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Finally got it built. A few questions, and a big thanks.

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January 21, 2007 10:16:52 AM

First off a big thanks to those of you who helped me out with all of my dumb questions regarding the hardware for my first build. It is up and running and it completely kicks arse. Without the help and the direction it probably wouldn't have been this easy (Booted first time and have had no problems what so ever).

Here is the system components:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4 GHz LGA 775
CPU Cooler: Scythe SCINF-1000 120mm CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink
Motherboard: ASUS P5B-E LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX
PSU: OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W
GPU: XFX PV-T73G-UDE3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16
RAM: Super Talent 2GB (2x1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX2GC4
HDD (OS): Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200KS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Case: Antec Performance One P180B Black ATX Mid Tower
Optical: Pioneer 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Read Black ATAPI Model DVR-111D

**I decided to stay with my current gpu until the dx10 cards become more mainstream/needed/cheaper, but a x1950xt is looking very interesting. It would allow me to get the extra performance I want out of my 1680x1050 monitor. Still can't decide, I know Purevideo has a slight edge over AVIVO and I do use my computer for HD movies also. hummmm...ideas**

Ok finally to the questions.
1.) My cpu fan (SCINF-1000) came w/ a 3-pin power connector whereas my motherboard has a 4-pin (CPU_FAN) power connector on the motherboard. Initially I plugged my cpu fan into the 3-pin (PWR_FAN) power connector next to the 4-pin on the motherboard but I was given a warning at the startup. So looking at the pin configurations I noticed the the corresponding pins on the two connectors were identical so I now have my cpu fan plugged into the 4-pin leaving the 4th pin unused (alleviating the warning message), but here is the problem my cpu fan constantly runs ~1222 rpm. Is there away to control the fan speeds manually/automatically to get that big thing to turn slower creating less noise? I sleep less than 12 feet away from it and it sure is annoying.

2.) When installing my ram and reading the motherboard manual I couldn't for the life of me figure out which slots I needed to plug my two ram sticks into. My current configuration is Stick 1 is in Slot A1 and Stick 2 is in slot A2. Is this right or should Stick 2 be in Slot B1?

Sorry for the long post, and taking up so much of your guys time. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Once again a big thanks for making my first build go so smoothly. The tomshardware community really is a great environment for learning and help. Keep it up.
January 21, 2007 11:30:47 AM

0) For the video card, it depends on how long your wait for the mainstream DX10 card is. If it's 6 months+, I'd get an x1950xt. That's just me. I've been spoiled by maximum resolution & game settings.

1) The 4-pin should be unused for any 3-pin hsf power cable. Go into bios | power | enable q-fan | set q-fan profile to silent or manually set the speed to about half the max rpm. It may not be a good idea to slow it down when the cpu is overclocked.

http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/cpu/024/scinf1000.htm...

Noise Level: 23.5dBA
Air Flow: 46.5CFM
Speed: 1,200rpm (±10%)

2) According to the pdf manual, dual channel runs in either A/B channel. So you put 2 identical sticks in A1 & A2, the slots closest to the cpu. If it won't do DC, try B1 & B2.
January 21, 2007 11:33:42 AM

1. plug the CPU fan into the 4-pin, leaving the 4th pin. I don't know about Intel board, but in my board, go to BIOS, Power Management, and disable Cool N Quiet or something similar, that will make the fan run at full speed. Any speed in between would require a fan controller =/ But your current setting would allow the fan to spin faster as the CPU heats up though


2. According to what I see on your mobo, you should insert them in the yellow DIMM slots.



But does it make any difference if you insert them into the black DIMM slots if you have 2 sticks of RAM??? I need to know this also :?
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January 21, 2007 5:03:58 PM

Quote:
0) For the video card, it depends on how long your wait for the mainstream DX10 card is. If it's 6 months+, I'd get an x1950xt. That's just me. I've been spoiled by maximum resolution & game settings.

1) The 4-pin should be unused for any 3-pin hsf power cable. Go into bios | power | enable q-fan | set q-fan profile to silent or manually set the speed to about half the max rpm. It may not be a good idea to slow it down when the cpu is overclocked.

http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/cpu/024/scinf1000.htm...

Noise Level: 23.5dBA
Air Flow: 46.5CFM
Speed: 1,200rpm (±10%)

2) According to the pdf manual, dual channel runs in either A/B channel. So you put 2 identical sticks in A1 & A2, the slots closest to the cpu. If it won't do DC, try B1 & B2.



First off thanks for the replies guys.

What are the safe operating temperature zones for the C2Ds? My rooms temperature varies greatly throughout the day. I have seen my CPU temps run as low as 31 degrees C to upwards of 45.

Also if I do use the 3-pin power connector instead of the 4-pin what do I do w/ the warning message? Just ignore it?

How do I know if my RAM is doing dual channel?

Thanks a ton guys. Just a little more tinkering and it should be perfect.
Next I just need to work on some cable management. It is a mess in there.
January 21, 2007 5:14:34 PM

http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

When the pc reboots or powers on, the post will say dual channel or not for a split second. If you enable system password in bios, the post will stay until you enter the password.

Another way is use software. Either one listed above will tell you. Click Memory tab in CPUZ.

Your temps are fine.

Where does the warning show? What does it say?
January 21, 2007 5:43:15 PM

Quote:
http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

When the pc reboots or powers on, the post will say dual channel or not for a split second. If you enable system password in bios, the post will stay until you enter the password.

Another way is use software. Either one listed above will tell you. Click Memory tab in CPUZ.

Your temps are fine.

Where does the warning show? What does it say?


Ahh yes CPUZ, which I completely forgot about. My memory (w/ both A slots filled) is running single channel.

The error message (haven't seen if for a few days) is to the extend like cpu fan not plugged in.

**Edited Part** The error message is "CPU fan error Press F1 to continue"

Will be powering down to fix the ram settings and will let you know then exactly what the error message says.

Thanks for the speedy response.
January 21, 2007 8:56:09 PM

That fan warning doesn't look good. Are you sure the fan cable isn't plugged in the opposite way? There's a tiny locking mechanism. Once in place, you can't pull it out easily.

http://resources.vr-zone.com/yantronic/gigabyte965/sysf...
http://www.vulgarisation-informatique.com/images/CPU_fa...

On page 2-10 of the manual, look at the cpu fan connector diagram:

GND = BLACK
CPU FAN PWR = RED
CPU FAN IN = YELLOW/WHITE
CPU FAN PWR = UNUSED

Make sure the colors of the wires match these.

FWIW, if the cpu fan spins slower than the bios default, the bios may warn you about the cpu fan. One of my old rig was like that: power on; cpu fan not spinning at all; cpu fan spins up after a few seconds.

I apologize. The manual is confusing. From this review, DC runs in either yellow or black slots.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/asus...

Try yellow slots first. If no luck, then black ones.
January 21, 2007 9:16:33 PM

RAM question is under wraps, I plugged into corresponding colors. Stick 1 in Slot A1 & Stick 2 in Slot B1. Now it is running in dual channel configuration.

I just plugged my CPU cooler fan into the 4-pin power connector to get rid of the error. The pin configuration for the first 3 pins is identical. I will look around to see if it is possible to find a fan controller for it. It sure would be nice to have it run silent when it isn't doing much over night.

Thank you very much for helping me out with all of your quick responses.

Also if you could point me to some place where I can read up on the temperature ranges for the C2D line of processors. Using the AI Booster program that comes with my motherboard I used it to clock my E6600 @ 2.4 GHz to 3.0 GHz w/ only changing the CPU frequency. I am going to look at the posts here on tomshardware to learn about proper overclocking, but just wanted to toy around w/ it for a bit.

Again thanks a bunch.
January 21, 2007 10:59:57 PM

You're welcome.

Good thing you got the ram working as DC.

Fan controller? Google Fanmate 2 by Zalman.

There are 2 kinds of overclocking: static & dynamic. Static means fixed overclocking settings in bios while dynamic means some overclocking Windows software changing various values in bios to keep it stable at a higher speed. ASUS AI Booster & Gigabyte EasyTune are examples of dyamic overclocking. Purists prefer static & say dynamic stresses the hardware.

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Core2Duo-Overcl...

There's an overclocking forum here. List your specs in your signature. Ask them.
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