basic Group policy questions

Mike

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Hello,

I have been messing around with group policy a little, and have a few basic
questions.

First, I have created a new OU wiht an attached GP. Do I need the users to
be in this container to apply the group policy to them, or can I just have a
security/distribution group in the OU with members from the Users OU.

Second, If I assign a user to an OU will only the user config apply from the
GP, or will the computer config apply to whatever computer the user is
logged onto also. I am having trouble applying the computer config unless I
add the computer object into the OU.

Mike
 
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A GPO consists of a Computer portion and a User portion,
each with many policies.
A GPO linked to an OU will apply User settings to User
account objects in that OU, and will apply Computer settings
to computer objects in that OU.
Placing a security group into the OU has no effect on the
procession of GPO.
The above application of computer and user settings can be
modified by the use of loopback processing so that the
computer portion may be applied when triggered by a user
object being subjected to the GPO.
Also, the above computer and user settings application can
be restricted to only some of the computer or the user objects
in the OU by use of a security group to filter to what objects
the GPO is applied, but in this case those objects still need
to be placed within the scope of the GPO's management.

--
Roger Abell
Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
"Mike" <mrfaber@att.net> wrote in message
news:%23P5bOcuqEHA.3728@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I have been messing around with group policy a little, and have a few
basic
> questions.
>
> First, I have created a new OU wiht an attached GP. Do I need the users
to
> be in this container to apply the group policy to them, or can I just have
a
> security/distribution group in the OU with members from the Users OU.
>
> Second, If I assign a user to an OU will only the user config apply from
the
> GP, or will the computer config apply to whatever computer the user is
> logged onto also. I am having trouble applying the computer config unless
I
> add the computer object into the OU.
>
> Mike
>
>
 

Mike

Splendid
Apr 1, 2004
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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.group_policy,microsoft.public.windows.group_policy (More info?)

Thank you for the response.

You mentioned that placing a security group into the OU has no effect on the
procession of GPO. What about distribution groups? Can I assign
users/computers to a distribution group that is in the OU even if the actual
user object is not in the OU? Also, where is the loopback processing policy
located? Does loopback processing allow a computer to trigger the user
config also?

Mike

"Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
news:%23oBiOjuqEHA.3700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>A GPO consists of a Computer portion and a User portion,
> each with many policies.
> A GPO linked to an OU will apply User settings to User
> account objects in that OU, and will apply Computer settings
> to computer objects in that OU.
> Placing a security group into the OU has no effect on the
> procession of GPO.
> The above application of computer and user settings can be
> modified by the use of loopback processing so that the
> computer portion may be applied when triggered by a user
> object being subjected to the GPO.
> Also, the above computer and user settings application can
> be restricted to only some of the computer or the user objects
> in the OU by use of a security group to filter to what objects
> the GPO is applied, but in this case those objects still need
> to be placed within the scope of the GPO's management.
>
> --
> Roger Abell
> Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
> "Mike" <mrfaber@att.net> wrote in message
> news:%23P5bOcuqEHA.3728@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have been messing around with group policy a little, and have a few
> basic
>> questions.
>>
>> First, I have created a new OU wiht an attached GP. Do I need the users
> to
>> be in this container to apply the group policy to them, or can I just
>> have
> a
>> security/distribution group in the OU with members from the Users OU.
>>
>> Second, If I assign a user to an OU will only the user config apply from
> the
>> GP, or will the computer config apply to whatever computer the user is
>> logged onto also. I am having trouble applying the computer config
>> unless
> I
>> add the computer object into the OU.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>
 
G

Guest

Guest
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The only role of groups for triggering GPO application
is security group filtering, which is the use of the group
to grant read and apply permissions to the GPO.
A group in an OU never has any meaning relative to
application of GPO.
I was imprecise in the mention of loopback processing.
In a GPO's computer section, under Group Policy (dig in)
you will find policy to enable loopback processing. When
enabled, and GPO is linked to OU containing the computer
object (so computer section is applied), then if the user
that is logging in is a member of a group granted read and
apply (or is granted directly) then the User section will be
processed even though the user object is not within the OU.
--
Roger
"Mike" <mrfaber@att.net> wrote in message
news:ubJfPnuqEHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for the response.
>
> You mentioned that placing a security group into the OU has no effect on
the
> procession of GPO. What about distribution groups? Can I assign
> users/computers to a distribution group that is in the OU even if the
actual
> user object is not in the OU? Also, where is the loopback processing
policy
> located? Does loopback processing allow a computer to trigger the user
> config also?
>
> Mike
>
> "Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
> news:%23oBiOjuqEHA.3700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >A GPO consists of a Computer portion and a User portion,
> > each with many policies.
> > A GPO linked to an OU will apply User settings to User
> > account objects in that OU, and will apply Computer settings
> > to computer objects in that OU.
> > Placing a security group into the OU has no effect on the
> > procession of GPO.
> > The above application of computer and user settings can be
> > modified by the use of loopback processing so that the
> > computer portion may be applied when triggered by a user
> > object being subjected to the GPO.
> > Also, the above computer and user settings application can
> > be restricted to only some of the computer or the user objects
> > in the OU by use of a security group to filter to what objects
> > the GPO is applied, but in this case those objects still need
> > to be placed within the scope of the GPO's management.
> >
> > --
> > Roger Abell
> > Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
> > "Mike" <mrfaber@att.net> wrote in message
> > news:%23P5bOcuqEHA.3728@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I have been messing around with group policy a little, and have a few
> > basic
> >> questions.
> >>
> >> First, I have created a new OU wiht an attached GP. Do I need the
users
> > to
> >> be in this container to apply the group policy to them, or can I just
> >> have
> > a
> >> security/distribution group in the OU with members from the Users OU.
> >>
> >> Second, If I assign a user to an OU will only the user config apply
from
> > the
> >> GP, or will the computer config apply to whatever computer the user is
> >> logged onto also. I am having trouble applying the computer config
> >> unless
> > I
> >> add the computer object into the OU.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 

Mike

Splendid
Apr 1, 2004
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0
22,780
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.group_policy,microsoft.public.windows.group_policy (More info?)

Thank you, you have been a great help.

Mike

"Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
news:eDLPxS3qEHA.2948@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> The only role of groups for triggering GPO application
> is security group filtering, which is the use of the group
> to grant read and apply permissions to the GPO.
> A group in an OU never has any meaning relative to
> application of GPO.
> I was imprecise in the mention of loopback processing.
> In a GPO's computer section, under Group Policy (dig in)
> you will find policy to enable loopback processing. When
> enabled, and GPO is linked to OU containing the computer
> object (so computer section is applied), then if the user
> that is logging in is a member of a group granted read and
> apply (or is granted directly) then the User section will be
> processed even though the user object is not within the OU.
> --
> Roger
> "Mike" <mrfaber@att.net> wrote in message
> news:ubJfPnuqEHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you for the response.
>>
>> You mentioned that placing a security group into the OU has no effect on
> the
>> procession of GPO. What about distribution groups? Can I assign
>> users/computers to a distribution group that is in the OU even if the
> actual
>> user object is not in the OU? Also, where is the loopback processing
> policy
>> located? Does loopback processing allow a computer to trigger the user
>> config also?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> "Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:%23oBiOjuqEHA.3700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> >A GPO consists of a Computer portion and a User portion,
>> > each with many policies.
>> > A GPO linked to an OU will apply User settings to User
>> > account objects in that OU, and will apply Computer settings
>> > to computer objects in that OU.
>> > Placing a security group into the OU has no effect on the
>> > procession of GPO.
>> > The above application of computer and user settings can be
>> > modified by the use of loopback processing so that the
>> > computer portion may be applied when triggered by a user
>> > object being subjected to the GPO.
>> > Also, the above computer and user settings application can
>> > be restricted to only some of the computer or the user objects
>> > in the OU by use of a security group to filter to what objects
>> > the GPO is applied, but in this case those objects still need
>> > to be placed within the scope of the GPO's management.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Roger Abell
>> > Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
>> > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
>> > "Mike" <mrfaber@att.net> wrote in message
>> > news:%23P5bOcuqEHA.3728@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I have been messing around with group policy a little, and have a few
>> > basic
>> >> questions.
>> >>
>> >> First, I have created a new OU wiht an attached GP. Do I need the
> users
>> > to
>> >> be in this container to apply the group policy to them, or can I just
>> >> have
>> > a
>> >> security/distribution group in the OU with members from the Users OU.
>> >>
>> >> Second, If I assign a user to an OU will only the user config apply
> from
>> > the
>> >> GP, or will the computer config apply to whatever computer the user is
>> >> logged onto also. I am having trouble applying the computer config
>> >> unless
>> > I
>> >> add the computer object into the OU.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>