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I completely agree with the suggestion to add additional physical memory if
the page file is so large.
The performance increase is unmistakable.
However, not all users, in all parts of the world, can do so easily, for
financial or supply reasons.
If the choice is between using a large page file, even if performance is
dismal, to use the application successfully, or limiting page file size
unnecessarily, and crashing the system, which will most users choose?
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"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> wrote in message
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> I agree. Let the system manage the pagefile.
>
> --
> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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> "BBUNNY" <bbunny@bqik.net> wrote in message
> news:%23EgjDHFFFHA.3648@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >>> "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:%23%23aCXa7EFHA.2564@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >>>> I beg to differ. If the installed memory is small, and the executing
> >>>> apps
> >>>> demand such memory space, and the page file cannot enlarge to meet
the
> >>>> demand, the system will crash.
> >>>> I am happy to be corrected if wrong, but that is my understanding.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
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> >>>> "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:OIVTmh5EFHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >>>>> Jack
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You should not need a 2 gb pagefile. That's way over the top!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>> FCA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Stourport, Worcs, England
> >>>>> Enquire, plan and execute.
> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in
> >>>>> message
> >>>>> news:eEHqUB3EFHA.3732@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>> Only following up the very fine advice previously state here: your
> >>>>>> first choice of 2 GB for the OS partition ignored the need of 2 GB
for
> >>>>>> the page file alone. Therefore, the need for a much larger
partition, to
> >>>>>> run XP, as Alex Nichol stated.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I concur with the requests / suggestions to use a partition manager
to
> >>>>>> resize the OS partition. This avoids the OS reinstallation.
> >>>>>> BootIT will do it. Just use the floppies to resize, and don't
install
> >>>>>> BootIt on the HD, to avoid installing the boot manager also, if you
> >>>>>> so choose.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
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> >>>>>> "bbbrain" <bbbrain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:E03D3590-C112-4E48-A8BB-3B5AB1ED7BBD@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>>> I get a message that I am dangerously low on memory and that I
> >>>>>>> should
> >>>>>> delete
> >>>>>>> unecessary files. I have tried but can't seem to delete anymore.
> >>>>>>> And am
> >>>>>> not
> >>>>>>> sure what might happen even if I do.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> After reading Instructions on setting up XP, I created a boot
> >>>>>>> partition
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>> 2.0 GB -- the advice being that windows was about 600MB and that
> >>>>>>> should be
> >>>>>>> sufficient. Windows folder is now 1.73 GB (I assume because of
> >>>>>>> upgrades)and other untransferable folders make up over 200MB. The
> >>>>>>> harddrive has
> >>>>>>> over
> >>>>>> 25
> >>>>>>> GB free in the data partition and over 5 GB unallocated space. I
> >>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>> backup the whole boot partition - I assume because I don't have
> >>>>>>> enough
> >>>>>>> memory. I also can't backup the whole data partition either. The
> >>>>>>> boot
> >>>>>> floppy
> >>>>>>> doesn't have everything either. I have decided I need to
> >>>>>>> reinstall
> >>>>>>> XP
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> just take my losses, resize the boot partition.
> >>>>>>> Help....
> >
> > Gerry Cornell wrote:
> >>> Jack
> >>>
> >>> Whilst we do not know what is the installed RAM memory in this case
the
> >>> amount to produce a 2 gb page for a normal user would need to be well
> >>> below the recommended minimum. The solution would be to add RAM
memory,
> >>> subject to any motherboard limitations. If the page was 2 gb then that
> >>> is unacceptable and one should be looking to reduce it's size not
> >>> suggesting a larger hard disk / partition to accommodate it!
> >
> > 1GB memory, 120GB HDD. Windows chose to make a page file of 1536 min
3072
> > max.
> > I am seeing this a a viable solution to a page file and no reason to
> > change
> > it. My Linux
> > box with about the same hardware uses a 1.7 swap file. These arguments
> > about the page
> > file are mostly moot.
> >
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