 like ?

Looking at buying an:

E4300
DS3
2GB 800MHZ RAM
AC 7 PRO
AS 5
X1950XT
(Have the rest)



The Gigabyte S3/DS3 has a wide range of fsb numbers it can hit, and I feel the E4300 would face other issues long before being limited by that. The S3 appears to be a solid board for OC'ing this processor in my opinion. DDR800 is nice to have, but unless you don't want to OC your 667 ram, or plan to go higher then 333 fsb, it's not necessary.

The 800mhz RAM im getting is incredibly cheap. Hopefully i'll get it running at 4-4-4-12 @ 667mhz down from 5-5-5-15 @ 800mhz.
January 30, 2007 12:15:18 PM

Well, I put the system in my sig together last Friday, was away all weekend, got to install it all (software) yesterday and then as a final thing before I went to bed, I followed WUSY's guide and put it straight to 333x9 (3GHz) and ran 3DMark06... Got a score of about 5300 or something. Not done any research on that score yet, so not sure how good it is... Is that an OK score?
January 31, 2007 2:09:34 AM

Its me again, some of you may know I recently was building a computer on a budget.

Well I decided I was in awe of my little E4300, so I bought a second one and fitted it into a what I think was an 975X board (it was LGA775) out of what might of been an somewhat old Dell, the case was so damaged no one really knew what it was, that someone left at GeekSquad (I work at BestBuy)(it'd been there for months and when we contacted the owner, they said they did not want it).

Anyway, I took the old MOBO and got a few sticks of DDR2 (who knows what speed they were) and a few other nessecary components and went with it.

The motherboard was open air, so no case. Just the fan that came with the CPU and nothing else. Power supply was out of an HP a friend had on his shelf.

On first jump I took it to a 266 FSB, which put it right on 2.4 gigahertz. Second jump resulted in a 3 gigahertz or 333 FSB.

So then I decided to pump up the Vcore (thats right previously I had not bumped the Vcore) and go for the gold. But just then Pizza was finished and I went to pull it from the oven. My friend who gave me the RAM decided he could handle the next jump, so I left him to do it.

What happened next I did not witness, but apparently he bumped the Vcore and took it all the way to a 433 FSB! Thats 3.8 gigahertz!

Sadly, just as I finished slicing the pizza and pouring a coke, I heard what I shall forever now call "evil." I ran back into the room (spilling my coke) and lo-and-behold there was the motherboard on fire. Turns out he spilled his ice-tea on the board in glee, and made it worse by trying to pick it up and (now how did he figure this would help) pour the rest of his ice tea on it.

Well I got everything but the processor for free anyway, and since the processor was ok (we think) I sold it to him for half cost.

But it is possible to more than double the speed of the processor! He says he cannot remember what he set the Vcore to, Im certain everything was running really hot anyway, and if the board wasn't soaked in liquid death, the RAM would of exploded or something (it cannot of been good RAM).

So to sum up:
We hit very decent speeds on a stock Vcore.
Did not die when we put it at an extremely high clock speed.
975x boards work ok.
Lipton+MOBO=flamingmassofdoom
January 31, 2007 3:29:51 AM

You're trying to tell us you threw together bits and bobs of you don't know what and then used it to overclock?
January 31, 2007 4:09:04 AM

Quote:
Well, I put the system in my sig together last Friday, was away all weekend, got to install it all (software) yesterday and then as a final thing before I went to bed, I followed WUSY's guide and put it straight to 333x9 (3GHz) and ran 3DMark06... Got a score of about 5300 or something. Not done any research on that score yet, so not sure how good it is... Is that an OK score?


Well, 3dMark06 score will depend a lot on your graphics card as well, so it's hard to go off that alone. I know my score jumped up 1000pts with the overclock. I'm getting 8410 oc'd, but I have an 8800GTS. Your best bet might be to run the test without an overclock and compare it after oc'ing it.
January 31, 2007 4:58:02 AM

Liek! OMFG! STFU!

Maybe that story is true, but I'm a little like this -> 8O

As far as I know, the custom BIOS on those vanilla PCs (Dell, HP and such) don't provide for any means of adjustment beyond enabling/disabling onboard devices, so I'd be very interested to hear precisely which motherboard it was you used... Or at least exactly which machine it came out of... And not knowing what kind of RAM!?!? So do you remember which memory multiplier you used?

Wow! Your friend had flammable ice tea!?!?! You sure is wasn't a 100% a.b.v. spirit of some description?

Anyway.... was an entertaining little story! Reminds me of the time I jump-started my car using a couple overclocked AA batteries... No one ever believes me!!!!!! But it's true! Honest! It is! Really! Honest-to-goodness! I did!
January 31, 2007 5:40:59 AM

Quote:
Liek! OMFG! STFU!

Maybe that story is true, but I'm a little like this -> 8O

As far as I know, the custom BIOS on those vanilla PCs (Dell, HP and such) don't provide for any means of adjustment beyond enabling/disabling onboard devices, so I'd be very interested to hear precisely which motherboard it was you used... Or at least exactly which machine it came out of... And not knowing what kind of RAM!?!? So do you remember which memory multiplier you used?

Wow! Your friend had flammable ice tea!?!?! You sure is wasn't a 100% a.b.v. spirit of some description?

Anyway.... was an entertaining little story! Reminds me of the time I jump-started my car using a couple overclocked AA batteries... No one ever believes me!!!!!! But it's true! Honest! It is! Really! Honest-to-goodness! I did!


Lol, Im with you on this one!
January 31, 2007 6:27:45 AM

Very nice gentlemen. Would love to do so myself if I had the $$$ at the moment. So, who's got some benchies for us compared to the other chips (e64XX and e63XX)???
February 1, 2007 6:53:35 AM

So I just finished building my new system to include:

E4300
Giga 965P-S3
1 Gig Kingston 667 800mhz
XFX 7900 GS 256
**everything retail**
Plus all the normal stuff

now I haven't been around since the ole Celeron 300A days and Oc'ing it to 450....so I thought I would give this a go.

This was by far the easiest and happiest install I have ever done. (You kids have come a long way). Except for two things:

#1) That D@mn Stock Fan....I have 142 IQ and still this was tuff
#2) My monitor was apparently TOOOOOO old. >grin< Dont laugh. Y'all be old too someday


Now I have not overclocked this thing....YET. I am a little leary of doing it before I get my new cooler. (using the stock). I don't mind the stock fan or anything...just not the goo that goes on it. Wish I had the silver stuff before I put it on. Eh....oh well

Anyhow...I bought this case (when I saw this thing...I think I poo'ed from laughing so hard). BUT I LOVE THIS CASE.

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA222...

I have a freaking ceiling fan on the side of my case. Gotta love it. So anyhow the E4300 is sitting at 22C idle. Prolly cause of the ceiling fan. >grin< Anyhow when I get the new cooler....(Artic Freezer 7 pro). I'll put the goo on and the cooler and post back the Overclock.

Monk aka Spence

P.s. The case is SUPER quiet if you were wonderin
P.p.s. I just might go ahead and o'er clock it anyhow...just cause it is so happy. Plus I'll do it with all the stock stuff and voltages. I'll see if I can't get 3.0ghz. I'll post back soon...
February 1, 2007 6:55:16 AM

Oh and plus....even with that ceiling fan on the side...there is STILL enough room for a Tuniq Tower or Zalman or the Artic. Lots o room


Monk aka Spence
February 1, 2007 3:19:21 PM

Ok....been running Orthos Beta for 30 mins.

Everything is stock speeds and stock voltages
No aftermarket cooler yet and even using stock thermal stuff just that huge 25cm fan on the side that came with the case. (still whisper quiet)

e4300
Giga 965P-S3
XFX 7900 GS

@ 1.8 ghz stock and stock volts

Room @ 75deg Faren

CoreTemp Beta never saw above 45 deg Cel fully loaded
floats at about 20 deg Cel at idle

This made me feel much better about overclocking to 3.0 with stock everthing. I'll do that next and report back.


Monk
February 1, 2007 4:34:08 PM

Ok....results are in.

E4300
Giga 965P-S3
1gig Kingston 667
XFX 7900GS 256
Western Digital 250 GB 7200 16mb cache
Mwave case 500w w/ 25cm side fan & 2 80mm exhaust fans one front one back
DVD/CD burner
floppy

Purchased everything at Mwave (never had a problem with them ever)
all for $700 (everything was retail). Picked it up at will call.

Stock Cooler and stock thermal stuff (waiting for Artic Freezer 7 pro)

Overclocked it like that last guy. 3.0ghz Stock volt set manually at 1.325V at 333bus and mem set to 2.0 to run at 667

Ran Ortho

Temps:
idle = 21C
Fully loaded = 59C (max ever saw and very rarely) usually hovered at 53C
I'm sure those will go down once I put on the new cooler. But that is very good still.

This has to be by far the best bang for the buck. This thing is rock stable and running cool.

I could not be happier!
February 1, 2007 8:16:12 PM

I have Questions, currently i have a pentium D805 @3.8 GHZ now, if i was going to buy a core 2 duo e4300 or core 2 duo e6300 the differences is one it stock at 1.80GHz the latter is 1.86, is the e4300 so attractive because of its higher multiplier so it has less FSB strain when OCing? also if i bought either of these processors @ stock settings will they perform better than my D805 @ 3.8 GHz? and if they wont, how much of an over clock would i need to see better performance?
February 1, 2007 11:46:10 PM

Ok to answer some questions:
1. Yes, we through everything together from we know what not and tried to overclock. Why? We had no intention of this thing lasting very long at all. Hell we were just happy it booted. If this thing did not work we were going to wait for my cousin to throw away his old P965 and use it (but we know not when the prices will drop on the E6700).
2. Actually, in retrospect, it was not the ice tea that set it ablaze. Looking at the board (you should see it, of course, you'd have to send me a digital camera) and clearing away some char, I see that the memory pins seem to be bent... he must of poured his ice tea on it to put it out (obviously did not help)(and if so, he lied to me about how the fire started, could he of been shell shocked by a blazing MOBO?). Could be due to or the cause of the blaze, these bent pins.
3. The power supply is a 380w supply. Thats whats left of the tag anyway all I can see is "380" with part of the 0, or at least what seems to be a 0, cut off.
4. The RAM was, he thinks, out of the same computer, and PC2 4200. That means stock it would do 533.
5. The FSB:RAM was 1:1.
6. This was not a Dell. Talking with the guys at GeekSquad we found out it was actually a Dell case, but the owners had replaced the MOBO and that was probably why they could not get it to POST (and had brought it to GeekSquad). PS: It is amazing the documentation you will find when you actually look in the file cabinent. IF you ever work at BestBuy, make sure you ask them to look there BEFORE they tell you there is free parts.
February 2, 2007 1:21:43 PM

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Ok to answer some questions:
1. Yes, we through everything together from we know what not and tried to overclock. Why? We had no intention of this thing lasting very long at all. Hell we were just happy it booted. If this thing did not work we were going to wait for my cousin to throw away his old P965 and use it (but we know not when the prices will drop on the E6700).
2. Actually, in retrospect, it was not the ice tea that set it ablaze. Looking at the board (you should see it, of course, you'd have to send me a digital camera) and clearing away some char, I see that the memory pins seem to be bent... he must of poured his ice tea on it to put it out (obviously did not help)(and if so, he lied to me about how the fire started, could he of been shell shocked by a blazing MOBO?). Could be due to or the cause of the blaze, these bent pins.
3. The power supply is a 380w supply. Thats whats left of the tag anyway all I can see is "380" with part of the 0, or at least what seems to be a 0, cut off.
4. The RAM was, he thinks, out of the same computer, and PC2 4200. That means stock it would do 533.
5. The FSB:RAM was 1:1.
6. This was not a Dell. Talking with the guys at GeekSquad we found out it was actually a Dell case, but the owners had replaced the MOBO and that was probably why they could not get it to POST (and had brought it to GeekSquad). PS: It is amazing the documentation you will find when you actually look in the file cabinent. IF you ever work at BestBuy, make sure you ask them to look there BEFORE they tell you there is free parts.



i wish those were answers to my questions.
February 2, 2007 4:21:04 PM

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I have Questions, currently i have a pentium D805 @3.8 GHZ now, if i was going to buy a core 2 duo e4300 or core 2 duo e6300 the differences is one it stock at 1.80GHz the latter is 1.86, is the e4300 so attractive because of its higher multiplier so it has less FSB strain when OCing? also if i bought either of these processors @ stock settings will they perform better than my D805 @ 3.8 GHz? and if they wont, how much of an over clock would i need to see better performance?


You are right on about why the E4300 is preferred over the E6300 if you are planning on overclocking. The higher multiplier allows the E4300 to reach higher speeds with lower FSB. Now if you don't overclock then go with the E6300 because of the higher FSB and slightly higher clock rate, since they are only about $10 different in price (at the moment).

I'm not an expert, but one thing you can do is to look at the CPU charts here on Tom's Hardware and see for your self what kind of differences there will be between the 805 and the lowest core 2 duo on the chart, the E6400. Of course, it looks like you have overclocked your 805 meaning that it will perform better than the 805 on the chart, and the 6400 is at a higher clock rate than the 6300, but this may work for a rough idea of what to expect. At stock speeds the 805 is usually at the bottom of the chart (depending on what benchmark you look at), and the 6400 is somewhere near the top. Now with your overclock, I would guess that the E6300 or E4300 at stock and your overclocked 805 might be pretty much even. However, I bet that any overclock of the 6300/4300 will put them above your 805. This is just a very rough estimate, so I could be wrong, but it seems pretty reasonable given the difference in performance of these 2 processors at stock.
February 3, 2007 7:07:14 AM

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Read from some chinese discussion groups at Hong Kong.

I myself brought the P5LVM-1394 and all overclock is not success so far. Could oc to 233 but then the build-in LAN port would fail.

The P5L-MX seems overclockable for E6300(some successful cases published before) but not for E4300. Similar case on P5LVM-1394.

Sounds like you have only P4 FSB 800MHz and tested P5LVM-1394 with it.

Will you specify the URL of the source of the claim that the P5L-MX is not overclockable for E4300? (Chinese is OK.)
February 3, 2007 7:16:00 AM

I found a successful overclocking case of E4300 with ASUS P5L-MX at FSB 1300MT/s = FSB 325MHz = CPU 2.93GHz.

E4300 Overclocks? at AnandTech Forums

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i just got a 4300 setup 2 days ago
it is running happily at 2.65GHz on stock voltage
i havn't tryed to go higher yet as i don't wanna lower my ram speeds and am happy with this speed for now
also my board doesn't have vcore adjustment for some reason ... ASUS P5L-MX


i just updated my bios to the latest and pushed mine to 3.1Ghz on default voltage
tryed 350fsb but it wouldn't post right even with lower mem speeds
this looks like the limit for my chip without more vcore and/or better cooling
possibly the chipset/motherboard's limit also


i had to back down to 2.9GHz to be stable
the problem for me definately appears to be the motherboard not liking fsb speeds over 1300Mhz
if i could set the clock mult higher the cpu would almost certainly function over 3GHz stable
February 3, 2007 1:09:39 PM



Ok, I lowered my vcore to a 1.425 and this is where I am going to stay. Just like shown in the Anandtech forums. To get beyond 3.2 orthos stable I needed CRAZY voltage. So! 3.2 it is. Also running 400 x 8 did not work for me. But my memory is OC'd at this point. - G
February 5, 2007 1:11:12 PM

I had the Fry's chip (tray with combo, did'nt use the board) stable @ 345 x 9. Returned it. Ordered the retail E4300 from the egg now stable @ 375 x 9.
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