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I have some questions about the Toshiba 51HX93, Toshiba's top 51" HDTV
with built in 8VSB and QAM tuners.
1) Does this model have HDCP compliance?
2) I read that on some cable systems HDTV signals are sent in the
clear. This means that if you already have basic analogue cable you
can pick up the digital signals for free without renting a conversion
box if your HDTV has the QAM tuner. The 51HX93 does have a QAM tuner.
I have Comcast analogue cable right now. You you think I have a shot
at picking up local HDTV stations through cable without paying them
$8. a month to rent their HDTV box? I am concerned about just getting
my free local stations, not HBO, etc.
3) I can get the 51HX93 right now at a good price. Is there any
reason to wait for the 51HX94, which comes out in August?
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In article <e93fecf5.0405220828.1c159d43@posting.google.com>,
calderhome@yahoo.com (Christopher Calder) wrote:
> I have some questions about the Toshiba 51HX93, Toshiba's top 51" HDTV
> with built in 8VSB and QAM tuners.
>
> 1) Does this model have HDCP compliance?
>
> 2) I read that on some cable systems HDTV signals are sent in the
> clear. This means that if you already have basic analogue cable you
> can pick up the digital signals for free without renting a conversion
> box if your HDTV has the QAM tuner. The 51HX93 does have a QAM tuner.
> I have Comcast analogue cable right now. You you think I have a shot
> at picking up local HDTV stations through cable without paying them
> $8. a month to rent their HDTV box? I am concerned about just getting
> my free local stations, not HBO, etc.
>
> 3) I can get the 51HX93 right now at a good price. Is there any
> reason to wait for the 51HX94, which comes out in August?
>
> http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televi [...] del=51hx93 >
> Christopher
May I ask a fairly related question? What are the differences between
the Toshiba 51HX93 and the 51H93? The latter is on sale at Fry's
Electronics here in the SF Bay Area through Tuesday at $1,397...which
seems to be a whole lot less than elsewhere...
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csmith <csmith@nothere.org> wrote in message news:<csmith-A0BD6E.09394922052004@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>...
> In article <e93fecf5.0405220828.1c159d43@posting.google.com>,
> calderhome@yahoo.com (Christopher Calder) wrote:
>
> > I have some questions about the Toshiba 51HX93, Toshiba's top 51" HDTV
> > with built in 8VSB and QAM tuners.
> >
> > 1) Does this model have HDCP compliance?
> >
> > 2) I read that on some cable systems HDTV signals are sent in the
> > clear. This means that if you already have basic analogue cable you
> > can pick up the digital signals for free without renting a conversion
> > box if your HDTV has the QAM tuner. The 51HX93 does have a QAM tuner.
> > I have Comcast analogue cable right now. You you think I have a shot
> > at picking up local HDTV stations through cable without paying them
> > $8. a month to rent their HDTV box? I am concerned about just getting
> > my free local stations, not HBO, etc.
> >
> > 3) I can get the 51HX93 right now at a good price. Is there any
> > reason to wait for the 51HX94, which comes out in August?
> >
> > http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televi [...] del=51hx93 > >
> > Christopher
>
>
> May I ask a fairly related question? What are the differences between
> the Toshiba 51HX93 and the 51H93? The latter is on sale at Fry's
> Electronics here in the SF Bay Area through Tuesday at $1,397...which
> seems to be a whole lot less than elsewhere...
>
> Reasons I should be warned off?
>
> Thanks!
>
> C. Smith
----------------
Video Only sells the 51HX93 for $1,799. I suppose the 51H93 uses
cheaper lenses. The price you quote sounds very good regarless. The
original MFSRP of your model is $2,699.99 vs $2999.99 for the HX
model. But I am here to ask questions, not answer them. I have never
owned one so I want someone with experience to answer my questions.
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Aside from the slight cosmetic changes in the outside casing of the
TV, the 51H93 and 51HX93 have all the same features (3:2 pulldown,
TouchFocus- auto convergence, IR net, etc...) the primary difference
is in the lens and CRT technology. These two components combine to
give you picture quality.
Toshiba's HX line (aka Cinema sereis) is their top of the line. HX is
considered in the top 3 for performance/picture quality and ranked #1
by Consumer Reports (not sure that holds much water).
I would own a Toshiba HX, I would not buy Toshiba's lesser H series.
It's not that the H series is bad, it's just not a top performner and
if you put the two side by side while viewing HD content or a DVD
you'd probably agree that it's worth the extra bit.
calderhome@yahoo.com (Christopher Calder) wrote in message
> ----------------
> Video Only sells the 51HX93 for $1,799. I suppose the 51H93 uses
> cheaper lenses. The price you quote sounds very good regarless. The
> original MFSRP of your model is $2,699.99 vs $2999.99 for the HX
> model. But I am here to ask questions, not answer them. I have never
> owned one so I want someone with experience to answer my questions.
>
> Christopher Calder
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I concur (I own an HX).
I would like to add that I feel the same way about Mits. The Silver line
isn't as impressive as the Gold Plus that I looked at.
RichieP
"JamesMason" <jmason@funnydelight.co.uk> wrote in message
news4e30081.0405230814.634df6ba@posting.google.com...
> Aside from the slight cosmetic changes in the outside casing of the
> TV, the 51H93 and 51HX93 have all the same features (3:2 pulldown,
> TouchFocus- auto convergence, IR net, etc...) the primary difference
> is in the lens and CRT technology. These two components combine to
> give you picture quality.
>
> Toshiba's HX line (aka Cinema sereis) is their top of the line. HX is
> considered in the top 3 for performance/picture quality and ranked #1
> by Consumer Reports (not sure that holds much water).
>
> I would own a Toshiba HX, I would not buy Toshiba's lesser H series.
> It's not that the H series is bad, it's just not a top performner and
> if you put the two side by side while viewing HD content or a DVD
> you'd probably agree that it's worth the extra bit.
>
>
>
>
>
> calderhome@yahoo.com (Christopher Calder) wrote in message
> > ----------------
> > Video Only sells the 51HX93 for $1,799. I suppose the 51H93 uses
> > cheaper lenses. The price you quote sounds very good regarless. The
> > original MFSRP of your model is $2,699.99 vs $2999.99 for the HX
> > model. But I am here to ask questions, not answer them. I have never
> > owned one so I want someone with experience to answer my questions.
> >
> > Christopher Calder
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In article <Akqsc.37681$KO2.14878@fe2.texas.rr.com>,
"RichieP" <rpadinDELETETHIS@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> I concur (I own an HX).
>
> I would like to add that I feel the same way about Mits. The Silver line
> isn't as impressive as the Gold Plus that I looked at.
>
> RichieP
>
>
> "JamesMason" <jmason@funnydelight.co.uk> wrote in message
> news4e30081.0405230814.634df6ba@posting.google.com...
> > Aside from the slight cosmetic changes in the outside casing of the
> > TV, the 51H93 and 51HX93 have all the same features (3:2 pulldown,
> > TouchFocus- auto convergence, IR net, etc...) the primary difference
> > is in the lens and CRT technology. These two components combine to
> > give you picture quality.
> >
> > Toshiba's HX line (aka Cinema sereis) is their top of the line. HX is
> > considered in the top 3 for performance/picture quality and ranked #1
> > by Consumer Reports (not sure that holds much water).
> >
> > I would own a Toshiba HX, I would not buy Toshiba's lesser H series.
> > It's not that the H series is bad, it's just not a top performner and
> > if you put the two side by side while viewing HD content or a DVD
> > you'd probably agree that it's worth the extra bit.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > calderhome@yahoo.com (Christopher Calder) wrote in message
> > > ----------------
> > > Video Only sells the 51HX93 for $1,799. I suppose the 51H93 uses
> > > cheaper lenses. The price you quote sounds very good regarless. The
> > > original MFSRP of your model is $2,699.99 vs $2999.99 for the HX
> > > model. But I am here to ask questions, not answer them. I have never
> > > owned one so I want someone with experience to answer my questions.
> > >
> > > Christopher Calder
Thanks to both of you. I think I shall hold off until the new models
come out later in the Summer. if nothing else, the old models should be
reduced in price in order to get them out the door.
BTW: Went to compare at Best Buy and found that they carrying the
Toshiba 51H83, not the 51H93 or 51HX93.
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Toshiba will not let BB carry the Cinema series. Although I thought BB had
the H93 for $2499.99, maybe just not at your particular store.
Scott
"csmith" <csmith@nothere.org> wrote in message
news:csmith-992E05.10573424052004@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
> In article <Akqsc.37681$KO2.14878@fe2.texas.rr.com>,
> "RichieP" <rpadinDELETETHIS@satx.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > I concur (I own an HX).
> >
> > I would like to add that I feel the same way about Mits. The Silver
line
> > isn't as impressive as the Gold Plus that I looked at.
> >
> > RichieP
> >
> >
> > "JamesMason" <jmason@funnydelight.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news4e30081.0405230814.634df6ba@posting.google.com...
> > > Aside from the slight cosmetic changes in the outside casing of the
> > > TV, the 51H93 and 51HX93 have all the same features (3:2 pulldown,
> > > TouchFocus- auto convergence, IR net, etc...) the primary difference
> > > is in the lens and CRT technology. These two components combine to
> > > give you picture quality.
> > >
> > > Toshiba's HX line (aka Cinema sereis) is their top of the line. HX is
> > > considered in the top 3 for performance/picture quality and ranked #1
> > > by Consumer Reports (not sure that holds much water).
> > >
> > > I would own a Toshiba HX, I would not buy Toshiba's lesser H series.
> > > It's not that the H series is bad, it's just not a top performner and
> > > if you put the two side by side while viewing HD content or a DVD
> > > you'd probably agree that it's worth the extra bit.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > calderhome@yahoo.com (Christopher Calder) wrote in message
> > > > ----------------
> > > > Video Only sells the 51HX93 for $1,799. I suppose the 51H93 uses
> > > > cheaper lenses. The price you quote sounds very good regarless.
The
> > > > original MFSRP of your model is $2,699.99 vs $2999.99 for the HX
> > > > model. But I am here to ask questions, not answer them. I have
never
> > > > owned one so I want someone with experience to answer my questions.
> > > >
> > > > Christopher Calder
>
> Thanks to both of you. I think I shall hold off until the new models
> come out later in the Summer. if nothing else, the old models should be
> reduced in price in order to get them out the door.
>
> BTW: Went to compare at Best Buy and found that they carrying the
> Toshiba 51H83, not the 51H93 or 51HX93.
>
> C. Smith
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Just bought the 51H93 at Fry's (Phoenix, AZ) while
on sale for $1397. It replaced a 10 year old Pioneer
50 inch TV, $2200. Price was an important factor for me as
I'm now retired. I have an outside antenna connected to one
of the RF inputs and Cox Cable to the other. No cable box.
The picture is really superb and the sound is so good I
don't need to connect the TV to my stereo system. When I want
to watch HDTV I switch to my outside antenna but the cable
channels look much better too.
Ronbot
> > Christopher
>
>
> May I ask a fairly related question? What are the differences between
> the Toshiba 51HX93 and the 51H93? The latter is on sale at Fry's
> Electronics here in the SF Bay Area through Tuesday at $1,397...which
> seems to be a whole lot less than elsewhere...
>
> Reasons I should be warned off?
>
> Thanks!
>
> C. Smith
>
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